I recall being able to make in camera profiles on Nikon bodies. Of course with dslr you didn't see the results beforehand in the VF. I'm wondering if you do now on MILC EVF ?
The LR plug in option is after the event, I would really like to be able to preview the effect live when taking the shot.
I do recall the options on Nikon being rather basic, nothing compared to the film effects available to us on Fuji bodies although George does seem to have created a pleasing version on the Dfc
Am I correct George?
leighton w wrote:
Or, you could make your own in LR and save it as a preset.
AM4L wrote:
yup, I forgot about IBIS on the Z7, since I am not to thrilled with that camera, maybe its the XT-4 and a speed booster, I didn't have the speed booster version of the metacones, just the cheaper $100 version. I think what worries me most about the APS-C is ISO performance. The Z7's as I read degrades IBIS to 3 Axis when used with the FTZ. Leighton, do you still get full IBIS on the Fuji with adapted lenses?
I need to confess that I love Fuji color rendering too! lol
Thanks!
Mark
Yes, 5-5.5 stops. Even more when used with Fuji lenses that have OIS.
leighton w wrote:
I need some of you experts to tell me if I have an issue or not with Nikki.
If you look closely at this image in the sky (on both sides about an inch in), you can see what appears to be flare from the sun, but the sun wasn't out when I took this. Any answers? I did not have a hood on.
cadman342001 wrote:
I recall being able to make in camera profiles on Nikon bodies. Of course with dslr you didn't see the results beforehand in the VF. I'm wondering if you do now on MILC EVF ?
The LR plug in option is after the event, I would really like to be able to preview the effect live when taking the shot.
I do recall the options on Nikon being rather basic, nothing compared to the film effects available to us on Fuji bodies although George does seem to have created a pleasing version on the Dfc
Am I correct George?
Correct Andy. Nikon does not have the "named" film simulations like Fuji does out of the box, but you can create your own in the Picture Control Utility that you can download from Nikon. There is also a webpage that you can create your own too. As far as I know it is not affiliated with Nikon and not sure if it is supported anymore, but it is still out there.
leighton w wrote:
Yes, 5-5.5 stops. Even more when used with Fuji lenses that have OIS.
This prompted a question...
I know in the Nikon cameras, IBIS function is tied to the focal length of the lens. When using lenses with CPUs the camera reads the FL and applies the correct stabilization for that given lens. When using adapted lenses, the stabilization applied is based on the FL that you input manually in the menu database. This is a challenge when using a non-cpu adapted zoom lens, especially one with a large range 35-200 for example. If you set the FL manually for 35 and zoom to 200, your IBIS will be way off.
Ok.. Getting to my question. For the Fuji when using the speedbooster, what focal length are you inputting in the camera. The actual FL of the lens or the effective FL from the speedbooster. Example of a 105mm lens. 105mm is the actual lens FL, but when using the speedbooster/focal reducer it is effectively 75mm (105 x .71) to the sensor
It would seem that it would impact the effectiveness of the IBIS. No?
I know in the Nikon cameras, IBIS function is tied to the focal length of the lens. When using lenses with CPUs the camera reads the FL and applies the correct stabilization for that given lens. When using adapted lenses, the stabilization applied is based on the FL that you input manually in the menu database. This is a challenge when using a non-cpu adapted zoom lens, especially one with a large range 35-200 for example. If you set the FL manually for 35 and zoom to 200, your IBIS will be way off.
Ok.. Getting to my question. For the Fuji when using the speedbooster, what focal length are you inputting in the camera. The actual FL of the lens or the effective FL from the speedbooster. Example of a 105mm lens. 105mm is the actual lens FL, but when using the speedbooster/focal reducer it is effectively 75mm (105 x .71) to the sensor
It would seem that it would impact the effectiveness of the IBIS. No?
Great question. First of all your math is a little off. If I am using a 105mm lens + speedbooster on my Fuji, it would 105x.73(my particular adapter) x1.5 for the crop, which would equal 114.9 or say 115mm.
I'll have to do some research about the rest of question you brought up. But that does raise an interesting question.
