Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1485 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 in hand... First impression is that I like the thickness, but really don't know where to put my hands. To elaborate it's just not familiar yet but not only that also the ISO dial gets in my way (where I usually rest my thumb) and the thinness of the camera makes it awkward to hold the way I'm use to holding it. I found the M-D more comfortable to be honest.
The sensor seems great. I liked the colours straight away (although it airs on the warm side). AND I haven't seen any noticeable banding pushing low ISO files 5 stops. At 6400 ISO pushed 5 stops there is no banding outdoors in cold weather. Indoors when the camera is room temp or warmer you can squeeze out 3 stops before you see banding on the shadows. Of course results may vary, but I'm pretty happy. I haven't bothered testing beyond that because grain looks bad at a certain point. But I could happily use the camera at 6400 ISO and push two stops of needed and not worry so much about it for web view. Obviously in print I'd like to stay much lower if possible with 6400 being a no choice option and 1600 being my happy place for bigger prints. LOWER ISO IS VERY CLEAN ON THE M10, WTF SL WTF!
THE WEIRD:
I have two lenses for the M right now (all else was sold). BUT of the two lenses I have, I only have one lens with me this trip (50APO). The 50APO is acting weird on this sensor. It's somewhat like how the 28cron acts different on the M9 vs M240 (something Ron set out to disproved, but I still believe is true pending specific light conditions and angles). Now I say this because my 50APO is showing a different kind of flare pattern than usual. And a different kind of contrast than usual. Also I would like to add (and this is strange as I've used the 50APO with coding turned off before and haven't noticed this) but on the M10 there is far more CA than when I've used it before. Basically I think someone about the sensor topping doesn't work to well with the 50APO.
BUT this shouldn't be the case, so now I'm pretty perplexed as to why it's acting weird. My only other thought would be that I somehow knocked an element slightly out of alignment or that the cold weather has changed the spacing of the elements. Still getting sharp results though.
Also was playing around with the 35cron and the 35FLE side by side and noticed that the 35FLE feels more like a 33mm and the 35cron feels more like a 37mm. Considering picking up the 35FLE again, but prices have gone up since I last owned/sold it.
Only used it a short while, nothing much to show from it. I'll be in NZ from Friday onwards and should have some good images to show sometime late next week.
The sensor seems great. I liked the colours straight away (although it airs on the warm side). AND I haven't seen any noticeable banding pushing low ISO files 5 stops. At 6400 ISO pushed 5 stops there is no banding outdoors in cold weather. Indoors when the camera is room temp or warmer you can squeeze out 3 stops before you see banding on the shadows. Of course results may vary, but I'm pretty happy. I haven't bothered testing beyond that because grain looks bad at a certain point. But I could happily use the camera at 6400 ISO and push two stops of needed and not worry so much about it for web view. Obviously in print I'd like to stay much lower if possible with 6400 being a no choice option and 1600 being my happy place for bigger prints. LOWER ISO IS VERY CLEAN ON THE M10, WTF SL WTF!
THE WEIRD:
I have two lenses for the M right now (all else was sold). BUT of the two lenses I have, I only have one lens with me this trip (50APO). The 50APO is acting weird on this sensor. It's somewhat like how the 28cron acts different on the M9 vs M240 (something Ron set out to disproved, but I still believe is true pending specific light conditions and angles). Now I say this because my 50APO is showing a different kind of flare pattern than usual. And a different kind of contrast than usual. Also I would like to add (and this is strange as I've used the 50APO with coding turned off before and haven't noticed this) but on the M10 there is far more CA than when I've used it before. Basically I think someone about the sensor topping doesn't work to well with the 50APO.
BUT this shouldn't be the case, so now I'm pretty perplexed as to why it's acting weird. My only other thought would be that I somehow knocked an element slightly out of alignment or that the cold weather has changed the spacing of the elements. Still getting sharp results though.
Also was playing around with the 35cron and the 35FLE side by side and noticed that the 35FLE feels more like a 33mm and the 35cron feels more like a 37mm. Considering picking up the 35FLE again, but prices have gone up since I last owned/sold it.
Only used it a short while, nothing much to show from it. I'll be in NZ from Friday onwards and should have some good images to show sometime late next week.
