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p.1819 #1 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


This common egret came to my house the first time on Feb 2020, she/he is three years older and still going strong.

She comes to hunt for lizards and mole rats, the second being the preferred dish- I saw her get three today, she waits by the burrow totally immobile for hours, when the mole rat peeks out she strikes.

Tried the 800mm 5.6 with a TC-14B, 1,120mm, this was too much lens, but the image quality was very decent, here is a sample:

Nikon Nikkor 800mm 5.6 EDIF TC14b Z6 egret 01_05 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

She kept moving closer and closer to the house, ignoring me, I took the TC off, the photos improved contrast, the background got prettier, and the lower ISO also made them better:.

The image quality of the 800mm 5.6 EDIF, so sharp and contrasty, with no color aberrations around the highlights, is very satisfying.

Nikon Nikkor 800mm 5.6 EDIF Z6 egret 01_04 (2) by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

Eventually she was right against the pool fence and I could no longer take photos without scaring her off as the fence was hiding her, she did get her meal.

This is a very heavy crop - 100% - this lens could use a Z7II
(how's that for manual focusing skills!)

Nikon Nikkor 800mm 5.6 EDIF Z6 egret 01_10 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr




Feb 05, 2023 at 11:29 PM
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p.1819 #2 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


rafaelcasd wrote:
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This is a very heavy crop - 100% - this lens could use a Z7II
(how's that for manual focusing skills!)


That's the spirit, Rafael. Keep talking yourself into that Z7(not I but II).

Poor mole rat.



Feb 06, 2023 at 01:20 PM
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p.1819 #3 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass



Df + Nikkor-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 | F8 ISO 800



Feb 06, 2023 at 01:21 PM
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p.1819 #4 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Excellent image quality Rafael.


rafaelcasd wrote:
This common egret came to my house the first time on Feb 2020, she/he is three years older and still going strong.

She comes to hunt for lizards and mole rats, the second being the preferred dish- I saw her get three today, she waits by the burrow totally immobile for hours, when the mole rat peeks out she strikes.

Tried the 800mm 5.6 with a TC-14B, 1,120mm, this was too much lens, but the image quality was very decent, here is a sample:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52671319512_8d68ffde0d_h.jpgNikon Nikkor 800mm 5.6 EDIF TC14b Z6 egret 01_05 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

She kept moving closer and closer
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Feb 06, 2023 at 03:10 PM
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p.1819 #5 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


As I mentioned in the other thread Colin

I have more of an affinity with the real mountain men and women in the Bernese Alps than the tourists

These shots taken on D810 & D800 with 28mm Ai-s and 50-135mm

The pano was with the 50-135mm

Thanks for reminding me to think of Kliene Schidegg and the Eiger again

Sorry Colin ..... I just couldn't resist

Steve




Stokesey 2023


Come climb with me !!

  NIKON D800    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    135mm    f/5.6    1/200s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  





Stokesey 2023


We can wait till the tourists go ......

  NIKON D810    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    28mm    f/8.0    1/200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  





Stokesey 2023


Eiger Monch & Jungfrau from Kleine Schidegg station

  NIKON D810    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    28mm    f/11.0    1/400s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Feb 06, 2023 at 05:52 PM
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p.1819 #6 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Fantastic Egret shots Raphael

Love the final crop ....... it seems that greed is good .... for an egret !!

Steve



Feb 06, 2023 at 05:54 PM
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p.1819 #7 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Momma Cat with Ruby and Oscar also in 2018 (she had two liters that year) with the 135mm f2.0 ai.
























Feb 06, 2023 at 06:27 PM
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p.1819 #8 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Part of the reason I have not bought a Z7II is that if I don't buy the OP or the Millennium, or the 7cm Micro Nikkor LTM is that I may not ge another good chance.

The Camera I can buy anytime.

Loved getting acquainted with the 5cm 1.4 S.C rangefinder, great fun to play with.

The 8.5cm 2.0 LTM or S are really fantastic, and work well with adverse light.

nikon 8.5cm 2.0 LTM 3 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

Just spent hours waxing and waxing

Nikon Nikkor 8.5cm 2.0 LTM Z6 RAM 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

The 8.5cm renders very nice, all the little flowers in this Japanese succulent (Do you know the name of it?) show in detail the glowing light of sunset.

