Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1696 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
dancook wrote:
Been a while since I've been out to do some Street with the Q2, really fancy myself a M10M now...
Dan, that is a very fine set of street shots and also an example of excellent post-processing.
Rob
Been a while since I've been out to do some Street with the Q2, really fancy myself a M10M now...
Dan, that is a very fine set of street shots and also an example of excellent post-processing.
Rob
Feb 02, 2020 at 12:12 PM
p.1696 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 200 | f/4.0 | 1/2000 sec
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
_____________________
Frog Leaping photobook
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
_____________________
Frog Leaping photobook
Feb 02, 2020 at 06:44 PM
p.1696 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Patterns and Textures
M10M
135 APO
Lux 50
APO 90
M10M
135 APO
Lux 50
APO 90
Feb 02, 2020 at 08:38 PM
p.1696 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
airfrogusmc wrote:
So I am really curious so far what are your early impressions of the M10M?
A few more findings and impressions. I was out with it for about 5 hours yesterday and a bright sunny day after a fresh snowfall.
The battery as mentioned previously lasted about 150 shots with a lot of LiveView and EVF use. Yesterday it lasted about 170 shots.
I never noticed or paid any attention to it other than when I took it out of the box, the thumb rest. It is a nice addition I found my thumb was comfortably rested there, never took notice until yesterday it was so natural for me, find it holds much nicer in my hands than the M246.
I once again experienced the OVF and EVF giving different metering indications. It seems to occur on a very bright scene with the sun just off to the right of the lens and when the shutter is at 1/3000 of a second. I am thinking that some extra light is coming through Viewfinder window causing that to occur. Other than that situation I find that both the OVF and EVF do give the same metering.
I have live view and EVF turned onto Auto and it will change the brightness as expected but surprisingly even when I am in the middle of a shot. Not an issue, just caught me off guard the couple of times I was shooting through the EVF when the scene brightened up considerably, my first thought was I was overexposed but I wasn't.
The temperatures were slightly below freezing and I noticed the OVF fogs up easier from my breath than the M246. On the M246 I quickly would switch viewing between EVF and OVF never had an issue, but the M10 Monochrom I had it fog over at least 4 times. I am sure it won't do that if only using OVF but was frustrating when it occurred.
I once again experienced the moving of the focus point for live view and EVF I am going to have to go through the manual to find out how I managed to change it without knowing as I tend not to touch the touch screen. I downloaded the full manual from Leica and a quick look through there are a lot of new features. Though most of these features only apply to the touchscreen, live view and EVF. Several remind me of Dslr features which doesn't play a role in traditional rangefinder shooting.
The shutter is extremely quiet and most of the time I do not even notice the sound of it. Street shooters coming from a M243 or M246 will appreciate this.
So I am really curious so far what are your early impressions of the M10M?
A few more findings and impressions. I was out with it for about 5 hours yesterday and a bright sunny day after a fresh snowfall.
The battery as mentioned previously lasted about 150 shots with a lot of LiveView and EVF use. Yesterday it lasted about 170 shots.
I never noticed or paid any attention to it other than when I took it out of the box, the thumb rest. It is a nice addition I found my thumb was comfortably rested there, never took notice until yesterday it was so natural for me, find it holds much nicer in my hands than the M246.
I once again experienced the OVF and EVF giving different metering indications. It seems to occur on a very bright scene with the sun just off to the right of the lens and when the shutter is at 1/3000 of a second. I am thinking that some extra light is coming through Viewfinder window causing that to occur. Other than that situation I find that both the OVF and EVF do give the same metering.
I have live view and EVF turned onto Auto and it will change the brightness as expected but surprisingly even when I am in the middle of a shot. Not an issue, just caught me off guard the couple of times I was shooting through the EVF when the scene brightened up considerably, my first thought was I was overexposed but I wasn't.
The temperatures were slightly below freezing and I noticed the OVF fogs up easier from my breath than the M246. On the M246 I quickly would switch viewing between EVF and OVF never had an issue, but the M10 Monochrom I had it fog over at least 4 times. I am sure it won't do that if only using OVF but was frustrating when it occurred.
I once again experienced the moving of the focus point for live view and EVF I am going to have to go through the manual to find out how I managed to change it without knowing as I tend not to touch the touch screen. I downloaded the full manual from Leica and a quick look through there are a lot of new features. Though most of these features only apply to the touchscreen, live view and EVF. Several remind me of Dslr features which doesn't play a role in traditional rangefinder shooting.
