bruni wrote:
Very interesting Mihai, I'd love to see a comparison with the Canon R and Nikon manual focus lenses. I'm torn about the new mirrorless bodies. I can't see any difference between the Z6/7 with the FTZ adapter and the Canon R with the nikon adapter. These lenses were designed for a 46.5 mm flange distance - the Z6/7 has a 16mm flange distance, Sony has an 18mm flange distance and the Canon has a 20mm flange distance - and as they're all new mounts, there doesn't seem to be any reason to put the old nikkors on Nikon. It's no longer a native mount. They're all exotic mounts and that's why they're designing all new lenses for these mounts. So it comes down to which mirrorless body you prefer rather than compatibility with the mount. Have I got that right- am I missing something?
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You are correct Ben. Some of us also want to use the Dslrs in addition to mirrorless. In thiss case i prefer all nikon for commonality of user interface and post processing.
I could not find an use for my second FTZ adapter so it will go back and the money will go to a M39 for my leica screw Nikkors.
Here is the camera with a few lenses, used the D3 at ISO 1600 and F8 with the 105mm to take these and there is some camera shake and noise that the Z6 would not have created.
PS: This is an ugly camera as are most mirrorless, will prove it later with pictures by the side of pretty ones.
Here is a portrait, I am not happy with using the Z6 for MF portaits because people lack hard edges to trigger focus peaking and there is no focusing indicator. EAsy to miss focus, any advice? Leighton, you seem to get mirrorless peaking focus right with people.. Ended up with the D810 for this use. This photo with the 45mm GN
rafaelcasd wrote:
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PS: This is an ugly camera as are most mirrorless, will prove it later with pictures by the side of pretty ones.
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Here is a portrait, I am not happy with using the Z6 for MF portaits because people lack hard edges to trigger focus peaking and there is no focusing indicator. EAsy to miss focus, any advice? Leighton, you seem to get mirrorless peaking focus right with people.. Ended up with the D810 for this use. This photo with the 45mm GN
For other uses it is a great camera, the photos below show how clean and wide the Dynamic range is. No noise in the deep shadows.
Normal photo, it had a significant portion to the right end of the JPG historgram but on the raw file the highlights were all there.
If you think that is ugly wait until you put a small LTM Nikkor (3.5cm and below) on it. Butt ugly. The larger ones should be nice (8.5cm and larger). Especially the black body 10.5cm LTM
Re: your comment about shooting portrait... On the D810, do you rely on the focus confirmation dot or do you just go by your eye on the viewfinder screen for focus. The reason I ask is if you do not rely on the focus confirmation dot of the D810, it would imply that the Z6 EVF is not on par with the optical viewfinder for focusing by sight only. Also, does the Z6 have the ability to assign a FN button to zoom in for focus confirmation? Was easy to do on the Fuji and what I did most of the time. Zoom into the eyes, focus, shoot.
Thanks for showing the exposure range. Looks like it is close to the D8XX range.
rafaelcasd wrote:
You are correct Ben. Some of us also want to use the Dslrs in addition to mirrorless. In thiss case i prefer all nikon for commonality of user interface and post processing.
Yes, that's one advantage, and if you've got AF nikon lenses then they will work with it too, so yes, you get all the advantages of being in the one system. Thanks for posting all these pics Rafael - it's very interesting. I see what you mean about how the Z6 looks - but more than the camera, that adapter is ugly. Focus peaking/assist is amazing on the Canon M50, that's partly why I'm so interested in the R series. But I guess I'll wait - these are first gen cameras - Canon is going to release more early next year so it won't be a long wait. Don't know about Nikon's plans.
bruni wrote:
Yes, that's one advantage, and if you've got AF nikon lenses then they will work with it too, so yes, you get all the advantages of being in the one system. Thanks for posting all these pics Rafael - it's very interesting. I see what you mean about how the Z6 looks - but more than the camera, that adapter is ugly. Focus peaking/assist is amazing on the Canon M50, that's partly why I'm so interested in the R series. But I guess I'll wait - these are first gen cameras - Canon is going to release more early next year so it won't be a long wait. Don't know about Nikon's plans.
I figure it won't be long before Novaflex, Metabones and others have a better looking adapter without the electronics for the manual focus glass. I was a little disappointed that the tripod mount on the adapter was not removable like the Metabones adapters are for Fuji, Sony, etc.
But you are right, if only for manual focus use, there are many options now in full frame.
gbohannon wrote:
If you think that is ugly wait until you put a small LTM Nikkor (3.5cm and below) on it. Butt ugly. The larger ones should be nice (8.5cm and larger). Especially the black body 10.5cm LTM
Re: your comment about shooting portrait... On the D810, do you rely on the focus confirmation dot or do you just go by your eye on the viewfinder screen for focus. The reason I ask is if you do not rely on the focus confirmation dot of the D810, it would imply that the Z6 EVF is not on par with the optical viewfinder for focusing by sight only. Also, does the Z6 have the ability to assign a FN button to zoom in for focus confirmation? Was easy to do on the Fuji and what I did most of the time. Zoom into the eyes, focus, shoot.
