Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1675 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
genji wrote:
The results from the Canon 100/2 LTM are quite an improvement over those from the Tele-Elmar 135/4. It's rather awkward to use however--being such an old design that it doesn't have a double helicoid. Consequently, when one focuses, the aperture ring rotates with the outer lens barrel. Moreover, the focus throw is extremely long: ~315˚ of rotation from 1 meter to infinity.
That is a lot of rotation at least you had the luxury of more light gathering capabilities of a wider aperture vs 135/4.
I will join you on the 135mm focal length front. I located a 135/3.4 APO at a price I liked and ordered it. Looking forward to putting it through the paces once I receive it.
The results from the Canon 100/2 LTM are quite an improvement over those from the Tele-Elmar 135/4. It's rather awkward to use however--being such an old design that it doesn't have a double helicoid. Consequently, when one focuses, the aperture ring rotates with the outer lens barrel. Moreover, the focus throw is extremely long: ~315˚ of rotation from 1 meter to infinity.
That is a lot of rotation at least you had the luxury of more light gathering capabilities of a wider aperture vs 135/4.
I will join you on the 135mm focal length front. I located a 135/3.4 APO at a price I liked and ordered it. Looking forward to putting it through the paces once I receive it.
Sep 24, 2019 at 11:10 AM
p.1675 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
burningheart wrote:
That is a lot of rotation at least you had the luxury of more light gathering capabilities of a wider aperture vs 135/4.
I will join you on the 135mm focal length front. I located a 135/3.4 APO at a price I liked and ordered it. Looking forward to putting it through the paces once I receive it.
I feel sure you'll be very happy with the 135/3.4 APO. Despite its idiosyncratic haptics, I like the Canon 100/2 LTM so much that I purchased its younger sibling, the Canon 85/1.8 LTM, which was also designed by Mukai Jirō and is reputedly even better.
genji wrote
The results from the Canon 100/2 LTM are quite an improvement over those from the Tele-Elmar 135/4. It's rather awkward to use however--being such an old design that it doesn't have a double helicoid. Consequently, when one focuses, the aperture ring rotates with the outer lens barrel. Moreover, the focus throw is extremely long: ~315˚ of rotation from 1 meter to infinity.I will join you on the 135mm focal length front. I located a 135/3.4 APO at a price I liked and ordered it. Looking forward to putting it through the paces once I receive it.
I feel sure you'll be very happy with the 135/3.4 APO. Despite its idiosyncratic haptics, I like the Canon 100/2 LTM so much that I purchased its younger sibling, the Canon 85/1.8 LTM, which was also designed by Mukai Jirō and is reputedly even better.
Sep 24, 2019 at 07:33 PM
p.1675 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
Just wanted to point out that this is an image thread for Leica cameras.Is there a dedicated separate thread for Leica lenses?
Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
joakim wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
At Hudson Yards, New York.Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
Sep 25, 2019 at 07:51 AM
p.1675 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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Sep 25, 2019 at 08:31 AM
p.1675 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
Thank you for pointing out the existence of the other thread. I actually forgot that this thread exists, yet I might have remembered if I would have considered it a "picture thread". I'm not sure if people would look for pictures there, and I think I'm in favor of having threads focused on either pictures or on technical issues.
Just wanted to point out that this is an image thread for Leica cameras.Is there a dedicated separate thread for Leica lenses?Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.
Thank you for pointing out the existence of the other thread. I actually forgot that this thread exists, yet I might have remembered if I would have considered it a "picture thread". I'm not sure if people would look for pictures there, and I think I'm in favor of having threads focused on either pictures or on technical issues.
retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
joakim wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
At Hudson Yards, New York.https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.
Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 AM
p.1675 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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Sep 25, 2019 at 10:26 AM
p.1675 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
I actually would prefer threads structured by mounts. But if that is not going to happen, then maybe you can rename your thread to something that says "pictures", so that people are encouraged to post pictures there. I hope we won't have to deal with too many pictures originating from bad lens/camera combinations.