The shutter is extremely quiet and most of the time I do not even notice the sound of it. Street shooters coming from a M243 or M246 will appreciate this.
Feb 03, 2020 at 11:06 AM
p.1696 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks for comments. For me I never use live view and unless I am on a tripod, which has only been twice, I don't use EVF. As for metering, before I start shooting, I usually meter the bright area I will be shooting in like the brighter or sunny side of the street. Then make an exposure to where the highlights are falling and adust from that. Remeber those setting s. Meter the shady side . Remember that and I don't meter again unless the light changes and even then I can usually get within a half stop from experience without metering.
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Feb 03, 2020 at 12:04 PM
p.1696 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
90APOM SL2
SL290APOM4 by ZHNL, on Flickr
SL290APOM4 by ZHNL, on FlickrFeb 03, 2020 at 01:20 PM
p.1696 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
one more 90APOM SL2
SL290cronAPO by ZHNL, on Flickr
SL290cronAPO by ZHNL, on FlickrFeb 03, 2020 at 01:24 PM
p.1696 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
airfrogusmc wrote:
Thanks for comments. For me I never use EVF and unless I am on a tripod, which has only been twice, I don't use live view. As for metering, before I start shooting, I usually meter the bright area I will be shooting in like the brighter or sunny side of the street. Then make an exposure to where the highlights are falling and adust from that. Remeber those setting s. Meter the shady side . Remember that and I don't meter again unless the light changes and even then I can usually get within a half stop from experience...Show more →
Read through the manual, grabbed the M246 put them side.
Lo and behold the thumb rest has always been there I never noticed it on the M246 as my thumb rested further to the left never coming in contact with the thumb rest. On the smaller M10M it naturally rests on the thumb rest. Amazing how one never takes notice of these little things.
The OVF on the M10 Monochrom is bigger in size thus more area to capture my breath and fogging the OVF.
After consulting the manual most touchscreen/Live View features are nice but I won't use. Many of these features won't add anything to my style/technique of shooting, are too much of hassle to use or distracting.
I will leave Liveview/EVF to critical focusing, critical framing when needed and stick with typical rangefinder shooting through the viewfinder and leave the EVF in the bag. Though that is the beauty of a rangefinder.
I will give your metering technique a try.
I was so used to shooting based on bright sunlight ISO 320 F8 1/1500sec on the M246 I would adjust from there but the early going with the M10M left my images overexposed.
Thanks for comments. For me I never use EVF and unless I am on a tripod, which has only been twice, I don't use live view. As for metering, before I start shooting, I usually meter the bright area I will be shooting in like the brighter or sunny side of the street. Then make an exposure to where the highlights are falling and adust from that. Remeber those setting s. Meter the shady side . Remember that and I don't meter again unless the light changes and even then I can usually get within a half stop from experience...Show more →
Read through the manual, grabbed the M246 put them side.
Lo and behold the thumb rest has always been there I never noticed it on the M246 as my thumb rested further to the left never coming in contact with the thumb rest. On the smaller M10M it naturally rests on the thumb rest. Amazing how one never takes notice of these little things.
The OVF on the M10 Monochrom is bigger in size thus more area to capture my breath and fogging the OVF.
After consulting the manual most touchscreen/Live View features are nice but I won't use. Many of these features won't add anything to my style/technique of shooting, are too much of hassle to use or distracting.
I will leave Liveview/EVF to critical focusing, critical framing when needed and stick with typical rangefinder shooting through the viewfinder and leave the EVF in the bag. Though that is the beauty of a rangefinder.
I will give your metering technique a try.
I was so used to shooting based on bright sunlight ISO 320 F8 1/1500sec on the M246 I would adjust from there but the early going with the M10M left my images overexposed.
Feb 03, 2020 at 02:46 PM
p.1696 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10M
APO 90
Lux 50
Elmar 24 with Leica Orange filter
APO 90
Lux 50
Elmar 24 with Leica Orange filter
Feb 03, 2020 at 02:50 PM
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p.1696 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
burningheart wrote:
I once again experienced the OVF and EVF giving different metering indications. It seems to occur on a very bright scene with the sun just off to the right of the lens and when the shutter is at 1/3000 of a second. I am thinking that some extra light is coming through Viewfinder window causing that to occur. Other than that situation I find that both the OVF and EVF do give the same metering.
