But now I'm depressed because these are all going to be SUPER expensive, I guarantee it.
$7K and $11K for the 300 and 400? That's ridiculous. I'll have to wait a few years for the price to drop before I'd even consider buying at that price, no matter how good these lenses are.
The EF Extender 2x III, though, I would consider, if it proves to be much better than the Mark II.
I'm a bit disappointed in the fisheye zoom, because it's f/4. And $1400? Not worth it.
phidong wrote: I would be HIGHLY considering that fisheye to replace my 10-17mm (which I use on FF) if it were closer to $1000 but 1400? For a fisheye? It better be damned good...
I agree the prices look bad, but it may be a bit early to conclude they are going to stay that way. Recently introduced lenses did come down in price after a few months (e.g. I noted this for the 100/2.8L IS macro), so it should become better (not sure about the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 though).
incredibly expensive prices on these new lenses. I was thinking it may be nice to upgrade a couple of things until I saw the listed retail prices. wow!
Xavier Rival wrote:
I agree the prices look bad, but it may be a bit early to conclude they are going to stay that way. Recently introduced lenses did come down in price after a few months (e.g. I noted this for the 100/2.8L IS macro), so it should become better (not sure about the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 though).
They would have to come down by a couple thousand dollars to match Nikon's prices....which I cannot see happening.
Jeeze, Fred is going to have to add a lot of sticky-post, "Master" threads now...
So, it would seem to me (as others had theorized with the introduction of the 70-200 f2.8 IS Mk2) that Canon is refreshing their already good/great lenses to match with the increasing demands of the higher and higher density sensors they have released and will continue to release.
For $7K, that 300/2.8L IS II better **** my **** and ask me afterward if it was as good for me as it was for it. Maybe they've expanded the rear drop-in filter.
M Vers wrote:
I wonder if the 15 FE's days are numbered...
Everyone has been asking for a replacement right? The only downside to this is it is only f/4 compared to 2.8 on the current 15mm FE's but it is weathersealed and you get 2 for 1. I'll be watching for samples from this lens for sure.
phidong wrote:
Everyone has been asking for a replacement right? The only downside to this is it is only f/4 compared to 2.8 on the current 15mm FE's but it is weathersealed and you get 2 for 1. I'll be watching for samples from this lens for sure.
"This replacement for the EF 15mm F2.8 fisheye will produce circular images with a 180 degree angle of view when used at its widest setting on 35mm-format cameras such as the EOS 5D Mark II, and images which cover the full sensor area at 15mm." -DPR
M Vers wrote:
I wonder if the 15 FE's days are numbered...
Canon has announced the EF 8-15mm f/4 L USM, the world's first fisheye zoom lens to offer both 'circular' and 'full frame' images. This replacement for the EF 15mm F2.8 fisheye will produce circular images with a 180 degree angle of view when used at its widest setting on 35mm-format cameras such as the EOS 5D Mark II, and images which cover the full sensor area at 15mm. It also incorporates marks at intermediate zoom positions denoting the widest settings which can be used on APS-C and APS-H format cameras to give full frame images without vignetting. The lens features weatherproof construction, including water-repellant Fluorine coating on the front and rear elements, and Canon's 'Sub-Wavelength Structure Coating' to minimize flare and ghosting
The one good thing about this announcement is that it ends all the speculation that's been building up over the EF lineup the past several months. We know there won't be more coming out until next year.
An interesting thing though: The EF 70-300/4-5.6L IS competes directly with the 70-300/4.5-5.6 DO IS, but I didn't hear anything about them discontinuing the latter....
I concur. I saw the prices, but then I saw the words "Street Price". That's like saying MSRP. Who actually pays MSRP? I would be very inclined to speculate, that the actual prices will be less than the prices, that are being quoted. Canon's Street Prices on their website, are for the most part higher, than any dealer, that I have ever compared prices with.
How can the newest gen 400 cost' more than the 800/5.6 That doesn't make much sense. I would bet if I were a betting man, that the 400 will retail for around 8.5K. The current 400 is 7.2K. And I wouldn't be surprised if the 300 will end up retailing for closer to 5.5K, maybe 6K, since the current 300 is 4.5K. If these street prices were to hold, then I would suspect, that Canon won't sell many of the Expensive Big Whites.
While I'm speculating, I will make an educated guess, that the New 500 will sell for 7.5K, and the 600, for around 9.5K.
I'm thinking its pretty safe to say the EF line of lenses may be at a dead end. Last year the 100/2.8 macro was replaced with an L version, this year the 15 FE was replaced with an L and, I'm assuming, the 70-300 IS will be replaced by an L.
I disagree...when Canon announces pricing for new lenses, they always come out at that price. Later on, it might drop by about 5-10%, but they always, always sell out the first batches at MSRP. As insane as these prices are, there are going to be PLENTY of early adopters who simply must have the latest and greatest.
omarlyn wrote:
It seems that the age of the (relatively) inexpensive full frame lens is coming to an end. I wonder how long before the 50/1.8II becomes a $400 markIII?
Omar
M Vers wrote:
I'm thinking affordable lenses will soon become only available in EF-S mount. On another note, I wonder if high density sensors have something to do with these (ridiculous) price increases on the super tele line.
Canon just announced a few days ago their development of a 120mp AP-H sensor. Even if that was just a 'showcase' piece it clearly shows the ultimate direction where everything is headed. Where once I thought that 50mp might be the ultimate advancement in FF sensors (due to lens limitations) it seems that Canon is going to push the bounds of optical designs to allow 100 or even 200mp FF sensors.
The loss of affordable FF lenses is something I lament a great deal as the market for professional photography changes, it becomes harder in many fields to make a (or as much of a) profit. The non-professional photographer will have to dig VERY deep to pursue the 'art of photography'. Here's another possibility that I lament coming true...the 35/2 may be a 'dog' in the corners and have a slow archaic AF system but is VERY sharp in the center & VERY affordable. Use it carefully within it's limitations and it is great on full frame without breaking the bank. Eventually, it'll get updated at three times the price or eliminated all together leaving the 35/1.4 as the only (expensive) choice. Of course, even the 35/1.4 will have to be updated to handle the new 'super sensors'
wickerprints wrote:
An interesting thing though: The EF 70-300/4-5.6L IS competes directly with the 70-300/4.5-5.6 DO IS, but I didn't hear anything about them discontinuing the latter....
And it competes with the 70-300 IS non-DO. Keep in mind the 100 macro was discontinued some months after the L was released.
I would be HIGHLY considering that fisheye to replace my 10-17mm (which I use on FF) if it were closer to $1000 but 1400? For a fisheye? It better be damned good...
It is guaranteed...Prices are listed on the first page.