Nikon Nikkor 8.5cm 2.0 LTM Z6 succulent 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr



Feb 06, 2023 at 08:48 PM
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p.1819 #9 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


James Markus wrote:
Momma Cat with Ruby and Oscar also in 2018 (she had two liters that year) with the 135mm f2.0 ai.

http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_135mm-f2.0-ai_Momma,Oscar,Ruby-3027-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_135mm-f2.0-ai_Momma,Oscar,Ruby-3034-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_135mm-f2.0-ai_Momma,Oscar,Ruby-2638-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_135mm-f2.0-ai_Momma,Oscar,Ruby-3056-S.jpg


Those cats are different and interesting James!



Feb 06, 2023 at 08:49 PM
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p.1819 #10 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I played catch up on this thread yesterday and one of the posts that caught my eye realted to lens resolution on digital sensors.

From a personal point of view as I've progressed from a D70 through a D200 (both CCD sensors), to D7200 and D500 (CMOS sensors) and highly capable cameras I don't find the results as satisfying as they once were. By less satisfying, I mean the images seem a bit softer - I realise that this is subjective and may have someting to do with my sight although using the focusing dot most of them seem OK when I take the shot.

Thom Hogan deals with this in passing in his very intersting article on matching lenses to your camera and budget https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-articles/choosing-lenses/rationalizing-lenses.html and it seems clear to me that there are likely to be resolution issues depending on the lens/camera combination.

As I have a little time on my hands, I'll do some empirical testing of my lenses on the Z5 using a tripod and post the results which, hopefully, will be of interest to someone here



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p.1819 #11 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


As promised - not great light and SOC All on the Z5 and all at f8

All 100% crop to 900x600 pixels

In every case the focus peaking was clear but when I refocused on my screen the eye was not "in focus" so i refocused on that - All on tripod at 1/30 , ISO 1000

If I get a chance I'll try something different in brighter light

28 f2.8 Ai'd by me

DSC_1280_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

50 f2 H Ai'd

DSC_1279_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

105 f2.5 Ai

DSC_1278_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

80-200 f4 @200mm Ai-s

DSC_1276_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr


28mm 2.8 full frame

DSC_1280_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

55% crop

DSC_1280_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr



Feb 07, 2023 at 03:27 AM
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p.1819 #12 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


A couple of panos for ya as Colin and Stokesey have been posting mountains

DSCF4957-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

DSCF4745-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

DSC_5984-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

Andy



Feb 07, 2023 at 05:55 AM
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p.1819 #13 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Oosty wrote:
As promised - not great light and SOC All on the Z5 and all at f8

All 100% crop to 900x600 pixels

In every case the focus peaking was clear but when I refocused on my screen the eye was not "in focus" so i refocused on that - All on tripod at 1/30 , ISO 1000

If I get a chance I'll try something different in brighter light



Hey Oom! Good to see you.

I must try this on my Z5 although it's an exercise that interests me the least. More data points never hurt. In general, I found focusing wide angle lenses on mirrorless to be almost mission impossible. The focus peeking was near useless. The widest MF focal length I have now is 35mm and I find the zoom plenty sharp at F8. Since you were on tripod, did you have the IBIS on or off.

With respect to higher MP and observed sharpness, I was not completely happy with 24MP DX when I had D5500. In quite a few lenses I found I needed to add a bit more sharpness to achieve something I found decently sharp for me. No such issues at 20MP DX (Z50) and 24MP FX(Z5). But as we now know, I prioritise the shooting experience over clinical sharpness.




Feb 07, 2023 at 07:11 AM
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p.1819 #14 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


cadman342001 wrote:
A couple of panos for ya as Colin and Stokesey have been posting mountains

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52653556001_7bcfc90ecd_h.jpgDSCF4957-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52653820459_af4933de9e_h.jpgDSCF4745-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52653037317_b416b21874_h.jpgDSC_5984-Pano by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

Andy


Andy, that last one really motivates me to work on our lupins. I love it.




Feb 07, 2023 at 07:13 AM
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p.1819 #15 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I totally agree with your take in the CCD sensor. I’ve kept my D200 for that very reason.


Oosty wrote:
I played catch up on this thread yesterday and one of the posts that caught my eye realted to lens resolution on digital sensors.

From a personal point of view as I've progressed from a D70 through a D200 (both CCD sensors), to D7200 and D500 (CMOS sensors) and highly capable cameras I don't find the results as satisfying as they once were. By less satisfying, I mean the images seem a bit softer - I realise that this is subjective and may have someting to do with my sight although using the focusing dot most of them seem OK
...Show more




Feb 07, 2023 at 09:01 AM
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p.1819 #16 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Thanks for all your comments

Going through some recent pix (up to a couple of years old) I was reminded how much I miss my MF lenses

I will, where possible, continue to use what I have left, with the incumbent difficulties of left eye focusing and handling,

It's all getting too much for this old guy !!