Is there a dedicated separate thread for Leica lenses?Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.
Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).
I actually would prefer threads structured by mounts. But if that is not going to happen, then maybe you can rename your thread to something that says "pictures", so that people are encouraged to post pictures there. I hope we won't have to deal with too many pictures originating from bad lens/camera combinations.
retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
Thank you for pointing out the existence of the other thread. I actually forgot that this thread exists, yet I might have remembered if I would have considered it a "picture thread". I'm not sure if people would look for pictures there, and I think I'm in favor of having threads focused on either pictures or on technical issues.retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
joakim wrote
Just wanted to point out that this is an image thread for Leica cameras.https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).
Sep 25, 2019 at 10:41 AM
p.1675 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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Sep 25, 2019 at 10:52 AM
p.1675 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).
I specifically narrowed the thread down to high resolution MLC FF cameras. Of course if a photo is posted which uses the in-camera crop mode of the FF sensor, it should be pointed out (but I agree, this would be fairly useless in the thread's context here). I don't see why technology and photography should be separated since they merge into each other.
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
I actually would prefer threads structured by mounts. But if that is not going to happen, then maybe you can rename your thread to something that says "pictures", so that people are encouraged to post pictures there. I hope we won't have to deal with too many pictures originating from bad lens/camera combinations.retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
Thank you for pointing out the existence of the other thread. I actually forgot that this thread exists, yet I might have remembered if I would have considered it a "picture thread". I'm not sure if people would look for pictures there, and I think I'm in favor of having threads focused on either pictures or on technical issues.retrofocus wrote
Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
I specifically narrowed the thread down to high resolution MLC FF cameras. Of course if a photo is posted which uses the in-camera crop mode of the FF sensor, it should be pointed out (but I agree, this would be fairly useless in the thread's context here). I don't see why technology and photography should be separated since they merge into each other.
Sep 25, 2019 at 11:02 AM
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p.1675 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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Sep 25, 2019 at 11:09 AM
p.1675 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).
Oh, you mean like this portrait:
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Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
I actually would prefer threads structured by mounts. But if that is not going to happen, then maybe you can rename your thread to something that says "pictures", so that people are encouraged to post pictures there. I hope we won't have to deal with too many pictures originating from bad lens/camera combinations.retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
Thank you for pointing out the existence of the other thread. I actually forgot that this thread exists, yet I might have remembered if I would have considered it a "picture thread". I'm not sure if people would look for pictures there, and I think I'm in favor of having threads focused on either pictures or on technical issues.retrofocus wrote
Yes, I created one in the past dedicated for M-lenses used on Z7 and S1R cameras (you also posted in this thread before but no photos yet):https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1582863/
Oh, you mean like this portrait:
[/Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
Sep 26, 2019 at 05:24 PM
p.1675 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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p.1675 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Too preppy to tip him over.
Summicron-M 35 aspherical at f/4 on SL. Not skilled enough to get good color out of this shot.
Summicron-M 35 aspherical at f/4 on SL. Not skilled enough to get good color out of this shot.
Sep 27, 2019 at 12:52 PM
p.1675 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I like this thread just the way it is.
Sep 27, 2019 at 01:26 PM
p.1675 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
But this particular thread is and has long been a place for showing and viewing images taken with Leica gear. There is another FM thread dedicated to people photography, and the two threads are not mutually exclusive. Anyone can post the same photos in both.
