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dwweiche
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p.5 #1 · New lenses


wickerprints wrote:
Why did they even make a 70-300/4-5.6L IS? That confuses the hell out of me and I never would have expected such a move. And for $1500? You'd be better off with the 100-400, or a 70-200, or both.


My guesses, and only Canon knows for sure, is that the current non-L 70-300 IS lens is one of their top sellers. Now, they create a "premium" version they can charge more for and people will go for it. Almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because they charge more, it must be better, a-la a BMW...

For my shooting, the 100-400 is still a better choice. But for those people who may want something a bit lighter, and/or wider, and/or want 4-stop IS instead of the 2-stop in the 100-400, for a couple hundred less than the 100-400L (which is where I'm guessing it will settle to), the new 70-300L might be the ticket. I hope the 70-300 is good optically, even though it's not for me.

But, in the end, they really made it because they believe it will bring in a nice profit margin



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:34 AM
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p.5 #2 · New lenses


swnow wrote:
every canon shooter should have a 428 II
never seen this before

http://www.usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/images/cameras/lenses/EF400_LISIIU/sampleimg/mtf.jpg


Me neither.
The 300/2.8 used to have the best MTF but 400/2.8 is setting a new record.



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:36 AM
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p.5 #3 · New lenses


Jeeze, this thread is updating faster than we can type up a response!


Aug 26, 2010 at 12:37 AM
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p.5 #4 · New lenses


Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the 70-300, but I could give up the extra 100mm on the long end and gain an extra stop or more throughout the entire FL AND save some coin ($500ish). Use that to buy the OG 300mm f/4.


Aug 26, 2010 at 12:37 AM
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p.5 #5 · New lenses


RazorTM wrote:
Yes, but this new lens is an L and on par with the 28-300 and 100-400, which I did not even consider purchasing because I can't stand the push-pull zooming. I'm more interested in this new 70-300L.


The last 70-300 IS to come out has L-like optical qualities. It's no surprise the L version isn't push pull.



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:37 AM
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Well if they do indeed price this lens at $11K, I know why they are: because with a published MTF like that, there's really nowhere else to go in terms of sharpness. They certainly can't publish an MTF that is just equal to 1 across the entire image height, because only idiots would believe it. (As it is, an MTF chart like what we're seeing now is a bit suspect.)

So they price it as high as possible, because what are they going to do for an encore?



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM
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p.5 #7 · New lenses


There's nothing like a slew of new lenses to fire up the FM denizens. This thread alone will do wonders for my post count


Aug 26, 2010 at 12:43 AM
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p.5 #8 · New lenses


IMO, that 70-300mm L would be better with constant aperture that would have me tempted.

428II MTF is crazy, but 328II isn't far behind either.



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:44 AM
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p.5 #9 · New lenses


robinlee wrote:
IMO, that 70-300mm L would be better with constant aperture that would have me tempted.


I'm assuming you mean f/4? If so, you can probably, at the very least, double/triple the current price. Would you still be tempted?



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:47 AM
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p.5 #10 · New lenses


wickerprints wrote:
There's nothing like a slew of new lenses to fire up the FM denizens. This thread alone will do wonders for my post count


Ditto!



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:50 AM
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p.5 #11 · New lenses


M Vers wrote:
I'm assuming you mean f/4? If so, you can probably, at the very least, double/triple the current price. Would you still be tempted?


Price is very subjective but I do not think the price would be double.



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:52 AM
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p.5 #12 · New lenses


robinlee wrote:
Price is very subjective but I do not think the price would be double.


Look at the price difference between the 300/4 IS and the 300/2.8 IS for example. One full stop can cost a significant difference.



Aug 26, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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p.5 #13 · New lenses


Who will be the first to post a comparison of the 400 f2.8L IS Mk2 + 2X TC Mk3 vs. the 800 f5.6L? That would be interesting to see, and could be part of the explanation of the 400 IS Mk2 price. I'm sure the 800 will focus faster than the 400+2X, but an IQ comparison will be interesting.


Aug 26, 2010 at 12:54 AM
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p.5 #14 · New lenses


Hope the 300/2.8 IS II doesn't become Canon's "New Coke".

I don't have a single complaint about my 300/2.8 IS MkI (except not having enough time to use it)



Aug 26, 2010 at 01:04 AM
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p.5 #15 · New lenses


M Vers wrote:
Look at the price difference between the 300/4 IS and the 300/2.8 IS for example. One full stop can cost a significant difference.


im not sure this is a great comparison.. but even less than 1 stop can make double the price... ie: 50mm f1.8II vs 50mm f1.4



Aug 26, 2010 at 01:04 AM
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p.5 #16 · New lenses


I am VERY, VERY eager to see the block diagrams of all the lenses they've announced. Apparently, Canon's EF Lens Work III has been revised for a 10th edition.


Aug 26, 2010 at 01:08 AM
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p.5 #17 · New lenses


The new 400 2.8 IS II now becomes my ultimate dream birding glass, over and above any flavor of the 500 f4, 600 f4 and 800 5.6. I wish I was born with half a dozen kidneys.


I posted the MTF charts and weight/MFD comparisons (courtesy of online Canon materials) of the 400 2.8 IS II, 400 2.8 IS classic, and the 800 5.6 IS in our local birding forum.

http://birdphotoph.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gear&action=display&thread=6290&page=1

I look forward to seeing how the AF speed of the 400 II + 2x TCIII compares with that of the 400 I + 2x TC II.



Aug 26, 2010 at 01:13 AM
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p.5 #18 · New lenses


this might have been mentioned before, but I just realized that Canon shaved off 3 lbs from the weight of the 400 f2.8IS to the II version.

for the 300 though, only a 0.5lb reduction.



Aug 26, 2010 at 01:14 AM
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p.5 #19 · New lenses


RobertLynn wrote:
lol, I wonder how many people are going, where's my 24-70 IS!



exactly or 15-50 IS

or 50 1.4 ring-USM

(or even 100-400 Mk II or 400 f/5.6 IS)

they might come with the 1Ds4 announcement, only they just announced so many lenses I simply can't imagine more coming out this year....

i wonder if the 1Ds4 might not in fact be a early 2011 now??

maybe it will still come in sept. and maybe they push up 5D3 to early 2011 to arrive with 24-70 IS/15-50 IS? and then 7D2 next fall with a 100-400 Mk II?

sadly I think the non-L line is done for, probably never a working 50mm 1.4


yoowwwwwwwwwwww one the prices


Edited on Aug 26, 2010 at 01:38 AM · View previous versions



Aug 26, 2010 at 01:29 AM
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p.5 #20 · New lenses


Not one of these lenses will make any difference in my lineup or be considered for purchase. The only thing I might someday get out of it is a 300 f/2.8 IS v.1 if it drops in price.


Aug 26, 2010 at 01:30 AM
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