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p.25 #1 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


50mm 3.5 Macro on IR GF-1
Seems nice and sharp/contrasty, even WO. I'm looking forward to using it on a GH2 when I get one.
http://i.pbase.com/g1/63/551663/2/131668532.4cGzjsmN.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/g1/63/551663/2/131668533.EtkZGLjO.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/g1/63/551663/2/131668535.HnkVEmf9.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/g1/63/551663/2/131668537.IWGiESme.jpg
Mike



Jan 07, 2011 at 07:23 PM
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p.25 #2 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


vallejo wrote:
So I bought the Rokkor 58/1.2 for peanuts after seeing some shots here. Funny lens. My copy at f 1.2 it's only a very soft focus lens, which may be interesting if that's what you're looking for. At f 2.8 and above it's excellent. Made the same shot at f1.2- 2.8 - 4 to illustrate it. Have you been finding the same pattern or this is just my copy? All photos taken on a Canon 20D with Jim Buchanan's transformation.


I'd guess it's your copy.

This is wide open:

http://peltarion.eu/img/rokkor/rokkor-4.jpg

Crop:
http://peltarion.eu/img/rokkor/rokkor-4_crop.jpg


I mean it's not super-sharp wide open, but fairly sharp for an f/1.2 lens. For comparison, a crop from a Leica M9 + 75mm Summicron f/2 @ f/2:


http://peltarion.eu/img/rokkor/rokkor-4_crop_75cron.jpg



Jan 08, 2011 at 08:48 AM
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p.25 #3 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


That's funny.I'll keep testing. BTW, is this shot of yours on a full frame? Have you shaved the mirror or what?
André



Jan 08, 2011 at 09:07 AM
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p.25 #4 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Yep, full frame. I have not shaved the mirror and I can't focus to infinity with it. If I stop it down to f/5.6-f/8 and focus as far as it goes mechanically then infinity is within the DOF.

Luka



Jan 08, 2011 at 09:13 AM
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p.25 #5 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Humm, good tip. Will be trying...


Jan 08, 2011 at 09:14 AM
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p.25 #6 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


http://rharris-images.com/Lens-Conversion/Rokkor-to-Sony/Sample-Gallery/35Rok181000/1146661737_28m2p-L.jpg


ISO200, handheld/SSS.

f1.8
http://rharris.smugmug.com/Lens-Conversion/Rokkor-to-Sony/Sample-Gallery/DSC9642/1150296687_Q7KTb-L.jpg

f1.8
http://rharris.smugmug.com/Lens-Conversion/Rokkor-to-Sony/Sample-Gallery/DSC9650/1150299439_i6SUj-L.jpg

f4
http://rharris.smugmug.com/Lens-Conversion/Rokkor-to-Sony/Sample-Gallery/DSC9647/1150298216_duQbU-L.jpg



Jan 08, 2011 at 10:31 AM
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p.25 #7 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


vallejo wrote:
So I bought the Rokkor 58/1.2 for peanuts after seeing some shots here. Funny lens. My copy at f 1.2 it's only a very soft focus lens, which may be interesting if that's what you're looking for. At f 2.8 and above it's excellent. Made the same shot at f 2.8 and f 1.2 to illustrate it. Have you been finding the same pattern or this is just my copy? All photos taken on a Canon 20D with Jim Buchanan's transformation.

André Vallejo
www.vallejo.smugmug.com


doesn't look promising, but it's kinda tough to say from that image. it looks to me like it is backfocused - the crates on the truck look like they are in focus the front looks out of focus (tough to say at that small size though). that lens should be nearly impossible to focus at f/1.2 on a 20D with no liveview. do you have the stock screen or a focus screen design for faster lenses? the other thing is a scene like that with bright white and reflective elements getting direct sunlight will really magnify the spherical aberration and veiling flare making it look worse than it is. i would put it on a tripod and take focus bracketed shots of something in the shade before i make any conclusions for sure about it.



Jan 08, 2011 at 12:45 PM
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p.25 #8 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


there's some awesome bokeh in the shirt on this shot!

Piotr_P wrote:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3670/brtbw.jpg





Jan 08, 2011 at 01:11 PM
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p.25 #9 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
doesn't look promising, but it's kinda tough to say from that image. it looks to me like it is backfocused - the crates on the truck look like they are in focus the front looks out of focus (tough to say at that small size though). that lens should be nearly impossible to focus at f/1.2 on a 20D with no liveview. do you have the stock screen or a focus screen design for faster lenses? the other thing is a scene like that with bright white and reflective elements getting direct sunlight will really magnify the spherical aberration and
...Show more
I agree, looks like the focal plane is behind the cab of the truck.
and therefor more testing is required to confirm how sharp the lens truly is.



Jan 08, 2011 at 11:11 PM
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p.25 #10 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
there's some awesome bokeh in the shirt on this shot!




Who IS this guy? I keep seeing him on my monitor - holding hammers, looking wicked, tough, or bashful.


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PS: vallejo, you need to clean your lens of replace an element that's been over-cleaned.




Jan 08, 2011 at 11:18 PM
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p.25 #11 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Bifurcator wrote:
Who IS this guy? I keep seeing him on my monitor - holding hammers, looking wicked, tough, or bashful.