Thanks for showing the exposure range. Looks like it is close to the D8XX range.
Thank you George, the top front button can be programmed to Zoom the viewfinder, just did it and it works great. With regrads to the D810 focus indicator, with my left eye I need to use it, with my right eye I don't. The viewfinder on the D810 has far higher resolution viewfinder but does not necessarily provide a clear sense of focus due to its generic focusing screen. (Ever use a 100% area prismatic F2 screen?)
rafaelcasd wrote:
Thank you George, the top front button can be programmed to Zoom the viewfinder, just did it and it works great. With regrads to the D810 focus indicator, with my left eye I need to use it, with my right eye I don't. The viewfinder on the D810 has far higher resolution viewfinder but does not necessarily provide a clear sense of focus due to its generic focusing screen. (Ever use a 100% area prismatic F2 screen?)
I so wish modern DSLRs would have a removable prism so the focusing screens could be replaced. I would take that over an EVF any day of the week
after 20mm and 180mm, my 16mm doesn't want to be left out. so here from the SAC museum another crusty B58 image in SEP2 processed B&W.
Side note on SEP2: It's not free any longer! I was just setting up Adobe CC on my Windows 10 boot drive to prep for 2020 when Windows 7 moves on into operating system heaven, only to find out you can't download the SEP2 installer from Google any longer. Bankrupt DXO bought the rights and now wants $$$ for the plugins and it doesn't look like they did anything to improve the software.
Time to dig up a free installer downloaded last year, because I am not buying this stuff a second time - I bought the set at full price before Google started giving it away.
16mm f/3.5 AI on D810 resting on plane's engine cowling.
pburke wrote:
after 20mm and 180mm, my 16mm doesn't want to be left out. so here from the SAC museum another crusty B58 image in SEP2 processed B&W.
Side note on SEP2: It's not free any longer! I was just setting up Adobe CC on my Windows 10 boot drive to prep for 2020 when Windows 7 moves on into operating system heaven, only to find out you can't download the SEP2 installer from Google any longer. Bankrupt DXO bought the rights and now wants $$$ for the plugins and it doesn't look like they did anything to improve the software.
Time to dig up a free installer downloaded last year, because I am not buying this stuff a second time - I bought the set at full price before Google started giving it away.
16mm f/3.5 AI on D810 resting on plane's engine cowling.
Yep. Found out the same when I got my new Macbook last month. I downloaded the 30 day trial and see nothing different. Like you, the old download links I had and the registration numbers do not work for the DXO versions. That trial expired this week. Not sure what I am going to do right now. I do like the B&W filters in Lightroom, so may just run with them.
gbohannon wrote:
Yep. Found out the same when I got my new Macbook last month. I downloaded the 30 day trial and see nothing different. Like you, the old download links I had and the registration numbers do not work for the DXO versions. That trial expired this week. Not sure what I am going to do right now. I do like the B&W filters in Lightroom, so may just run with them.
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I have located two versions of the Windows installers from the Google era. Will try them soon to see if they still work. On my Macbook I have it installed, but I don't have an installer any longer.
pburke wrote:
I have located two versions of the Windows installers from the Google era. Will try them soon to see if they still work. On my Macbook I have it installed, but I don't have an installer any longer.
After this conversation and a PM from Kevin, my memory was jogged... Was able to reload from a Time Machine backup from my old Macbook.
But was looking at the DXO site and , DXO has Black Friday sale already going on with the collection 50% off.
I have a working copy of NIK for Mac that I can host someplace for us. I should have the last working Windows version as well, but I need to check my work machine for it.
I also have the Mac (nikcollection-full-1.2.11) installer as well as the Windows version. I have them up on Google Drive, so if you'll PM an email address, I'll share them with you.
gbohannon wrote:
I remember you mentioning earlier you were considering LASIK. I only get frustrated with my glasses in the hot humid summer and have considered doing it. But now that winter is coming I seem to put it in the back of my memory. I wear polarized prescription most of the time when outside and when I had the Fuji, the EVF would blackout unless I turned it 90 degrees
I had LASIK about 20 years ago (at age 54) having been extremely myopic from age 6 or so. I wore hard contact lenses for about 35 years and my eyes finally settled at -13.5 and -12.75. The opthalmologist who did the surgery was a world authority and pioneer in LASIK and even though no-one will touch such near sightedness with LASIK today he did a great job. I had better than 20/25 for about 15 years and gradually my sight deteriorated due to cataracts. Correcting for cataracts is simple if you've not had LASIK but it's complicated afterwards and finding the correct lens implant is an issue.
Once again I was fortunate to find a top man in this field and although my lenses have been replaced in both eyes (8 years apart) I now have 20/25 which is not bad for 74. I do need reading glasses in common with most seniors but the joy of going without glasses is hard to describe.
What this does mean though is that focusing MF lenses without the dot can sometimes be a bit problematic and I was looking for a KatzEye screen for the D200 at one stage. Split screen focusing is such a joy and even the fresnel screens on my (very) old Pentaxes were amazing.
I'm told that one needs to be more than -2 in each eye to really appreciate LASIK but all I know is it changed my life.
