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p.438 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Not a problem vovkinson - I wouldn't worry about it too much. I had way, way more headaches with Canon and the Mark III (I have two bodies), each going in several times for the AF fix and other problems. Leica USA needs to implement a priority/rush service option like they have in Germany, where you can pay for either an express (2 day) or fast (5 day) turnaround, rather than wait 2-3 weeks. If you're trying to use the M9 on a professional basis, it's difficult to send it off for an undetermined time period. In this respect Leica could learn something from Canon and Nikon's professional services.

Joe, yes the blackout is also a bit of a pain. I think a lot of people have a difficult time comprehending just how fast rangefinder focusing can be. It's different, for sure. With the 5N, and to a slightly lesser degree with the GXR, I find I spend way more time fine tuning focus in magnified assist mode, perhaps because it's available, than I ever do fiddling with focus on the M9. At least with the GXR, the lenses focus properly to infinity and you can guestimate focus pretty well using the lens's focusing scale, like when using the M9.



Feb 20, 2012 at 08:57 PM
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p.438 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Ron, thanks I have been interested in your venture with the GXR, and your feelings. I do know if I pick up another camera such as the NEX 5N, I really don't find it easy to navigate and just take shots. I do have on order the Fuji XPro 1, but I think I will defer for now, until it all the hype stacks up.

It is so much easier just to pick up the M9 now for everything, rather than relearning a new workflow. I agree you both, Joe and Ron, that the M9 after immersing myself in total manual mode, turns out to be faster in a lot of instances than using a DSLR. Obviously a place for all gear and applications, but it is just great how the M9 gets out of your way and takes shots!

Gary, love that first shot. Maybe an IR issue with the sensor? With the roll off in focus, it is not noticeable all IMO



Feb 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM
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p.438 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


It's difficult to explain but with the M9 (and I guess any M), the rangefinder patch is a significant strength and weakness of the focusing system. It's large enough to provide enough info to achieve focus, but not so large as to distract from the overall image. Therefore, it's very easy to look past it and actually forget about it while composing.

There is actually depth to the scene as you look at it through the M viewfinder. It's a subtle difference from SLRs and EVFs where you're looking at a 2D image projected on a focusing screen or formed on an electronic display. So for me, I find myself studying this 2D image, worrying about good focus, often at the expense of looking at the actual content of the image... I guess it's a slight feeling of disconnect. One could argue AF eliminates that need for SLRs and most mirrorless options, but I would counter that AF is actually the reason I decided to try the M9. To be specific, AF inconsistency. What I've traded is occasional/random AF inconsistency with rangefinder MF consistency, though that consistency could also mean consistently out of focus images if I haven't focused correctly. But, for the most part, especially with wider lenses, I'm finding much better, more consistent focus from the rangefinder.

Gary: Nice set! Did you add any highlight recovery and/or pull back the luminosity values for blue, cyan or purple? Lowering the luminosity values can do some funky things if taken too far. Do you see this on the original high-res files too? I wonder if it's some sort of compression issue from downsizing the files or the hosting of the file on FM...



Feb 20, 2012 at 10:53 PM
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p.438 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks guys. I forgot to dial in some +exp due to the bright snow and sunny conditions. As such, I had to boost the exposure about 1.5 stops in PP. This may have had some sort of negative impact on the file. Also - can someone please remind me - is it better to slightly overexpose or underexpose M8 images? I read about this on FM at some point but could not find where...


Feb 20, 2012 at 11:28 PM
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p.438 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Gary, with the M9's, you don't want to blow the highlights, as there is a lot of latitude within the shadows. Blown highlights should be avoided. Then yet again, there is the suggestion for low light shots is to expose to the right, but I feel it is more important just to expose carefully. Personally I tend to be very careful with highlights. With the M8's, I am not so sure

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Feb 21, 2012 at 12:11 AM
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p.438 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


charles.K wrote:
Shots with the 24 Lux from the other evening Preparations for the surf competition.


Charles, nice B&W treatment on these. I'm anxiously awaiting a 28mm now, excited to try my luck with a wider FL.

I'm not a surfer, but the beach looks a bit rugged... I assume the competitors know how to fall without getting ground to bits ;-)



Feb 21, 2012 at 12:20 AM
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p.438 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


After a long weekend here, I have a lot to catch up.

