Bobu wrote:
My main problem is, that I can not trust the framelines in the viewfinder. Often the top of a tree or the feet of a person were missing in an image although I'm pretty sure, that they were within the viewfinder frames at the moment I took the picture.
That would indicate that the frames are too tight. In fact, they are too loose (in the sense that if you frame exactly to the lines, you get a little extra). You need to spend some time practicing, probably. Using framelines takes time to get used to. If you otherwise get along with the M8, you might consider trading up to an M8u or M8.2. The framelines are very tight and exact. I was very happy to upgrade mine.
I have here an old thread where I tested the accuracy of the framelines:
carstenw wrote:
That would indicate that the frames are too tight. In fact, they are too loose (in the sense that if you frame exactly to the lines, you get a little extra). You need to spend some time practicing, probably. Using framelines takes time to get used to. If you otherwise get along with the M8, you might consider trading up to an M8u or M8.2. The framelines are very tight and exact. I was very happy to upgrade mine.
I have here an old thread where I tested the accuracy of the framelines:
Thanks Carsten for the link. Since I'm not registered yet in this forum I can't see the images. But the description of photoarne sounds pretty similar to my experience: "I've made a somewhat similar test using the 25 mm Zeiss Biogon to see how the 24 mm framelines fit. [...] First at 3,8 m [...] As can be seen, even at this relatively close distance and with a slightly longer focal length, the M8 still crops the image. [...] Next at 1m. [...]. On the whole the image is still outside the frameline, but due to the asymmetry, the lower part will be cropped slightly."
Thank you Joakim! I love the rendering of #1 with the 90 Elmarit. Great shots of the ducks, competition for Luka Very nice shots with 50 Lux. I think Ryan is a firm advocate for the 50 Lux too
Some thoughts about the 90 Elmarit so far:
- Using a 90mm lens on a M9 takes some practice, it's more sensitive to camera shake and I need to be more careful to make sure I have focused correctly.
- Not really specific to this lens and camera but the 85-100 mm range is focal length I like and it makes a good complement to 50 mm.
- As can be seen in my bench photo above the Elmarit has a very nice rendering, at least when the light is right.
A more strange observation is that I miss that the lens doesn't have a focus tab like my other lenses, it is strange in the sense how quickly I have gotten accustomed to using a focus tab and that it has become an integral part in how I focus and also steady my camera.
Regarding the 50 Lux, it is a simply a fantastic performer that is also very fun to use.
Joakim, the 50 Lux is a magic lens! The 90 Elmarit is an excellent lens too! I have been fortunate that my well traveled copy is very precise, and it is as easy to focus as the 50 Lux.
OH MAN... this thread is getting me. I so want to sell my whole Nikon bag and my M8u with 35 cron ASPH and go for a M9 with 35 summilux. You guys are killing meeeeeeeeee
Tobin28 wrote:
OH MAN... this thread is getting me. I so want to sell my whole Nikon bag and my M8u with 35 cron ASPH and go for a M9 with 35 summilux. You guys are killing meeeeeeeeee
Join the club, I've been pushed and pushed for flipping months now and I just transferred some funds, but now I'm trying to talk myself out of it. I'm sure I am far too horrible to possibly manual focus for everything, that's my saving grace
carsten - you moved to an m9 though right?
I'm still trying to decide if I just go RF and make it work for everything.. or if I really need to hang on to the 7d.. maybe I can use the gf1 when I need af (usually in good light)..it's worth nothing second hand anyway.. may as well repurpose it!
I got the M9 2 days ago, and I am already thinking of letting more of my other gear go. Partyly to pay for M9, partly to move a different direction.
Thankd Charles, I thought it was kind of cool I caught the young lady jogger just before she went back into the light. Honest, I was hunting focus before t hat point, lol.
h00ligan wrote:
I'm still trying to decide if I just go RF and make it work for everything.. or if I really need to hang on to the 7d.. maybe I can use the gf1 when I need af (usually in good light)..it's worth nothing second hand anyway.. may as well repurpose it!
I'd suggest keeping the 7D and a 70-200 (or similar) until you're sure. Anything 50/75 and wider will be no problem with the M