I got the same thing (professional cameras) at the art museum here. I've not gone anywhere near as much as I used to, but selfies definitely aren't prohibited. Security headed me off at the door cause I had the camera with a lens attached, and a camera bag. Left, pulled up their web site FAQ and then went back in and asked the desk people where it said my gear was not welcome. They let me in, though I'm sure the cameras were trained on me the whole time.
Now the AF museum is a whole 'nother story, tripods, flash, all welcome.
And yup, I avoid including people in my shots too, unless they're performing, like the dancers above.
gbohannon wrote:
But there were probably cellphone "selfies" everywhere you look.
Luckily I have not witnessed that at any of the markets around here. Only places I have had issues is the NC Museum of Art and a funny sign at a local coliseum. Had a "No Professional Cameras" sign. Not professional photography, but professional cameras. Whatever they are
James Markus wrote:
This is just an observation. I went to the farmers market yesterday in 90 degree heat. Only lasted about 90 minutes, but the people were very friendly. I only shot produce (though some were offering to be included), because I have been running into some negative feedback at another farmers market I occasionally go to. In my professional career, and since - I always asked permission before I shot anything that included identifiable people. Usually, i am armed with model release forms geared to a specific publication - or for my own usage. I just didn't want to deal with it yesterday. However, at the other farmers market, management has posted "No Photography" signs. They want prior shooting approval, and prepublication editorial approval. I don't know what instigated this (wasn't me) but just because you are in the public domain doesn't mean you can't respect people's wishes not to be shot. It may be technically legal if used only for editorial content. However, it creates ill will' plus there are plenty of people willing to be included in photos - I would suggest we use them. Nobody here did anything to prompt this - It was the signs painted on all the entrances at the other farmers market. I thought..."fine, I won't shoot here again".
All with the 85mm f1.4 ais @ 1.4...except the radishes were @ f2.0
Jim, the only way a farmers' market can post "no photography" signs is if they are a privately owned market. There are numerous "farmers' markets" out there with that in their name that aren't true farmers' markets. Theses places bug me to no end because they make folks thank they are buying directly from a farmer, when in fact, they're buying from a middleman who buys wholesale and sells retail.
There are hundreds of folks photographing at our market every week with no issues.
Ahh! Last Wednesday Robin and I had the good fortune to meet Laura, (Night Owl Cat) at a restaurant she suggested …
Shen's! What a terrific place with great atmosphere and great food. WE sat for hours and discussed every one of you too!
Here are some shots. Note the marquee for Shen's is real similar to Laura's shots taken and posted here with Mary and Scott when she passed thru New York.
*** Laura, Hope the Noct's depth of field lived up to what I said it could do!
I wonder if these venues/artist realize they are only hurting themselves? A large music venue in town has reduced the press coverage to about 5 minutes in a waist high cyclone fence cage. All the photogs file into this tiny pen for them all to shoot the exact same perspective. Now the newspaper merely has a mention of an event, or a canned studio photo. The best photogs won't shoot under these conditions, and so they cover other venues instead. I don't understand the shift from wanting coverage to resenting it.
NightOwl Cat wrote:
I got the same thing (professional cameras) at the art museum here. I've not gone anywhere near as much as I used to, but selfies definitely aren't prohibited. Security headed me off at the door cause I had the camera with a lens attached, and a camera bag. Left, pulled up their web site FAQ and then went back in and asked the desk people where it said my gear was not welcome. They let me in, though I'm sure the cameras were trained on me the whole time.
Now the AF museum is a whole 'nother story, tripods, flash, all welcome.
And yup, I avoid including people in my shots too, unless they're performing, like the dancers above.