AcuteShadows wrote:
These fine photographs would, in my opinion, go to a portrait or a people thread, not to a gear-related thread, i.e. neither (a) or (b). Not every strength, and neither every weakness, for that matter, of a photograph, is related to the gear being used. Some photos work regardless of the gear being used. Gear-related threads are, in my view, for photographs in which the gear is challenged in some way or another.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).Oh, you mean like this portrait:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48139803831_29b872ecef_o.jpg[/
Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48607130538_c839634ee2_o.jpg
Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
AcuteShadows wrote:
These fine photographs would, in my opinion, go to a portrait or a people thread, not to a gear-related thread, i.e. neither (a) or (b). Not every strength, and neither every weakness, for that matter, of a photograph, is related to the gear being used. Some photos work regardless of the gear being used. Gear-related threads are, in my view, for photographs in which the gear is challenged in some way or another.
robgo2 wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
retrofocus wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
I actually would prefer threads structured by mounts. But if that is not going to happen, then maybe you can rename your thread to something that says "pictures", so that people are encouraged to post pictures there. I hope we won't have to deal with too many pictures originating from bad lens/camera combinations.retrofocus wrote
Intention was to have examples shown how M-lenses perform on S1R and Z7. Unfortunately I created this thread early on when nobody had the experience yet, so it started with a pure discussion about the camera systems. But I thought the post as a collection of photos and experiences of M-lens and S1R/Z7 combinations. I wanted to avoid a situation which we had in the past with M-lenses on Sony cameras, when information and experiences about performance was scattered all over x posts in different FM forums. Would love to see in this thread photos showing issues/debit of specific M-lenses on sensors and credits where they work very well. This would be very helpful for others.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48139803831_29b872ecef_o.jpg[/
Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48607130538_c839634ee2_o.jpg
Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
Sep 27, 2019 at 04:17 PM
p.1675 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
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Sep 27, 2019 at 05:21 PM
p.1675 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Agave at sunset. Wide open at non-macro and macro-mode MFDs.
Mastin Labs Ektar 100 w/edits.
@non-macro MFD
@macro MFD
Mastin Labs Ektar 100 w/edits.
© highdesertmesa 2019
@non-macro MFD
@macro MFD
Sep 27, 2019 at 08:25 PM
p.1675 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AcuteShadows wrote:
I'm totally fine with people posting all kinds of photos taken with Leica gear in this thread. It's just that I will not personally be interested in some of these photos from a gear perspective. The discussion initially was about whether it's ok to post photos taken with Leica lenses on non-Leica cameras in this thread, so I consider this branch of the discussion somewhat as a distraction from that question.
a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
Oh, you mean like this portrait:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48139803831_29b872ecef_o.jpg[/
Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48607130538_c839634ee2_o.jpg
Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
You can always start your own thread. The title of this thread is Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread.
I'm totally fine with people posting all kinds of photos taken with Leica gear in this thread. It's just that I will not personally be interested in some of these photos from a gear perspective. The discussion initially was about whether it's ok to post photos taken with Leica lenses on non-Leica cameras in this thread, so I consider this branch of the discussion somewhat as a distraction from that question.
robgo2 wrote
But this particular thread is and has long been a place for showing and viewing images taken with Leica gear. There is another FM thread dedicated to people photography, and the two threads are not mutually exclusive. Anyone can post the same photos in both.AcuteShadows wrote
These fine photographs would, in my opinion, go to a portrait or a people thread, not to a gear-related thread, i.e. neither (a) or (b). Not every strength, and neither every weakness, for that matter, of a photograph, is related to the gear being used. Some photos work regardless of the gear being used. Gear-related threads are, in my view, for photographs in which the gear is challenged in some way or another.robgo2 wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
I think we need two different kinds of thread, i.e.a) threads that discuss the merits and demerits of photographs given the strengths and limitations of the gear being used. (I'm not that interested in portraits taken by crop sensors, for example, due to the inherent limitations of the gear.)
b) threads that discuss the strengths and limitation of some specific gear
retrofocus wrote
Again, I don't want to have it one way or the other. If someone posts a technical issue, okay. If someone posts a photo taken in such combination, okay (no matter if showing a debit or credit, or both depending on aperture for example).https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48139803831_29b872ecef_o.jpg[/
Leica CL+ Summilux-TL 35 f1.4
Or this one:
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48607130538_c839634ee2_o.jpg
Leica CL+Summicron-TL 23 f2.0
You can always start your own thread. The title of this thread is Leica M/X/T/S/Q Picture Thread.
Sep 28, 2019 at 07:15 AM