Correct Andy. Nikon does not have the "named" film simulations like Fuji does out of the box, but you can create your own in the Picture Control Utility that you can download from Nikon. There is also a webpage that you can create your own too. As far as I know it is not affiliated with Nikon and not sure if it is supported anymore, but it is still out there.
Pretty cool link, but its still not like the real Fuji colors, lol Yes, I am being super picky!
Some of my most favorite colors came from the Fuji S3, still one of my favorites of all time. I was really sorry to see they didn't keep up with that flavor of Super CCD. They ruined things with the S5 in my very humble opinion as it relied on Nikons color engine to try and replicate Fuji Color. The Fuji S2 had gorgeous colors as well. The S3 leaned a bit to the red orangish side after the S2, the S5 leaned to the green yellow side but corrected toward Fuji side, but not anywhere as gorgeous as the S2 and S3 with its killer DR. Somewhere along the line the Fuji colors accented more of the Purples and Blues. You can see this in a lot of the Fuji pics posted. I happen to like their new color bias, its soothing and adds a bit of a mood. ok, time to stop rambling about Fuji colors!
So now to mix threads, I think I need to try the Z7 again and see if i can come to like it more. Sell the D500 and get me a Fuji!
leighton w wrote:
Great question. First of all your math is a little off. If I am using a 105mm lens + speedbooster on my Fuji, it would 105x.73(my particular adapter) x1.5 for the crop, which would equal 114.9 or say 115mm.
I'll have to do some research about the rest of question you brought up. But that does raise an interesting question.
I was referring to what native lens focal length you would have to equal using the focal reducer. In the case of the Metabones for example with a 105mm lens you would have to use a Fuji 75mm lens to get the same field of view. 105mm x .71. The adapter reduces the effective focal length of a 105mm down to approx 75mm.
wow this thread is moving fast this last couple of days. Great pics.
Mark - As Leighton said, I'm using the Canon R5. I have the Z7 too. I really like it. To my eye, the Canon has a less "digital" look than the Nikon or the Sony's, but that's not a scientific assessment. They're both excellent. The Nikon lenses adapt perfectly on the Canon. The adapter is about the same as for the Z7, if anything it's a bit smaller. I'm currently using Nikon Leica mount lenses because they're so tiny and so's the adapter. I see you've got some Leica mount and rangefinder mount lenses. They would all work beautifully on the Canon and the adapters are very small. But I see you're focussed on Nikon or Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of those options.
Leighton - I have no idea what might be causing it. I've never had it happen, and as you know I shoot into the sun a lot. All I can say is - don't blame Nikki.
This is Piazza Farnese, and this lady is dining alone. Nikkor 5cm f1.4 LTM/Canon R5.
Yup, that's why I still have my X-T2 although I haven't used it much since getting the Z6ii.
Just love the option of raw+jpeg, the film preset visible in the EVF captured as jpeg and an untouched raw filed saved as well.
Correct Andy. Nikon does not have the "named" film simulations like Fuji does out of the box, but you can create your own in the Picture Control Utility that you can download from Nikon. There is also a webpage that you can create your own too. As far as I know it is not affiliated with Nikon and not sure if it is supported anymore, but it is still out there.
Pretty cool link, but its still not like the real Fuji colors, lol Yes, I am being super picky!
Some of my most favorite colors came from the Fuji S3, still one of my favorites of all time. I was really sorry to see they didn't keep up with that flavor of Super CCD. They ruined things with the S5 in my very humble opinion as it relied on Nikons color engine to try and replicate Fuji Color. The Fuji S2 had gorgeous colors as well. The S3 leaned a bit to the red orangish side after the S2, the S5 leaned to the green yellow side but corrected toward Fuji side, but not anywhere as gorgeous as the S2 and S3 with its killer DR. Somewhere along the line the Fuji colors accented more of the Purples and Blues. You can see this in a lot of the Fuji pics posted. I happen to like their new color bias, its soothing and adds a bit of a mood. ok, time to stop rambling about Fuji colors!