Thanks Leighton. It is a hybrid farmers market. There are temporary stalls as well as permanent indoor ones like Seattle's Pike Street Market. They got a city tax break because they were developing in a "food desert", However, due to gentrification, it is by far the most expensive high end market in town. If it wasn't for the excellent cayenne pepper, and homemade cardamom orange ice cream - I would never go there. The one I did go to was well over 100 yards long (both sides) all with temporary free standing canopies. However, a permanent indoor structure was being erected adjacent to the outdoor market - like the one with the "No Photography" signs. If it happens again I will move to yet another farmers market.
leighton w wrote:
Jim, the only way a farmers' market can post "no photography" signs is if they are a privately owned market. There are numerous "farmers' markets" out there with that in their name that aren't true farmers' markets. Theses places bug me to no end because they make folks thank they are buying directly from a farmer, when in fact, they're buying from a middleman who buys wholesale and sells retail.
There are hundreds of folks photographing at our market every week with no issues.
leighton w wrote:
Jim, the only way a farmers' market can post "no photography" signs is if they are a privately owned market. There are numerous "farmers' markets" out there with that in their name that aren't true farmers' markets. Theses places bug me to no end because they make folks thank they are buying directly from a farmer, when in fact, they're buying from a middleman who buys wholesale and sells retail.
There are hundreds of folks photographing at our market every week with no issues.
"Farmers' Markets" around here are hybrids, heavy on resellers other than in the two months in mid to late summer. It's also a hybrid in that it's a lot of "processed" foods such as salsa, honey, coffee, pastries etc, not necessarily produce. Even at the mid summer peak it's lucky if we hit 60% produce vs other stuff. In addition, I've also observed what I would call selective pricing, vendors asking different prices for the same thing from different people on the same day; observing as a photographer is interesting to say the least. I just call them open air markets with a sprinkling of farmers.
As to photography, I find the lighting uninteresting for the market here, and since I usually do not include people (at least in individually identifiable form) in my shots that restricts image choices even more. I do find "farmers' markets" interesting enough to seek them out on travels though. Usually meet some nice folks and enjoy watching the locals.
If there are "No Photography" signs, so be it. Camera put away.
pbraymond wrote:
"Farmers' Markets" around here are hybrids, heavy on resellers other than in the two months in mid to late summer. It's also a hybrid in that it's a lot of "processed" foods such as salsa, honey, coffee, pastries etc, not necessarily produce. Even at the mid summer peak it's lucky if we hit 60% produce vs other stuff. In addition, I've also observed what I would call selective pricing, vendors asking different prices for the same thing from different people on the same day; observing as a photographer is interesting to say the least. I just call them open air markets with a sprinkling of farmers.
As to photography, I find the lighting uninteresting for the market here, and since I usually do not include people (at least in individually identifiable form) in my shots that restricts image choices even more. I do find "farmers' markets" interesting enough to seek them out on travels though. Usually meet some nice folks and enjoy watching the locals.
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The large markets in my area are the same. Becoming mostly vendors, bakeries, canned/processed, crafts, etc. We go to the state market a couple times a year to get our larger amount of vegetables if we want to do our own canning or stock up on sweet potatoes for the winter. I live in a small town and we have a very small but true farmers market for half day on Saturday. Usually about a dozen or so pop up canopies or selling out of the back of a truck. But there is one lady there that has coconut pies and she knows I can't resist
One trend that is trying to start in one of our grocery stores is a farm to store produce program. You pre-buy a case of vegetables (8 - 12 week program) and pick up each Saturday. You get whatever has been harvested. It appears they are partnering with local farmers for this service. We have looked at it but have not yet subscribed. They also have a specific section in the store with local organic farm products though Eastern Carolina Organics. About 40 different farmers.
Thanks Ken, it was great meeting you two, too! It was definitely fun. Next time on your way by we definitely need to do the AF museum!! (I don't recommend their cafe though) and yes, happy with the Noct's performance on that shot
Ken Hill wrote:
Ahh! Last Wednesday Robin and I had the good fortune to meet Laura, (Night Owl Cat) at a restaurant she suggested …
Shen's! What a terrific place with great atmosphere and great food. WE sat for hours and discussed every one of you too!
Here are some shots. Note the marquee for Shen's is real similar to Laura's shots taken and posted here with Mary and Scott when she passed thru New York.
*** Laura, Hope the Noct's depth of field lived up to what I said it could do!
the solitaire wrote:
Looking forward to see that knife George. If I can be of any assistance, I will gladly offer any knowledge I have and share a trick or two.