Aug 02, 2017 at 07:40 AM
p.1485 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Three Times A Lady by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Monochrom, Noctilux 1/1.0
Aug 02, 2017 at 08:05 AM
p.1485 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Mitch, I saw this discussion on LUF before but never commented myself. For me the first one is probably the one that checks the most boxes when it comes to composition rules but I still prefer the second one because of the man. In the first his just one of the elements in the image but in the second he both ads some action in the way you froze him in his stride but also now he brings context to the photo with the plates he's carrying. The first is more balanced, the second one is more interesting.
Aug 02, 2017 at 08:31 AM
p.1485 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Another IR set, MM-246 with 35 Summilux FLE
Aug 02, 2017 at 08:58 AM
p.1485 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Approaching by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Monochrom, Summicron M 90/2.0
Very nice IR, Joackim !
If i would not have my A7R converted, i would try IR with my Mono or maybe better the M8.....
Aug 02, 2017 at 10:37 AM
p.1485 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
adamdewilde wrote:
M10 in hand... First impression is that I like the thickness, but really don't know where to put my hands. To elaborate it's just not familiar yet but not only that also the ISO dial gets in my way (where I usually rest my thumb) and the thinness of the camera makes it awkward to hold the way I'm use to holding it. I found the M-D more comfortable to be honest...
Adam - Interesting. When I first got the M10, I thought it would be the first digital-M that I could use without a Thumbs-up. But then, in March, I met Guardian photographer Sarah M. Lee (http://www.sarahmlee.com) in London at the Leica Store Mayfair. She convinced me to get the Leica Thumb Support. I like it better than the Thumbs-up, and am glad I bought it.
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http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2016/05/mitch-alland-alone-in-bangkok/%22]Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine[/URL]
M10 in hand... First impression is that I like the thickness, but really don't know where to put my hands. To elaborate it's just not familiar yet but not only that also the ISO dial gets in my way (where I usually rest my thumb) and the thinness of the camera makes it awkward to hold the way I'm use to holding it. I found the M-D more comfortable to be honest...
Adam - Interesting. When I first got the M10, I thought it would be the first digital-M that I could use without a Thumbs-up. But then, in March, I met Guardian photographer Sarah M. Lee (http://www.sarahmlee.com) in London at the Leica Store Mayfair. She convinced me to get the Leica Thumb Support. I like it better than the Thumbs-up, and am glad I bought it.
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http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2016/05/mitch-alland-alone-in-bangkok/%22]Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine[/URL]
Aug 02, 2017 at 08:10 PM
p.1485 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Mitch Alland wrote:
Adam - Interesting. When I first got the M10, I thought it would be the first digital-M that I could use without a Thumbs-up. But then, in March, I met Guardian photographer Sarah M. Lee (http://www.sarahmlee.com) in London at the Leica Store Mayfair. She convinced me to get the Leica Thumb Support. I like it better than the Thumbs-up, and am glad I bought it.
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http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2016/05/mitch-alland-alone-in-bangkok/%22]Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine[/URL]
To me those just sound like normal adjustments to holding a new camera which had slightly different configuration - I'm sure you'll adjust overtime. I read/watched a few reviews recently and no one seems sure or entirely happy with the ISO dial function - a simple locking button in the center would seem more logical and intuitive to me. But hopefully it's also something you can adjust to overtime. I have to say that when I bought my typ 240 and did initial research, I was amazed that this camera of 'pure and effortless function' had to use a menu to access something as common as ISO. I honestly don't know why they didn't have an external ISO control right from the M8.
I've never used those thumbs-up add ons on any small camera, but a small halfcase with a padded grip at the front instead. But when I get mine back next month, I think I'll try shooting without any half case for a while, as it does seem so much smaller without the case...
(p.s. OT, my hotlinking issue is now solved. Seems cloudflare added this feature a couple of months ago, and auto enabled it, and I just wasn't aware)
adamdewilde wrote
M10 in hand... First impression is that I like the thickness, but really don't know where to put my hands. To elaborate it's just not familiar yet but not only that also the ISO dial gets in my way (where I usually rest my thumb) and the thinness of the camera makes it awkward to hold the way I'm use to holding it. I found the M-D more comfortable to be honest..._______________
http://www.burnmagazine.org/essays/2016/05/mitch-alland-alone-in-bangkok/%22]Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine[/URL]
To me those just sound like normal adjustments to holding a new camera which had slightly different configuration - I'm sure you'll adjust overtime. I read/watched a few reviews recently and no one seems sure or entirely happy with the ISO dial function - a simple locking button in the center would seem more logical and intuitive to me. But hopefully it's also something you can adjust to overtime. I have to say that when I bought my typ 240 and did initial research, I was amazed that this camera of 'pure and effortless function' had to use a menu to access something as common as ISO. I honestly don't know why they didn't have an external ISO control right from the M8.
