KatieInTexas wrote:
So I have decided that I am madly in love with the CV 35 1.2. I am trying to find my way with the 50 1.5; but it's a stretch for me. I have always liked the 28 1.9 ... I also have the 15; which I mainly got to use on the Fuji X Pro, when I had it (as a 21). Since I REALLY like 21, I'm thinking I need one. Think I'll sell the 15 and get a 21, making a 21-28-35-50-90 kit. Is that too crammed? Also, which 21 would I like best, the new CV 21 1.8 or the ZM biogon 21 2.8?
Some tonight with the 35 ... I went out looking for a sidewalk 3-D chalk artist that was supposed to be in town, but didn't find her. Dying to use the camera, so I turn to my home. What's new....Show more →
The second shot is very beautiful!
As for the lenses I would personally feel undecided between the 28 and 35, so I would sell one of them, though there are members over here who own more than 10 50mm lenses so to each his own
Now the ZM 21 is obviously the better performer and would be my choice, if you can live with f/2.8. The CV is no slouch though, as proven by Ron and Joseph.
Allen, I enjoy the sets you posted! Very nice works.
Katie, The last two picture posted just beautiful. You are a truly photographer, these photos will bring wonderful memory later. Don't listen Edward, he is hardcore Zeiss fans I will get VC21f1.8, 21 biogon is a great lens, but from Ron's review(check his review on his website, use his link if you buy new ), you are not missing much but gain more than 1 stop which is significant versatile for your shooting style. Based on what I see your work, 50 I will get sonnar if can't be 50lux ASPH. (Leica lens is overpriced )
Some 50lux ASPH BW at f1.4 from Hawaii. I am playing the mood (color version later )
Katie, no. 2 for me, the mood is great! Mkaes me want to chill and see a movie on my apple tv
Allen last one for me, don't cross that line!
Joakim last one for me, don't wake up the spiders!
I need to use my Mono and Nocti, it's been sitting in the closet for almost 2 months , been using af mostly lately, really missing the technique of using the leica's! I'll be back soon
Zhangyue, really love the first shot. Very moody! I admit to being a Zeiss hardcore fan, but yeah, according to Katie's low light shooting style, the CV would be the better choice!
Katie, I would add the ZM25 too a the list of possible options as well, since they are close, a 28mm and 35mm usually don't both end up in my bag at the same time, but there's no reason not to own both
Haven't shot much lately. Took the camera out with a VC35/1.2 today just so I don't forget how to use it
Lately I've been looking for another set of lens starting with a 50mm that have a more classic rendering and a good dose of SA. Not quite sure where to start though. Have owned the ZM50 Sonar in the past but never really fell in love with it. Maybe should try an old nikor or canon rf lens? Suggestions are more than welcomed.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Zhangyue, really love the first shot. Very moody! I admit to being a Zeiss hardcore fan, but yeah, according to Katie's low light shooting style, the CV would be the better choice!
Allen, you are killing me with the MM shots. Spectacular ... and I had forgotten that you can actually use filters with that camera that DO SOMETHING! I'm in the process of selling most of my large filters as I sold my Mamiya 7 setup and my film SLRs, so all my colored filters just sit dormant now. Love me some red filter landscapes!
Back to my lens issue ... I actually do find the 28 and the 35 close, BUT, the 28 is smaller, lighter and chrome; where the 35 is bigger, heavier and black. I know, I know ... but really, I HAVE taken the 28 out just because I thought the 35 on there would be annoyingly heavy for the night! Anyway, thanks all for the advice. I really would probably end up (like a few of you pointed out!) needed that extra light the 1.8 would give me from the CV. Also, since I own ALL CV lenses now, it would fit in nicely with the family.
So last 21 question for now: do you all use external viewfinders (not applicable to the LV folks, I guess) or guesstimate? The widest framelines on the M9 are 28, right? So I would be guessing pretty wildly ...
Jabberwokt - I know "not alot" about the 50mm lenses. It's not my focal length; but I do know that the escalator shot with the 35mm you posted is gorgeous!
Zhangyue - I have finally learned to spell your name without having to look at your post. I can't wait to see the color versions of these - although the soft B&W look wonderful too. The grain adds some mood to the composition, too.
haven't looked into this thread for a wile, because I didn't had my head free. I am fighting right know with my bad right shoulder and visit some doctor's. To shorten the story...I will need a shoulder surgery which I want to do in April 2014, until then I have to bite on my teeth. Since I am a bit depressed about that, I got the Super-Elmar 3.4/21 as a sweet ;-). As most of you already know, I was fighting a long time if I should get a 21 Lux, but decided to stay small, light as possible with the best image quality. I know already there will be quite some moments where I wish I had a faster lens, but you just cant have it all. I also borrowed until monday evening a MM and went yesterday and today biking with the dog together. We drove into two long valleys in the Karwendel and it is just awesome how my dogs runs...just like crazy!
katie, I didn't bought the view finder, want to try at first if I can skip this with some experience. For my landscape motives I think it will work....they are patient:-)
I never bothered with anything wider then 28 on my M9 and M9P.. On the M240 I can use live view or EVF so I have a 21 SEM. I feel however that the best focal length is 50 for the M system.
With that said I've never really liked any of the many voigtlander lenses I've owned.. They almost all have this specific bokeh issue that's hard to explain, but something I don't like.. This isn't just limited to the V lenses.. Some leica lenses have it too *cough* 35cron-asph *cough* and also Zeus lenses..
A few forum members seem to be able to coax there lenses into performing better then I could ever imagine.. But it's just something I can't seem to do. However the 21 wasn't a hard lens to love, it did its job for the brief amount of time I had (about two weeks) and I only sold it due to the hassle of wide angles and range finders.
Btw for framing I guessed or pointed and hoped for the best.. A horrible way to shoot buildings ect. But a fun way to shoot fast moving street scenes. So really a VF is only necessary if u intend to be technical with your compositions.
Muc_marlin - great shots!
Airfrogusmc - nice!
Jabberwockt -
I was reading many times that there are pink or green corners with wide angles on digital Leica's, therefore I made with my M9-P, which has the actual firmware, a test picture.
Well, not perfect but might be in real world shooting not a big deal? The first snow in the alps has already fallen, I will see.
Allen - Great work as usual. You capture some really neat moments in time which I wouldn't have even noticed.
Ryan - I really like that Canon 100/2. Your daughter is a RF enthusiast already!
Mike - Very nice! Looking forward to more.
Joakim - That 50lux looks so nice. Rendering is quite special with that lens...
Katie - Nice, relaxing shots. That CV35 is such a nice lens. I would have kept mine but I felt (at the time) it was too big on an M body. I have seen a few good samples from the CV21/4 but I personally think it is a bit overatted. It is sooo small though and that is what people seem to gravitate towards. I suppose pretty good value but I would try some other options to see how they compare.
Michael - Very smooth processing. I like the grain...