Solingen most likely says something about the steel being used, or the blade manufacturer.
I also appreciate a well used blade for regular use. Just like with film cameras, a few scuffs and some patina adds character
Posting for Buddy. If others feel this is off thread too much please let me know. But I figured it may be of interest given our diverse hobbies that we all have.
The overall length is almost 11". Blade length is 6". As you can see this knife has seen heavy use. But it keeps an edge like no other I have. Razor sharp and has a ton of character. Like I said, it was my fathers and I would like to make sure it is able to be passed on to my son. But would also like to use it as an everyday knife for camping back country. I am already working on making a new leather sheath. That part I can handle
My main question is about how to maintain the handle or if I should be concerned. Sort of hard to see from the picture, but the main handle is two pieces of stag horn, with layers of other material at the ends. The pommel is somewhat loose and will twist about 1/8 turn either way. At the end it appears to be a two prong threaded piece and assuming the end of the tang is threaded. Second image shows this. If you twist the end, both the silver pommel and the two prong circle section turn together, but the center most piece does not. That is why I think it may be threaded.
I do not want to try to remove it without really knowing how it is attached. I don't want to make it worse.
Do you have any thoughts? Try to remove and perhaps use two part epoxy? Or just leave it like it is?
Do you think the end is threaded or compression fitted?
Thanks Buddy.
George
Edit: Oh yeah... Shot with the Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/3.5
NightOwl Cat wrote:
I never made it to the Larz Anderson museum when I lived there. Maybe some day if I ever return to visit...
First time for me. It was an almost all Italian show on the lawn ranging from Ferrari, Maserati & Lamborghini to Fiats both new & vintage. The only non Italian make I saw was Mclarens. I'm sure the value of the assembled cars was larger than some countries GNP.
I still read the Globe out here, and see where they have themed weekend car shows there. They also have a Concours, but not sure when that happens.
viczig wrote:
First time for me. It was an almost all Italian show on the lawn ranging from Ferrari, Maserati & Lamborghini to Fiats both new & vintage. The only non Italian make I saw was Mclarens. I'm sure the value of the assembled cars was larger than some countries GNP.
gbohannon wrote:
Posting for Buddy. If others feel this is off thread too much please let me know. But I figured it may be of interest given our diverse hobbies that we all have.
The overall length is almost 11". Blade length is 6". As you can see this knife has seen heavy use. But it keeps an edge like no other I have. Razor sharp and has a ton of character. Like I said, it was my fathers and I would like to make sure it is able to be passed on to my son. But would also like to use it as an everyday knife for camping back country. I am already working on making a new leather sheath. That part I can handle
My main question is about how to maintain the handle or if I should be concerned. Sort of hard to see from the picture, but the main handle is two pieces of stag horn, with layers of other material at the ends. The pommel is somewhat loose and will twist about 1/8 turn either way. At the end it appears to be a two prong threaded piece and assuming the end of the tang is threaded. Second image shows this. If you twist the end, both the silver pommel and the two prong circle section turn together, but the center most piece does not. That is why I think it may be threaded.
I do not want to try to remove it without really knowing how it is attached. I don't want to make it worse.
Do you have any thoughts? Try to remove and perhaps use two part epoxy? Or just leave it like it is?
Do you think the end is threaded or compression fitted?
Thanks Buddy.
George
Edit: Oh yeah... Shot with the Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/3.5 ...Show more →
I believe you may need one of these... The other option is the butt of the knife unscrews and a shim is put in place. If memory serves, with use, the bone wears down and becomes loose. I want to say that is why some folks insert leather spacers in their designs. Many knife forums out there... Hope Buddy has more concrete info for you. Beautiful knife. Definitely a keeper.
Very nice images everyone. For some reason I'm too busy (lazy?) to get the camera out and get snapping but I browse, without comment, regularly to keep up.
George, that knife looks a lot like an old Puma hunting knife, made in Germany in the 1950's many of which were sold in South Africa. Looking at it I guess the handle was attached on a threaded tang using a special tool.