Seekuh, nice set of SX24/35/50, I like the fish and beach shots.
Singletrack, 2nd fish shot are very interesting.
Charles, the first shot in pg377 has really nice color. The first beach shot in this pg are excellent, that construction drawing my eye with good contrast from near ground darkness and grey cloud in the background. I also like the family shot with girl’s eyes ‘look at me’ from your Bali shots.
Denoir, I like the whole set. 2nd is colorful and simple. 3rd has nice geometry and pattern with good sharpness. and I can’t help staring your 3rd just after D800E moire thread
Boris, Nice swan set. I like the first and 3rd. Now, 50LX can be called a swan lens. (luka does that too) It really show smooth transition from in and out of focus.
Lmitch6, welcome to thread. Good ‘first frame’
Dan, nice set of lx and 105 Nikkor. The night shots are stunning.
Kkcsm, Nice portrait of your daughter.
AshNZ, whole set are nice with vivid color and lighting.
Dgenx24, Another wonderful set, I like 2nd the best.
Joakim, your hk market shot reminder me my time in China.
Gary, the last shot is nice. I like the simplicity.
Ron, Your post always contributes with good information. Look forward to see your work once your M9 come back. B.T.W, why you send your leica to Germany, I thought we have service center here in US?? Are you in Germany now? (I guess you are from your post) How long I should expecting a service without any bump/hit if the body works just fine right now?
As for NEX and GXR or Fiji Pro, I don’t know if it is just me: If I don’t have Leica, I will get them. With M9 on hand, I really have no passion to use them with my limited shooting time available. They are cheaper, but it will be waste without using them. I had NEX-c3, it is offer me experience of shooting in different angle with articulated LCD, (Leica can do that shooting from hip ‘blindly’) but I am really not big fun of it in terms of handling so that I put it on bay before its resale value drop like a M9
Don’t get me wrong, anything can make art/good foto in good photographer’s hand. I am purely gear talk now.




Feb 21, 2012 at 01:58 PM
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p.438 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks for all the comments. Here are some from past weekend.
Start with flower and some shots during waiting for my daughter’s dance class finish. All sonar, first is wide open, rest are f4-f8.





From outside of restaurant.





three more


















Feb 21, 2012 at 01:59 PM
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p.438 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Wonderful shots Charles, Zhangyue and Joakim. sorry, I didn't go through the older pages yet.

Not much time for photography these days, but I managed to go to Munich last weekend. A quick trip to the BMW Welt and managed to sneak by some of the more interesting stores around Odeonsplatz

All SX 50

@ the BMW Welt













Leica Store, Munich, Germany









Feb 21, 2012 at 06:46 PM
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p.438 #10 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Zhangyue and Ajay, thanks
Zhangyue, excellent set of images! Love #2, very interesting composition and timing
With respect, to servicing and calibrations, this may never be an issue if the M9 works with your lenses. It is usually only an issue, as your lens collection grows
I am with you too on the M9's, it is easy to look at the greener grass in the other camps, but for now I am content with taking shots, and trying not to be tempted by all these new toys!!
Ajay, very nice set too! I do like the shot of the old bike



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p.438 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks Charles, Dan, Joe & zhangyue

Dan, very nice set - my favorite is the parrot shot.

Ash, nice set with the 28 Cron. I long for temperatures and scenery such as those in your shots. Stockholm in February is no fun.

Charles, great shots. My favorite is the shot of the stairs on the beach

Zhangyue, nice shots with the Sonnar! I particularly like the restaurant shot.

Ajay, nice set from BMW Welt.

From today:





































And to finish things off, my first duck shot of the year! :








Feb 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM
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p.438 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Luka - the hi-vis and the tree are very nice.
Charles - I also like the stairs shot
degenx24 - I love the lighting in your NYC shots, it makes me want to reprocess mine


A few more BVI shots: (ignore the dirty sensor - oops)

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7






Lucky me


Still very unhappy with my PP - so much to learn! And I'm about 4000 shots with the M8 (my first rangefinder) and I feel like a need 50,000 more to get the hang of it...


Ash



Feb 21, 2012 at 08:08 PM
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p.438 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Very nice Michael with the Sonnar - really like the first two a lot.
Ajay - I know that place as I guess a couple others here on this thread do as well. Did you go in the store? Very nice from BMW Welt.
Luka, really like the first four and find the fourth one quite intriguing.
Ash, again, very nice!! What are you unhappy about with your processing?

zhangyue wrote:
Ron, Your post always contributes with good information. Look forward to see your work once your M9 come back. B.T.W, why you send your leica to Germany, I thought we have service center here in US?? Are you in Germany now? (I guess you are from your post) How long I should expecting a service without any bump/hit if the body works just fine right now?
As for NEX and GXR or Fiji Pro, I don’t know if it is just me: If I don’t have Leica, I will get them. With M9 on hand, I really have no passion to
...Show more

Don't worry about your gear if it's working fine. 2-3 weeks for Leica USA is probably similar turnaround to what you would get from Nikon USA for non-NPS service.