Thx sebboh

Bifurcator - he is my brother, very funny guy



Jan 09, 2011 at 05:36 AM
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p.25 #12 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


ricardovaste wrote:

http://rharris-images.com/Lens-Conversion/Rokkor-to-Sony/Sample-Gallery/35Rok181000/1146661737_28m2p-L.jpg



that conversion looks great, was it a pretty simple where you just have to replace the mount, or did it require some fiddling with the aperture mechanism?

here's a couple more from the MC 50/1.4:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/5338037173_72bda905df_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5338012445_c36f02bcc5_o.jpg



Jan 09, 2011 at 12:23 PM
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p.25 #13 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Sebboh: Great stuff as usual! 1st is my favourite.

Just picked up MD 50/1.4. Is conversion doable?
also toying with the thought of converting my 20D to Minolta mount...

Bif: Where are your shots!!!?



Jan 10, 2011 at 09:17 PM
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p.25 #14 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Krosavcheg wrote:
Sebboh: Great stuff as usual! 1st is my favourite.

Just picked up MD 50/1.4. Is conversion doable?
also toying with the thought of converting my 20D to Minolta mount...


thanks, which MD 50/1.4 did you get? there are 49mm and 55mm filter thread versions with slightly different optics. both are convertible though one might be a more difficult conversion than the other or more prone to mirror hanging (don't remember).



Jan 10, 2011 at 09:56 PM
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p.25 #15 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


The ginko leaves with the oof overpass background is SUBLIME!
Thanks for sharing!
Cherubino



Jan 11, 2011 at 10:25 AM
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p.25 #16 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
that conversion looks great, was it a pretty simple where you just have to replace the mount, or did it require some fiddling with the aperture mechanism?


Thanks! It was about as difficult as it gets in honesty :-(, for Rokkors, but I was snowed in for a couple of days, so had plenty of time to think it over :-). The aperture mechanism is inside a cam, seperate to the rest of the lens. I had to disassemble all of that, remove ~2mm from it, leaving a very thin base, and then drill and thread new holes in a wall that is only ~1.27mm thick :-(. I also had to re-make the ring that holds the aperture ring down in place, with the slot to let the DOF lever protrude. Almost makes it sound like a 5minute job when i write it out like that... This is for Sony a-mount of course, if it were Canon EOS, it would have been less destructive.



Jan 12, 2011 at 04:08 PM
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p.25 #17 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
thanks, which MD 50/1.4 did you get? there are 49mm and 55mm filter thread versions with slightly different optics. both are convertible though one might be a more difficult conversion than the other or more prone to mirror hanging (don't remember).


Got the 49mm thread. In unconvertable case, I planned to rev mount it for macro shots
...before I actually convert my 20D to Minolta mount...



Jan 12, 2011 at 07:54 PM
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p.25 #18 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Krosavcheg wrote:
Got the 49mm thread. In unconvertable case, I planned to rev mount it for macro shots
...before I actually convert my 20D to Minolta mount...


all lenses are convertible, just depends how much trouble you're willing to put in.

ricardovaste - thanks, i thought i remembered hearing that one was a pain. good to know what it entails as i'm thinking of getting a sony dslr at some point in the indeterminate future.

Grenache wrote:
Few shots from a farm with 58/1.2. Lots of great relics to be discovered amidst the barbed wire, cow pies, poison ivy, and tall grasses.

Jim


great variety, i really like the color on that first one.



Jan 14, 2011 at 12:00 AM
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p.25 #19 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


I hope you'll all forgive my intrusion into this thread as I don't measure up to the owners of any of the fine samples posted herein, but I'm still rather unsure about my recently acquired 58/1.2. I know the model is excellent in general, but there are still good and bad (relative term) copies. I'd love some advice about evaluating mine that doesn't involve buying up every copy I can find and reselling all but the best. Any ideas? How do you know you've found the one?

The only physical anomaly (flaw?) I can find is that the front part of the lens (that which includes the focus ring) can be tilted back and forth ever so slightly (not any amount that can be measured, just enough to make a tiny rattle). A 58/1.4 I've handled doesn't seem to do this. Other than that, there's the requisite dust inside and some yellowing from the radioactive decay.

But enough talk. Here are a couple quick shots I just took while getting my caffeine fix:

f2.8
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_R60Bryld19o/TS__vH0QvSI/AAAAAAAAAag/NCBaJfhpTfk/s720/Rokkor-Coffee-2.8.jpg


100% Crop
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_R60Bryld19o/TS__vbI3tCI/AAAAAAAAAak/04hCbFXZU_4/s720/Rokkor-Coffee-2.8-Crop.jpg


f2.0
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_R60Bryld19o/TS__vVUZ5HI/AAAAAAAAAao/BYFN4lShlvc/s720/Rokkor-Coffee-2.0.jpg


100% Crop
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_R60Bryld19o/TS__vafOqTI/AAAAAAAAAas/8bJorzGyGwo/s720/Rokkor-Coffee-2.0-Crop.jpg



Jan 14, 2011 at 02:51 AM
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p.25 #20 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Hard to tell from size of the images, but to me, it looks like missed focus: letter at bottom of image looks sharper than the center of the image where you showed the 100% crops.

Might need to adjust your viewfinder diopter and practice the manual focusing. With a wide aperture lens, that takes some getting used to but you'll get there.



Jan 14, 2011 at 09:38 AM
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