Let's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.
adamdewilde wrote:
zhangyue - Love the bokeh in the second shot!
I like its bokeh in this case too. It was at f2.8 I believe.
After use this lens more, I think I have better understanding about this lens. I like it very much for a whole package include rendering, performance, quirk and size, handling, lots of character WO, and stop down a stop or two have better Bokeh and after f8 it is excellent to be able to use as street and landscape shots.
For me, I know what I will get before buy this lens. I kind of expected what it will perform during research.
However, I will not recommend this lens to everyone who want a fast 35mm glass as I don't really know what is your expectation about it. It doesn't have modern coating which means it will produce low contrast, a little muted color file,(later model might be better, but it also lose some of its classic charm) with lots of light, the image will even GLOW. It can produce funky Bokeh at WO at certain subject and background ratio. It will not be a sharpness champion once stop down.
Even bigger problem for M is Lens without goggle will only focus to 1M, which is unacceptable for 35mm to me. (you could use zoom adapter on Sony to get this down) For me it is no longer a problem as I prefer 50mm frame line and I even prefer its goofy look with goggle.
The lens has almost the same element counts and configuration of 4th generation 35 cron. A legend Bokeh King, which got its name not from shots WO but f4 or so. I verify its configuration and MTF chart. Same 7 element diagram and It almost indistinguishable between the two at f5.6 from their MTF. Which is also match what I see in Bokeh, well, kind of, It looks wonderful at a stop or two at mid distance.
Lots of talk. hope it is beneficial.
joakim wrote:
Let's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.
Very nice, Joakim. For S, If I don't have tripod at difficult light or DOF required condition, I will use 2sec timer handhold. It improve at least one stop performance to me, you might give it a try, even with your mono-pod.
zhangyue wrote:
The lens has almost the same element counts and configuration of 4th generation 35 cron. A legend Bokeh King, which got its name not from shots WO but f4 or so. I verify its configuration and MTF chart. Same 7 element diagram and It almost indistinguishable between the two at f5.6 from their MTF. Which is also match what I see in Bokeh, well, kind of, It looks wonderful at a stop or two at mid distance.
Puts' MTFs for the lux pre-asph and cron v4 at f/8 show the lux to actually be a fair bit ahead of the cron to my eye.
i find the lux to be one of those lenses where the bokeh improves with greater focus distances.
joakim wrote:
Let's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.
That's exactly what I do. S + monopod and then 60th of a second with 120S instead of 180th handheld. If your subject is still and you have a bit of technique it'll work well.
zhangyue wrote: adamdewilde wrotezhangyue - Love the bokeh in the second shot!I like its bokeh in this case too. It was at f2.8 I believe.
After use this lens more, I think I have better understanding about this lens. I like it very much for a whole package include rendering, performance, quirk and size, handling, lots of character WO, and stop down a stop or two have better Bokeh and after f8 it is excellent to be able to use as street and landscape shots.
For me, I know what I will get before buy this lens. I kind of expected what it will perform during research.
However, I will not recommend this lens to everyone who want a fast 35mm glass as I don't really know what is your expectation about it. It doesn't have modern coating which means it will produce low contrast, a little muted color file,(later model might be better, but it also lose some of its classic charm) with lots of light, the image will even GLOW. It can produce funky Bokeh at WO at certain subject and background ratio. It will not be a sharpness champion once stop down.
Even bigger problem for M is Lens without goggle will only focus to 1M, which is unacceptable for 35mm to me. (you could use zoom adapter on Sony to get this down) For me it is no longer a problem as I prefer 50mm frame line and I even prefer its goofy look with goggle.
The lens has almost the same element counts and configuration of 4th generation 35 cron. A legend Bokeh King, which got its name not from shots WO but f4 or so. I verify its configuration and MTF chart. Same 7 element diagram and It almost indistinguishable between the two at f5.6 from their MTF. Which is also match what I see in Bokeh, well, kind of, It looks wonderful at a stop or two at mid distance.
Lots of talk. hope it is beneficial.
Very nice, Joakim. For S, If I don't have tripod at difficult light or DOF required condition, I will use 2sec timer handhold. It improve at least one stop performance to me, you might give it a try, even with your mono-pod.
Here are a few 35lux WO
...Show more →joakim wroteLet's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.
Yes, I am overly careful with vintage glass purchases. As a lot of the time I think something looks cool, buy it on a whim and then don't like it, and never end up using it. Most of you guys on here are to blame for that!
Leica finally opened an east coast store in Boston. Yesterday was their grand opening. I went there this morning. I did get to play with Leica SL with a Noct mounted on it. Very nice combo. The SL is much better in real life than the photo. Ergonomics is really great especially when focusing a manual focus lens like the Noct. I am very impressed with how nice the EVF is. After playing with it, I now want one. Here are some shots with the Noct and SL
adamdewilde wrote: zhangyue wroteadamdewilde wrotezhangyue - Love the bokeh in the second shot!I like its bokeh in this case too. It was at f2.8 I believe.
After use this lens more, I think I have better understanding about this lens. I like it very much for a whole package include rendering, performance, quirk and size, handling, lots of character WO, and stop down a stop or two have better Bokeh and after f8 it is excellent to be able to use as street and landscape shots.
For me, I know what I will get before buy this lens. I kind of expected what it will perform during research.
However, I will not recommend this lens to everyone who want a fast 35mm glass as I don't really know what is your expectation about it. It doesn't have modern coating which means it will produce low contrast, a little muted color file,(later model might be better, but it also lose some of its classic charm) with lots of light, the image will even GLOW. It can produce funky Bokeh at WO at certain subject and background ratio. It will not be a sharpness champion once stop down.