Here I used a D4S with 50-135mm mounted and pano'd

From the top of the Quarriang on the Isle of Skye, West Hebridean Island off Scotland looking east back to the mainland.

Happy days

Steve
Grizzled old Nikon man





Stokesey 2023


Looking east from the Quarriang - Isle of Skye, Hebrides

  NIKON D4S    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    50mm    f/11.0    1/250s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Feb 07, 2023 at 09:59 AM
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p.1819 #17 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Oosty wrote:
As promised - not great light and SOC All on the Z5 and all at f8

All 100% crop to 900x600 pixels

In every case the focus peaking was clear but when I refocused on my screen the eye was not "in focus" so i refocused on that - All on tripod at 1/30 , ISO 1000

If I get a chance I'll try something different in brighter light

28 f2.8 Ai'd by me

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52674666325_f28f4e388a_c.jpgDSC_1280_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

50 f2 H Ai'd

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52674666245_64eb2e3166_c.jpgDSC_1279_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

105 f2.5 Ai

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52674518904_8c6585c0dc_c.jpgDSC_1278_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

80-200 f4 @200mm Ai-s

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52673730122_34eff07263_c.jpgDSC_1276_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

28mm 2.8
...Show more

Peter, this was my experience with focusing on DSLRs - D3, D800, D810.

On the D3 and D800 I had to approach focusing from the near side and stop as soon as the focusing indication was steady, not flickering. If I went further the indicator was still steady but focusing would be too far by a bit.

On the D810 I have to approach focusing from far, with the same routine stop once the indicator becomes steady, else focusing will be off by a bit.

This worked with most lenses, a bit difficult at closer distances with the lenses like the 85 1.4, or 200 2.0; but it worked for the most part.

I could never focus the 800mm 5.6 with DSLRs, it was always off.

I was happy with DSLRs and bought a Z6 only to mount weird lenses that could not be mounted on an SLR camera.

But focusing with the Z6, with finder magnification and peaking highlights is so easy and accurate!

With the Z6 I can get 95% of my shots perfect, by just watching for the eye or other feature of interest to go red with the peaking highlights.

It works even with the 800mm 5.6.



Feb 07, 2023 at 03:21 PM
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p.1819 #18 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Hoping you'all are ok with more kitten photos. Ruby and Oscar on the patio furniture in 2018 with the 300mm f2.8 ais. All shot wide open. I am finding folders I never imaged.


































Feb 07, 2023 at 05:32 PM
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So cute, and yes, I'm fine with more cat photos. My three kittens still have energy galore, but they're 18 months old now so....

James Markus wrote:
Hoping you'all are ok with more kitten photos. Ruby and Oscar on the patio furniture in 2018 with the 300mm f2.8 ais. All shot wide open. I am finding folders I never imaged.

http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3154-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3128-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3150-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3136-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3119-S.jpg
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_Oscar,Ruby-3153-S.jpg





Feb 08, 2023 at 04:33 AM
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rafaelcasd wrote:
Peter, this was my experience with focusing on DSLRs - D3, D800, D810.

On the D3 and D800 I had to approach focusing from the near side and stop as soon as the focusing indication was steady, not flickering. If I went further the indicator was still steady but focusing would be too far by a bit.

On the D810 I have to approach focusing from far, with the same routine stop once the indicator becomes steady, else focusing will be off by a bit.

This worked with most lenses, a bit difficult at closer distances with the lenses like the 85 1.4,
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Thanks Rafael - ishot s few more with varius lenses, handheld and using the viewfinder. Initially I was not ecstatic but later applied the old "Sunny 16 rule, instead of M plus auto ISO and things improved a bit. Focus peaking still a bit off, I've tried all 3 sensitivities, and some of the results are visually pleasing but compared to my newer lenses, very soft.. All processed in Photolab 4 denoised in PL4 exported to Flickr as jpeg

A few below (apologies if too many images)

"Opening up" 28 mm @f8

DSC_1288_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

Geranium 105 2.5 f16 1/400 ISO400 "Sunny 16"

DSC_1301_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

Dianthus (Sweet William) 80-200 f16 1/400 ISO400 "Sunny 16"

DSC_1309_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

Budding Geranium (Heavy crop) 300 f4.5 1/640 f8 ISO 640

DSC_1315_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr

Felicia 300 f4.5 1/640 f8 ISO 640

DSC_1320_DxO by Peter Oosthuizen, on Flickr



Feb 08, 2023 at 08:23 AM
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