Coogee and Adam, it is the nazi swastika but the Thai youths are quite ignorant about history. He's probably wearing it because he thinks it's cool. You can buy bin laden t-shirts in Bangkok. There was a scandal a few years ago that a Thai school organized a nazi parade as part of a yearly costume festival. It's done in an innocent way but it's not an excuse nonetheless.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Coogee and Adam, it is the nazi swastika but the Thai youths are quite ignorant about history. He's probably wearing it because he thinks it's cool. You can buy bin laden t-shirts in Bangkok. There was a scandal a few years ago that a Thai school organized a nazi parade as part of a yearly costume festival. It's done in an innocent way but it's not an excuse nonetheless.
Yeh exactly, that colour scheme is as I mentioned very hitler propaganda. It's weird that the youth don't know these things. I was 8-9 and my friend had drawn a swastika on his basketball and I called him on it. He thought it was cool because he seen some army logo like it. After educating him.. He took a marker to the ball the night he got home.
I don't really get holocaust deniers and the lack of education. But I guess when your'e from a small village it's more imperative that you learn to farm, fish or some kind of trade than to be taught history. It's just strange that people still want to monetise such things.
adamdewilde wrote:
Anyway, good shots BTW. You tempted by the M10?
Thanks Adam! Of course I'm interested! But I will wait for some grey market goods to make it to my supplier. The full agent price is too high.
I recently saw the Gustav Vigeland sculpture park in Oslo, which I found surprisingly interesting / moving. If you're not familiar, it revolves around the cycle of life and mortality. And it seems these days just about every conversation I have with my sister seems to feature "What are we doing to do with our parents?", I felt like doing creating something on this theme. This is just a quick scribble, notes on a pad of paper, as I plan on exploring the theme further. I hope they're simple enough to speak directly to most people.
I'm not usually a fan of slideshows but I wanted to put this in a sort of static sequential view, so if you wish you can see it here (http://ourfragments.com/untitled/) , but I do recommend clicking the "full window" button on the top right corner of the gallery part.
^ I like it a lot Richard, really interesting set and theme.
@Edward, I didn't mean to pull things off topic on the t-shirt. Having been to Thailand a few times, I completely get that there's a massive cultural disconnect and fwiw, I don't think the spectre of fascism is a fashion issue (intriguing links though Abram.) I really enjoy seeing Thai street life in all its many forms.
Not a particularly interesting picture of Endeavour...
The two guys underneath were doing the whole babyboomer, 'We went to the moon there Jack' conversation, whilst around them most people were playing with their phones and being generally underwhelmed - my own extended family didn't even want to bother going into its hangar.
Made me kind of sad as someone who went weak at the knees seeing a Shuttle up close for the first time.
I would LOVE to see a shuttle up close so I'm thoroughly jealous you went! I need to get out there to the Science Center and check it out since it's not TOO far from where I live. (Very drivable distance)
I was just an international tourist passing through but it's a nice spot in a cool looking park (Exposition Park), the Coliseum right there too and I stumbled into a University round the corner too - USC? I liked the Newport (beach) area in LA, never made it to Laguna.
I'd be moving to SD if I lived there though! LA traffic wow!
LA definitely has a lot of interesting areas and neighborhoods in its massive sprawl. Newport is part of Orange County which where I live, though I'm in "South County" which is just about the end before San Diego County.
It is one of the things I appreciate about California in that it's really quite a diverse place with lots to do and see if you're willing to look.
Had good experience with Leica SG. The Q for some reason wouldn't keep an SD card down. You know when it clicks in and stays in.. Well no click no stay. So I brought the camera in Friday night (they don't work weekends so it might as well have been Monday morning). The Q was returned to me fixed on WEDNESDAY. Which is pretty awesome two day turn around. Something I'd expect from a luxury brand, but have not seen happen with Leica in a long time. Either way props to Leica SG for the quick turn around, and I can use it on my trip to Melbourne and not have to pack my M.
On the point of California well L.A. area in specific. I find the neighbourhoods quite difficult to shoot. Not really inspiring. Nothing like Detroit, NY, Boston or Toronto etc. I suppose you can find good photos anywhere, but other than the X areas where one would take the typical shots, I'm not really impressed with the city one bit. I think it's partly all the low rise buildings/shops. Partly the fact that it's really quite spread out. I much prefer walking around the parks, riding bikes, flying drones and driving up the 1 (coast towards SF) when I'm in LA and have leisure time.
Though I'm a pretty big fan of the museums and food trucks
The banding is coming from flickr over compressing the JPGs unfortunately. The DNG does not show this nor is the JPG that I uploaded - you should be able to see this if you click through flickr and then select the "original" size
adamdewilde wrote:
...I suspect he wears it in the Buddhist sense (or he thinks it looks cool). Not realising the colour implications. But who knows people these days are all sorts of crazy.
I doubt that he has any thought in his mind about this except that of a style statement. Generally, Thais who speak no English — probably over 95% of university graduates — have only a sense that Hitler was some sort of bad person, a reflection of an educational system that doesn't teach any real history, either Thai or foreign. Similarly, if you ask most young Thais if they know who Beethoven is many will respond, "Isn't that the name of a dog?" That's not the case in Korea or Japan. Of course, there is a concept of high culture in Thailand, but it's much narrower than, say, in Korea or Japan.
The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being; and that's where the greeting pronounced "sawadee" comes from in Thai, which is why it is often transliterated as "sawasdee" in roman letters, which parallels the spelling (and sanskrit origin) in Thai letters.
A further web search shows that the swastika (a hooked cross) appears to have first been used in Neolithic Eurasia, perhaps representing the movement of the sun through the sky. To this day it is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Odinism (i.e., ancient norse religion). And, in the aryan sense of the invaders of Dravidian India and ancient Iranian people, who used the symbol, it was adopted, and thereby corrupted, by the Nazis.
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re: Arizona/Buddhism. They really stuffed up a good thing there those Nazis.
Interesting about 'sawadee', one of the few Thai words I know and about history study, always a political vehicle. I had the full British Empire history education which I'm sure was just as misinformed albeit in different ways.