Even bigger problem for M is Lens without goggle will only focus to 1M, which is unacceptable for 35mm to me. (you could use zoom adapter on Sony to get this down) For me it is no longer a problem as I prefer 50mm frame line and I even prefer its goofy look with goggle.
The lens has almost the same element counts and configuration of 4th generation 35 cron. A legend Bokeh King, which got its name not from shots WO but f4 or so. I verify its configuration and MTF chart. Same 7 element diagram and It almost indistinguishable between the two at f5.6 from their MTF. Which is also match what I see in Bokeh, well, kind of, It looks wonderful at a stop or two at mid distance.
Lots of talk. hope it is beneficial.
joakim wroteLet's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.Very nice, Joakim. For S, If I don't have tripod at difficult light or DOF required condition, I will use 2sec timer handhold. It improve at least one stop performance to me, you might give it a try, even with your mono-pod.
Here are a few 35lux WOYes, I am overly careful with vintage glass purchases. As a lot of the time I think something looks cool, buy it on a whim and then don't like it, and never end up using it. Most of you guys on here are to blame for that!
That is right, that is also why I am also overly careful recommend any lenses to any people. Nowadays, FM alt crowd seems easily get over exciting with some new lens recently
These are really different tool help you to achieve different look. It create extra dimension for the look and fun. They all have their meaning in my bag. No, I don't think it(35lux) is suit for pro(unless for street photographer), Pros might want have a set of lens with consistent look and reliable to deliver image under all condition.
Here are a few more fun samples with M240 and Novoflex and EVF and I will no longer over load this thread with family snaps.
Please don't stop posting these types of photos. They are really quite lovely! Beautiful color/tonality, rendering and composition. Thanks for posting.
zhangyue wrote: adamdewilde wrotezhangyue wroteadamdewilde wrotezhangyue - Love the bokeh in the second shot!I like its bokeh in this case too. It was at f2.8 I believe.
After use this lens more, I think I have better understanding about this lens. I like it very much for a whole package include rendering, performance, quirk and size, handling, lots of character WO, and stop down a stop or two have better Bokeh and after f8 it is excellent to be able to use as street and landscape shots.
For me, I know what I will get before buy this lens. I kind of expected what it will perform during research.
However, I will not recommend this lens to everyone who want a fast 35mm glass as I don't really know what is your expectation about it. It doesn't have modern coating which means it will produce low contrast, a little muted color file,(later model might be better, but it also lose some of its classic charm) with lots of light, the image will even GLOW. It can produce funky Bokeh at WO at certain subject and background ratio. It will not be a sharpness champion once stop down.
Even bigger problem for M is Lens without goggle will only focus to 1M, which is unacceptable for 35mm to me. (you could use zoom adapter on Sony to get this down) For me it is no longer a problem as I prefer 50mm frame line and I even prefer its goofy look with goggle.
The lens has almost the same element counts and configuration of 4th generation 35 cron. A legend Bokeh King, which got its name not from shots WO but f4 or so. I verify its configuration and MTF chart. Same 7 element diagram and It almost indistinguishable between the two at f5.6 from their MTF. Which is also match what I see in Bokeh, well, kind of, It looks wonderful at a stop or two at mid distance.
Lots of talk. hope it is beneficial.
joakim wroteLet's bring this thread back to the top of the page. S-006 and 120 APO Summarit. I used a monopod this time and I found it to be a good experience and a viable alternative when I don't want to bring a tripod. Shoot a lot at 1/60 with the 120 but that was pushing it a little to far even if I got some decently sharp. The ones below are shot at 1/180 though.Very nice, Joakim. For S, If I don't have tripod at difficult light or DOF required condition, I will use 2sec timer handhold. It improve at least one stop performance to me, you might give it a try, even with your mono-pod.
Here are a few 35lux WOYes, I am overly careful with vintage glass purchases. As a lot of the time I think something looks cool, buy it on a whim and then don't like it, and never end up using it. Most of you guys on here are to blame for that!That is right, that is also why I am also overly careful recommend any lenses to any people. Nowadays, FM alt crowd seems easily get over exciting with some new lens recently
These are really different tool help you to achieve different look. It create extra dimension for the look and fun. They all have their meaning in my bag. No, I don't think it(35lux) is suit for pro(unless for street photographer), Pros might want have a set of lens with consistent look and reliable to deliver image under all condition.
Here are a few more fun samples with M240 and Novoflex and EVF and I will no longer over load this thread with family snaps.
80mm Summilux
OTUS 55mm Distagon
135APO Sonnar
All WO, zero crop, minimal PP.
I don't speak for everyone when I say this.. But I'm sure a large majority would agree. Your family life shots are more well thought out then most other shots I see around the net. And you always take the time to ensure the level of quality through your selection process and editing skills is at a high standard. So please continue to shoot and show us your daily life photos.. They're inspiring to me, even though I shoot for a living!!
And also I agree, the alt forum has gone a bit off spirit with a lot of new alt lenses. I sure hope all these old gems don't get too neglected! Though I don't mind your Otus shots one bit
Sorry, not been here in a few weeks, have been playing with some old MF Nikon glass on my Df but took the M240 for a day out today. There have been some lovely photos posted recently, these don't compete really
I too have a 35 Lux pre ASPH (mine is a 'titanium') and love the handling/results.
I most often find myself using it at f/11, point and shoot, but it is great fun all round with BW film.
I'd intended to let it or the 35 Cron v4 go but find myself keeping both for now.
This two with 35 Lux 'v2' at night, then 35 Cron v4 at lunch, no filters, HP5