Metering for OVF shooting is through the lens, therefore light entering the viewfinder wouldn't be the cause of metering errors. It's probably to do with how the TTL OVF metering works by reading light reflecting off the shutter blades vs. whatever metering mode you're using in live view/EVF shooting. IIRC, TTL OVF metering is heavily centre weighted. EVF/liveview probably gives you various metering type options.
Feb 03, 2020 at 04:53 PM
p.1696 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 200 | f/11.0 | 1/750 sec
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
BTW, the Winter 2020 issue of The Royal Photographic Society Journal of Contemporary Photography has an article on my Frog Leaping book. You can download the PDF version of this issue here:
https://rps.org/media/k5whqp35/078-winter-journal-2020-for-screen.pdf
Note: FM forum links often don't work and you may have to copy the link to your browser. However, if you use the Empty Caches facility of your browser, the link should work: that is what I find using the Safari browser on the Mac.
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
BTW, the Winter 2020 issue of The Royal Photographic Society Journal of Contemporary Photography has an article on my Frog Leaping book. You can download the PDF version of this issue here:
https://rps.org/media/k5whqp35/078-winter-journal-2020-for-screen.pdf
Note: FM forum links often don't work and you may have to copy the link to your browser. However, if you use the Empty Caches facility of your browser, the link should work: that is what I find using the Safari browser on the Mac.
Feb 03, 2020 at 06:41 PM
p.1696 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
zhangyue wrote:
burningheart, nice set, viewing them in full size must be a great experience
Thanks and it is. The M10M checks off all the boxes as to what I wanted in a Leica Monochrom camera. The detail takes it to a new level.
burningheart, nice set, viewing them in full size must be a great experience
Thanks and it is. The M10M checks off all the boxes as to what I wanted in a Leica Monochrom camera. The detail takes it to a new level.
Feb 04, 2020 at 01:29 AM
p.1696 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
90APOM SL2 Handhold 1/8s now possible
SL290APOM2 by ZHNL, on Flickr
SL290APOM2 by ZHNL, on FlickrFeb 04, 2020 at 11:00 AM
p.1696 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
90APOM Stitched SL2
SL290APOM13stitch by ZHNL, on Flickr
SL290APOM13stitch by ZHNL, on FlickrFeb 04, 2020 at 11:20 AM
p.1696 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 200 | f/4.0 | 1/4000 sec
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
___________________
Frog Leaping photobook
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
___________________
Frog Leaping photobook
Feb 04, 2020 at 06:20 PM
p.1696 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
In addition to all the discussions one finds on the M10 Monochrom, there is also talk about a new M10R: the "R" presumably being for "resolution", which also expected to be 41 MP.
As with the M10M, I'm simply not interested in more resolution and in a ~41MP sensor, either for color or B&W. For both, my M10 is fine, including its high-ISO performance. For example, for the image below, even though it may have less than optimum sharpness (from camera shake) either for color or B&W, the 24 MP files are enough — even if I were to make 100 x 150 cm (40 x 60 inch) prints. Of course, I understand why others do want more resolution.
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 1600 | f/5.6 | 1/60 sec
Chiang Mai
____________________
Frog Leaping photobook
As with the M10M, I'm simply not interested in more resolution and in a ~41MP sensor, either for color or B&W. For both, my M10 is fine, including its high-ISO performance. For example, for the image below, even though it may have less than optimum sharpness (from camera shake) either for color or B&W, the 24 MP files are enough — even if I were to make 100 x 150 cm (40 x 60 inch) prints. Of course, I understand why others do want more resolution.
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 1600 | f/5.6 | 1/60 sec
Chiang Mai
____________________
Frog Leaping photobook
Feb 05, 2020 at 04:24 AM
p.1696 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Hi, Mitch, I understand your view regarding M10M, well reasoned. Many time, we don't need reason for acquire new tool. Really, I don't need any of the tools I have right now to make images I shared here.
I know there is real difference in such a M10m vs others case, but it is just not as high priority as I personally want otherwise I might have bought it. And I think for some, this body could be the reason get into M
90APOM SL2
SL290APOM15 by ZHNL, on Flickr
I know there is real difference in such a M10m vs others case, but it is just not as high priority as I personally want otherwise I might have bought it. And I think for some, this body could be the reason get into M
90APOM SL2
SL290APOM15 by ZHNL, on FlickrFeb 05, 2020 at 01:21 PM