zhangyue wrote:
BTW, question for people to discuss in this thread:
How is the CCD sensor compare to your Nikon and Canon's offer in your opinion? I always feel color need to be tweaked to looks alright In that sense Canikon's file are much easy to deal with, and no need for tweak color individually.
The hue is very hard to tweak usually and I don't want to touch it if it is unnecessary. I almost can see its signature (yellowish, Greyish, greenish, reddish) from its pictures showing anywhere. KR's Yosemite pic (don't laugh, just want pick some easy find ones to illustrat) even in THORSTEN OVERGAARD's leica review, even though Lots of pictures I love but some of his picture suffered as well)
I definitely see some special character from its AA free CCD sensor. Detail with noise create a special feeling sometimes but not always and it is very good for BW picture. Correct exposure will help in some sense but is that telling me that Dynamic range lacking? The shadow can be pull back a lot but also some noise and
artificial color.....
Is that means Canikon have done a lot of more homework to stabilize the sensor performance and make accurate color in house than leica does? Leica file require its shooter do all the color/hue/saturation INDIVIDUALLY
Just want throw a topic to discuss in this thread if people don't mind.
I use my Lecia M9 together with a canon 5DII for wedding photography. All my files I run through LR and then some dodge and burning in photoshop. I start with setting white balance(which differs a lot between the cameras), then I usually adjust the exposure a bit. Bring the file into photoshop and ad some contrast curve(which also can be done in LL). Most of the time this treatment is enough. Sometimes I ad a bit crossprocessing by tweaking the curves in the individual colors to give a certain "look".
What I noticed is that some lightbulbs can give a green tone to the M9 images, often this can be fixed by correcting white balance. More problematic is when you have mixed lighting conditions. In those situations I sometimes blend two different adjustments of wb together.
In comparison to the canon the leica give beautiful skin color.
Zhangyue, nice flower shots and B&W
Charles, I see that you are still loving the 75Lux Love how this lens renders on those excellent shots.
Kelly, nice set!
I tried Thorsten's tip on WB@3200k and I like it. Thanks for the tip Charles!
Joe, nice temple shots. especially that 2nd one.
Zhangyue, Nice B&Ws of your kids. I like the one with both your children doing their own thing.
Charles, still rocking the 75 lux. Please send some of that warmth to Europe
Seekuh, I bet the 2nd one has tremendous detail in large. Lovely.
Joe and Ajay, thank you
kkcsm, congrats on your new M9 Very nice set!
Hilmar, nice shots! I really like using the ND filter on the 50 and 75 Lux during the day, to soften the harsh lighting
Zhangyue, Great images, I especially love the ones of your kids. Do you remember the lens and aperture of #6 (your son walking toward you?) Did you focus on him while he was walking? Or had you prefocused and waited until he walked into the zone?
charles.K wrote:
zhangyue, these shots are superb! I particularly like #1, 5 and 7
I am completely with you on getting the right exposure. The M9 does not do well with blown highlights, yet the shadows have a lot of latitude to work with. There is a lot of discussion of exposing to the right, but IMO I think it is good to mindful of it, but getting the right exposure is more important. Also as Ron, has suggested, the quality of lighting for low light is more important than just the ISO setting.
Luka's previous work and posts on downsizing are amazingly instructive and helpful. There is great stuff previously posted with various settings outlined by Luka.
In Lab mode, there is a whole world of adjustments that are available that do work very differently. These can simplified into scripts, so there does not have to be much time spent in front of the computer.
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Thanks for the comment! I will dig those threads and learn something out of it mardag wrote:
Hi,
I use my Lecia M9 together with a canon 5DII for wedding photography. All my files I run through LR and then some dodge and burning in photoshop. I start with setting white balance(which differs a lot between the cameras), then I usually adjust the exposure a bit. Bring the file into photoshop and ad some contrast curve(which also can be done in LL). Most of the time this treatment is enough. Sometimes I ad a bit crossprocessing by tweaking the curves in the individual colors to give a certain "look".
What I noticed is that some lightbulbs can give a green tone to the M9 images, often this can be fixed by correcting white balance. More problematic is when you have mixed lighting conditions. In those situations I sometimes blend two different adjustments of wb together.
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Thanks for the feedback I never use Photoshop, bought a copy, and leave it cold. I am pretty much relying on LR now. I should shoot less and put more effort to individual image to improve PP skill in Photoshop.
Joe, Ajay, kkcsm, Thanks for the comment.
Kkcsm, that shot is VC35 at wide open. For shot like this distance, wide open is not that much of difficult. Actually, I think this is the area RF is better than DSLR. My D700 usually struggled at longer distance wide open with focus confirmation for ZF at low light. I can’t rely on my eyes on this case either.
But, once subject get close, anyone moving toward you will be really difficult to catch. With experience chasing kids with RF, I am sure will get better and better
Joakim, very nice PP'ing. The first shot seems to have brought the subtle colour tones out better in Lab mode.
Martin, really nice composition and textures!
Joe, love the layering in the composition of your shot
zhangyue wrote:
kkcsm: Welcome to the thread. Though I am new here too 3rd night shot is my favorite. Which lens you used?
Zhangyue, all of the shots were M9 with the 50 Cron. The night shot was f2 @1/25 ISO1600. I seem to be able to hand hold this at much lower shutter speeds than my 1D MKIV. Though maybe I just was lucky...
Martin, I love Slush and Grime! This is what I mean by developing an eye for good shots. I doubt it would have occurred to me to snap Slush. I have a feeling I pass up good opportunities daily and just don't see them.
kkcsm: you have to look beyond the slush and see the patterns, etc. I find it interesting to revisit locations throughout the year. Changes in weather, seasons, light, my mood, etc. often reveal an aspect I hadn't noticed previously. It might be one of the reasons why travel is so conducive to photography because it presents an unkown location, which forces one to assess it with fresh eyes rather than ignoring it as part of the daily routine. But the challenge I often face when traveling is sensory overload and filtering through all of the 'noise' to find images that are interesting to me.
Nice capture Joe!
Love the set Martin!
Joakim - there does seem to be a difference... a bit more vibrancy?
Michael, great job with all the photos on the previous page!
The dreaded centerfold issue? But it doesn't look like what I would expect it to look like, based on the few times I've seen it in my M9 images. It doesn't seem to extend from top to bottom of the frame.
The left side of the artifact is a few pixels off from being dead center, which might be too coincidental...
Could it be something physical by one of the buildings, like an old style TV antenna tower or flag pole? The width of the artifact is close to the width of the OOF speculars at the same distance, which would imply to me that it's something physical at about the same distance from the camera...
Kelly, that line is strange. Try testing it in other situations, over and underexposing severely and see if it comes up again? Did you take a look at the the sensor, lens and possibly the UV filter?
In that sense Canikon's file are much easy to deal with, and no need for tweak color individually.
Love how this lens renders on those excellent shots.