I'm in Germany a few times a year and during my last visit I had Leica Germany calibrate the M9 with the 50 Lux, but unfortunately they didn't get it quite right and it threw off all my other lenses as a result. I had it done in Germany because Leica offers 2-day express or 5-day fast service options for the Euro zone at an additional fee, which Leica USA does not, to my knowledge. After the first service issue, Leica Germany suggested I could instead send the equipment to Leica USA, but because I use the camera for some of my work, it's difficult to be without it and my small Leica lens collection for a few weeks turnaround from Leica USA. There is also the matter of the cost of shipping over $15K replacement value in equipment from Canada to the USA. So it's actually worthwhile, at least for me in this case, to wait until I'm back in Germany to take advantage of the expedited service options. The issue wasn't to the point where the equipment was unusable. While the focus was off with certain lenses, I just needed to offset the rangefinder focus a specific amount for each lens to get correct focus, which I was able to determine pretty quickly with some test photos with the camera on a tripod. And because I primarily use the M9 with 50mm and wider, and often stopped down a bit, there is some leeway.

As for the NEX, GXR, XP1... They're good cameras. I'm very happy with images from the GXR in a general sense, but there is something different about the files from the M9. It's probably mostly due to the full frame sensor and the shallower depth of field for equivalent framing. And, as Luka has mentioned before, with APS-C you crop out the 'bad' outer image circle, but also crop out a lot of the character of those lenses... I plan to continue to use the GXR in conjunction with the M9 when it offers an advantage, such as silent shutter release, smaller size, etc.., but find the M9 a simpler, faster, more intuitive camera to use for the subject matter I photograph with it.



Feb 21, 2012 at 08:23 PM
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p.438 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Ajay, love the first two. and last one is the place I am really interested to check
Luka, I like the 1st, 2nd and last one. Like the way you find nature pattern in everyday life.
Ash, your PP looks very good to me. Another nice set.

As for the NEX, GXR, XP1... They're good cameras. I'm very happy with images from the GXR in a general sense, but there is something different about the files from the M9. It's probably mostly due to the full frame sensor and the shallower depth of field for equivalent framing. And, as Luka has mentioned before, with APS-C you crop out the 'bad' outer image circle, but also crop out a lot of the character of those lenses... I plan to continue to use the GXR in conjunction with the M9 when it offers an advantage, such as silent shutter release,
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Ron, thanks for feedback about service.
I agree with they are very good camera. and price/performance ratio is way higher than here For me, the difficulty is find time to be able to take foto, with such a limited time, I feagured I better simplify my setup. When I am going out, I have to pick which one to go with me: D700, M9 or NEX. The choice is became clear as I can't put a $7000 camera in home collect dust. If I need a 2nd body for m lens, it would be either one of these or another M. But for me, this is just a hobby, and I have already indulge myself too much.


With respect, to servicing and calibrations, this may never be an issue if the M9 works with your lenses. It is usually only an issue, as your lens collection grows


My sonnar is not problem free wide open, but I know how to compensate it with experience. CV35 is good so far. I don't use my other VC lens as much. they will replaced with either Zeiss or leica later. but I just bought a 90 elmarit and a 50 cron v2. I guess my nightmare start

I wouldn't worry this too much for the time being and just want enjoy taking foto as much as I can.

Here are some from Santa Cruz boardwalk. It is a theme park for kids. I snap some shots. All with VC28f2.













My son (in the middle) My daughter (left) and my wife (right)








Feb 21, 2012 at 08:59 PM
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p.438 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Luka and Ash, thank you
Luka, great set of images! Love that first shot, the very simple composition and tones throughout the wall.
Ash, really nice series! Excellent PP'ing too Love the mood and feeling of #1.
Michael, another very nice set of images. Favourite is #1. Excellent B&W conversions

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Feb 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM
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p.438 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Charles, Kkcsm, thanks.
kkcsm, My favorite is 2nd. VC28f2 looks pretty good. small and decent sharp. I may just keep it for a while before I can get hold of 28mm Leica.



Feb 22, 2012 at 01:22 AM
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p.438 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


kkcsm, nice set! #2 is my favourite too


Feb 22, 2012 at 06:42 AM
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(heavily cropped)


Canon + Zeiss and NEX + Leica versions of the same scene:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/489#10371899
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/969329/201#10371930



Feb 23, 2012 at 07:22 AM
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p.438 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread



L1010706

Came back from the gym and found a crew of chinese exchange students making dumplings in our kitchen, nice surprise! Had flashbacks from my time in Hong Kong. Unfortunately I was shaking so badly it was hard to take photos. And yes, the dumplings were great. And so much fun to do 'em.

M8, ZM35/2



Feb 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM
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p.438 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Luka, very nice comparison shots! In your series, I prefer the shot with the 100MP
Jona, nice capture!
Joakim, I really the first shot! Nicely captured in the harsh lighting



Feb 23, 2012 at 08:03 PM
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