I've never used those thumbs-up add ons on any small camera, but a small halfcase with a padded grip at the front instead. But when I get mine back next month, I think I'll try shooting without any half case for a while, as it does seem so much smaller without the case...
(p.s. OT, my hotlinking issue is now solved. Seems cloudflare added this feature a couple of months ago, and auto enabled it, and I just wasn't aware)
Aug 03, 2017 at 02:56 AM
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p.1485 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | Summicron 35v4 | ISO 200 | f/5.6 | 1/1000 sec
Turks & Caicos Islands
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Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine
Turks & Caicos Islands
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Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine
Aug 03, 2017 at 08:15 PM
p.1485 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
At last, after some dramas with processing and more with scanning, some home-developed and scanned B&W images:
All shot on 1956 M3 SS, Eastman 5222 cinefilm, developed in Ilford Perceptol 1+2. Shot at ISO 200-250
1. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM, probably wide-open, in mostly ambient light (my favourite shot from about 40 images)
Inside Hotel Hotel by David M, on Flickr
2. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM. 1/80s f5.6
Little Creatures Brewery, Fremantle, evening by David M, on Flickr
3. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM
New Edition Book Shop (evening) by David M, on Flickr
4. Lens is probably ZM25 f/2.8
High St. by David M, on Flickr
All shot on 1956 M3 SS, Eastman 5222 cinefilm, developed in Ilford Perceptol 1+2. Shot at ISO 200-250
1. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM, probably wide-open, in mostly ambient light (my favourite shot from about 40 images)
Inside Hotel Hotel by David M, on Flickr2. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM. 1/80s f5.6
Little Creatures Brewery, Fremantle, evening by David M, on Flickr3. Canon 50 f/1.4 LTM
New Edition Book Shop (evening) by David M, on Flickr4. Lens is probably ZM25 f/2.8
High St. by David M, on FlickrAug 04, 2017 at 01:50 AM
p.1485 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
The most beautiful cat I've ever met.
Aug 04, 2017 at 02:53 AM
p.1485 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
First shot is awesome, Richard!
Aug 04, 2017 at 04:49 AM
p.1485 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
My usual street photos, and the wifey 
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrAug 04, 2017 at 04:50 AM
p.1485 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7-Zeiss 35/2.8-Rollei RPX 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrAug 04, 2017 at 04:52 AM
p.1485 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Richard, I agree the first one is a great cat portrait
David, I can understand that the first one is a favourite. Very well executed.
Mitch, strong composition with the horizontal strips. I like the colours you get from the M10.
Edward, your wife doesn't look to happy to be photographed but the second one is a excellent portrait n my opinion. Her hat and dress in b&w makes it look like a scene from an old 60's or 70's movie.
David, I can understand that the first one is a favourite. Very well executed.
Mitch, strong composition with the horizontal strips. I like the colours you get from the M10.
Edward, your wife doesn't look to happy to be photographed but the second one is a excellent portrait n my opinion. Her hat and dress in b&w makes it look like a scene from an old 60's or 70's movie.
Aug 04, 2017 at 05:09 AM
p.1485 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Not my ride. MM-246 and 35 Summilux FLE
Aug 04, 2017 at 05:32 AM
p.1485 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Fat Back by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Monochrom, Noctilux 1/1.0
Thx Edward !
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Aug 04, 2017 at 05:36 AM
p.1485 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
joakim wrote:
Richard, I agree the first one is a great cat portrait
David, I can understand that the first one is a favourite. Very well executed.
Mitch, strong composition with the horizontal strips. I like the colours you get from the M10.
Edward, your wife doesn't look to happy to be photographed but the second one is a excellent portrait n my opinion. Her hat and dress in b&w makes it look like a scene from an old 60's or 70's movie.
Thank you Joakim! Actually looking unhappy is part of her act
She doesn't like to smile in photos.
Richard, I agree the first one is a great cat portrait
David, I can understand that the first one is a favourite. Very well executed.
Mitch, strong composition with the horizontal strips. I like the colours you get from the M10.
Edward, your wife doesn't look to happy to be photographed but the second one is a excellent portrait n my opinion. Her hat and dress in b&w makes it look like a scene from an old 60's or 70's movie.
Thank you Joakim! Actually looking unhappy is part of her act
She doesn't like to smile in photos. Aug 04, 2017 at 05:43 AM