So now to mix threads, I think I need to try the Z7 again and see if i can come to like it more. Sell the D500 and get me a Fuji!
GeorgeBo wrote:
I was referring to what native lens focal length you would have to equal using the focal reducer. In the case of the Metabones for example with a 105mm lens you would have to use a Fuji 75mm lens to get the same field of view. 105mm x .71. The adapter reduces the effective focal length of a 105mm down to approx 75mm.
Sorry, I miss understood, which Barbara would say is my default.
I looked around the net to find out more but couldn't find anything. I think I'll set each lens I use to the FL which includes the speedbooster. I don't know what to at this time.
I think that's the right approach, camera doesn't know your using a speed booster.
leighton w wrote:
Sorry, I miss understood, which Barbara would say is my default.
I looked around the net to find out more but couldn't find anything. I think I'll set each lens I use to the FL which includes the speedbooster. I don't know what to at this time.
Presented here is a photo of a small, colorful gorge on Avalanche Creek, Glacier Nat'l Park. I like going here on the more cloudy days as the shadows are not as harsh. This photo was taken on my Df with the 55mm f2.8 micro-Nikkor.
Presented here are 3 different crops - original 3x2, 7x5 and 5x4. I see strengths and weakness in each. However, I have been unable to decide how to crop this and have looked at it way too long to be objective anymore, so I am asking folks here to vote to help me decide. Thanks in advance - Doug
PS - it may be hard to believe, but I have actually had to turn the vibrance/saturation down. The colors off the Df are so different from those I get from my Sonys
Presented here is a photo of a small, colorful gorge on Avalanche Creek, Glacier Nat'l Park. I like going here on the more cloudy days as the shadows are not as harsh. This photo was taken on my Df with the 55mm f2.8 micro-Nikkor.
Presented here are 3 different crops - original 3x2, 7x5 and 5x4. I see strengths and weakness in each. However, I have been unable to decide how to crop this and have looked at it way too long to be objective anymore, so I am asking folks here to vote to help me decide. Thanks in advance - Doug
PS - it may be hard to believe, but I have actually had to turn the vibrance/saturation down. The colors off the Df are so different from those I get from my Sonys
bruni wrote:
wow this thread is moving fast this last couple of days. Great pics.
Mark - As Leighton said, I'm using the Canon R5. I have the Z7 too. I really like it. To my eye, the Canon has a less "digital" look than the Nikon or the Sony's, but that's not a scientific assessment. They're both excellent. The Nikon lenses adapt perfectly on the Canon. The adapter is about the same as for the Z7, if anything it's a bit smaller. I'm currently using Nikon Leica mount lenses because they're so tiny and so's the adapter. I see you've got some Leica mount and rangefinder mount lenses. They would all work beautifully on the Canon and the adapters are very small. But I see you're focussed on Nikon or Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of those options.
Leighton - I have no idea what might be causing it. I've never had it happen, and as you know I shoot into the sun a lot. All I can say is - don't blame Nikki.
This is Piazza Farnese, and this lady is dining alone. Nikkor 5cm f1.4 LTM/Canon R5.
Had to take a second look at this after seeing it on Flickr. A wonderful image that your dark side works for me. The light on the tables and her are perfect.
Presented here is a photo of a small, colorful gorge on Avalanche Creek, Glacier Nat'l Park. I like going here on the more cloudy days as the shadows are not as harsh. This photo was taken on my Df with the 55mm f2.8 micro-Nikkor.
Presented here are 3 different crops - original 3x2, 7x5 and 5x4. I see strengths and weakness in each. However, I have been unable to decide how to crop this and have looked at it way too long to be objective anymore, so I am asking folks here to vote to help me decide. Thanks in advance - Doug
PS - it may be hard to believe, but I have actually had to turn the vibrance/saturation down. The colors off the Df are so different from those I get from my Sonys
Damn it Doug, now you got me looking too long. But I finally decided on the 7x5 version because of the slightly more verticality of it. The 3x2 was too much and the the 5x4 wasn't enough. The 7x5 included just enough of the blue water to balance the falls. Of course, this is JMO.
