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Steve Tinetti
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p.1 #1 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Kind of pricey, but they look kinda cool. Anyone here using RPG Keys for editing in LR or PS? If so, what are the pros and cons?


Oct 29, 2010 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #2 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Since I started using RPG Keys, my workflow has been cut in half. I highly recommend them. Also, there's a great sale going on right now.

http://www.rpgkeys.com/PPE_EVENT.jpg

I have the small/mini keypad which is enough for me, but if you do some heavy work you may want a regular sized keypad. I think they also make your keyboard pretend to be the keys now, too.



Oct 29, 2010 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · RPG Keys Anyone?


A friend uses them and also swears by them - says he can cull and edit a wedding now in 4 hours. Sweet bejeezuz don't that sound sweet!


Oct 29, 2010 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #4 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Seems like a neat idea, and I've seen it used in video by another photog; but that's a pretty steep price for a keypad and hotkey software.

Personally, I think it's main strong point of use would be in the studio environment where lighting is much more controlled. Things could really fly in that environment; but for weddings, I don't think it'd be all that much of an improvement.

Honestly, watching the official demo video, I work pretty much just as fast with a mouse as the guy in the video. (maybe a tad slower, of course) Virtual copies are definitely faster with the RPG from what I can see, but I can process and "x-out" just as fast with a mouse and keyboard.

It's just a matter of knowing your hotkeys. Just having you hands on ready for copy, paste, left, right and X moves you just as fast. I've pretty much trained myself to where my mouse needs to be and where my left hand commands all are.

Maybe one day when I'm shooting two-plus weddings a weekend, I could see or justify for the small improvement in speed, but that's a lot of money for minor key-binding IMO.

This is a hell of a lot cheaper: http://www.kbcovers.com/servlet/Detail?no=261

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Oct 29, 2010 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #5 · RPG Keys Anyone?


You can get the actual product from the manufacturer here: http://www.xkeys.com/xkeys.php

$170 vs $590-790. You're paying a $600 premium just for premade stickers for the keys and action template. I set up my XKeys unit in under an hour to my liking, so it definitely wasn't worth the markup for me.



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:04 PM
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p.1 #6 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Mitch W wrote:
A friend uses them and also swears by them - says he can cull and edit a wedding now in 4 hours. Sweet bejeezuz don't that sound sweet!


I regularly cull/edit my weddings in about 2.5 hours, without the aide of specialized tools like RPG.

I think it would be a great tool, but honestly I have really hard time stomaching a $600 keyboard with software.



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:05 PM
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Ryan Britton wrote:
You can get the actual product from the manufacturer here: http://www.xkeys.com/xkeys.php

$170 vs $590-790. You're paying a $600 premium just for premade stickers for the keys and action template. I set up my XKeys unit in under an hour to my liking, so it definitely wasn't worth the markup for me.


Please elaborate, I and others want more info



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #8 · RPG Keys Anyone?


sboerup wrote:
I regularly cull/edit my weddings in about 2.5 hours, without the aide of specialized tools like RPG.

I think it would be a great tool, but honestly I have really hard time stomaching a $600 keyboard with software.


You can't see me but I am bowing down to you as a God right now! Yeah, agree that it's not just the tools but also your methodology. It's something I need to work on.



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #9 · RPG Keys Anyone?


sboerup wrote:
Please elaborate, I and others want more info


Hell yea... I'd drop $170 for it if I could program it myself.



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:13 PM
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p.1 #10 · RPG Keys Anyone?


I know you Pros don't mind spending come cash to save some time but this seems kind of excessive to me, too. As a comparison, check out this Logitech game board for $67:

Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard

And before you poo-poo it as for gamers, take a look at this video:

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Using G13 for Lightroom



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:14 PM
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p.1 #11 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Folks, this is Tim from RPG. This person is dead wrong about the xkey. We use this as a shell but the programming is a $40k investment over the standard xkey functions. Feel free to email me questions at: [email protected]


Oct 29, 2010 at 06:15 PM
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RPGKEYS wrote:
Folks, this is Tim from RPG. This person is dead wrong about the xkey. We use this as a shell but the programming is a $40k investment over the standard xkey functions. Feel free to email me questions at: [email protected]


That was a quick response



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #13 · RPG Keys Anyone?


sboerup wrote:
Please elaborate, I and others want more info


It's really easy. For PCs they publish their own controller program and for Mac there's a program they're partnered with called ControllerMate. The info below is based on ControllerMate since that's what I'm familiar with, but I imagine the PC side is similar.

To set it up, you just hit the key you want on the keyboard and it lights up in the software. Drag that to the grid, then drag the actions you want it to perform.

Screenshots:

One of my setups:
http://britton-photography.com/fm/xkeys1.jpg


Some of the action options:
http://britton-photography.com/fm/xkeys2.jpg


A very useful AppleScript template for Photoshop so you don't have to bind everything to F-keys:

tell application "Adobe Photoshop CS5"
do action "Action Name" from "Set Name"
end tell




Oct 29, 2010 at 06:19 PM
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p.1 #14 · RPG Keys Anyone?


RPGKEYS wrote:
Folks, this is Tim from RPG. This person is dead wrong about the xkey. We use this as a shell but the programming is a $40k investment over the standard xkey functions. Feel free to email me questions at: [email protected]


I think the point was that it can be simplified, and for a lot cheaper. $600 is a bit much.

Eyeball wrote:
I know you Pros don't mind spending come cash to save some time but this seems kind of excessive to me, too. As a comparison, check out this Logitech game board for $67:

Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard

And before you poo-poo it as for gamers, take a look at this video:

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Using G13 for Lightroom


I like the look of this even better. It would work with my games at the same time. I shall be digging a little deeper into what kind of monster I can create for around $70.



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:24 PM
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p.1 #15 · RPG Keys Anyone?


try Belink NE52te price range of 50-70 bucks.

http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=390404



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #16 · RPG Keys Anyone?


The youtube video of the guy with the Logitech keyboard, him navigating through the "WB-> saturation" can already be done on your keyboard. It's just slow and clunky. Unless you can program individual keys (on a separate keyboard) like the RPG keys, then it doesn't seem useful.


Oct 29, 2010 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #17 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Yea, I gotta dig deeper into hotkeys tonight. I usually just mouse-over the setting I want to change and use the <- -> for everything. It's been plenty fast, but having it set to a single key on the G-13 would be nice.


Oct 29, 2010 at 06:37 PM
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p.1 #18 · RPG Keys Anyone?


All the best to all of you.
Our system is 100% different than the solutions mentioned here


Wishing you all the best. Happy editing!

Tim



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:41 PM
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p.1 #19 · RPG Keys Anyone?


Also: Our system is "plug n play" right put of the box.

Try it for a month and return it for a full refund if your not a fan



Oct 29, 2010 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #20 · RPG Keys Anyone?


I'm pretty quick as is, but I would be interested if only for 1 touch presets. Still a bit too much if that's the only function I'd like... But it looks awesome.


Oct 29, 2010 at 06:49 PM
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