Gary, do it if you feel you may love the rendering and handling. These days, you don't see me recommend lens even I bought so many good ones include OTUS, 135APO, a bunch of Contax645 and S35/70/100. But I have to say there are two lens I really love: one is this little guy and another is 120APO contax645. (a master piece IMO for S)
adamdewilde wrote: zhangyue wroteJoakim, That set is very special. I love them all.
Edward, I really love the #1&3 in your BW set and 4,5,6 in your color set.
Here is a cross post in Mandler thread.
Got a new lens 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
The lens is front focus on my M240 though, but I will live with it. IT is very easy to compensate it.
A few images. These was before I find out it is front focus. I think I still front focus in most those images but at longer distance, the DOF covers it better.
Here is a iPhone shot of system, does it look beautiful
The sharpness WO is OK, definitely usable. I can image I will love it with BW and low light. I love those little glow, I think it looks very similar to Nikkor 35mm 1.4 AIS I had,(I should get that lens some day) but it is a leica and it is tiny.
Edit:
Here is one 100% crop after I figured it is front focus. I don't really need it is sharper than that for the way I use it.
And another sampleGreat images! I do like the rendering, I just don't know if I could put up with the goggles.
You have to. I just prefer 50mm frame line and more important only M3 version can focus down to 65cm, a must, you get tons of character change from 65cm to 100cm. Not to mention the classical goggle look with brass , make you feel be part of it. Someday, I will update a nice gear shot instead of iPhone mid-night capture. It is a beauty in its own.
Zhangyue, congrats on the new lux! Beautiful rendering! It's supposed to have focus shift, right? Maybe the front focus is due to the lens being calibrated for f2.8? Thank you for the comments by the way
Allen, the colors are just sublime.
zhangyue wrote:
Gary, do it if you feel you may love the rendering and handling. These days, you don't see me recommend lens even I bought so many good ones include OTUS, 135APO, a bunch of Contax645 and S35/70/100. But I have to say there are two lens I really love: one is this little guy and another is 120APO contax645. (a master piece IMO for S)
adamdewilde wrotezhangyue wroteJoakim, That set is very special. I love them all.
Edward, I really love the #1&3 in your BW set and 4,5,6 in your color set.
Here is a cross post in Mandler thread.
Got a new lens 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
The lens is front focus on my M240 though, but I will live with it. IT is very easy to compensate it.
A few images. These was before I find out it is front focus. I think I still front focus in most those images but at longer distance, the DOF covers it better.
Here is a iPhone shot of system, does it look beautiful
The sharpness WO is OK, definitely usable. I can image I will love it with BW and low light. I love those little glow, I think it looks very similar to Nikkor 35mm 1.4 AIS I had,(I should get that lens some day) but it is a leica and it is tiny.
Edit:
Here is one 100% crop after I figured it is front focus. I don't really need it is sharper than that for the way I use it.
And another sampleGreat images! I do like the rendering, I just don't know if I could put up with the goggles.You have to. I just prefer 50mm frame line and more important only M3 version can focus down to 65cm, a must, you get tons of character change from 65cm to 100cm. Not to mention the classical goggle look with brass , make you feel be part of it. Someday, I will update a nice gear shot instead of iPhone mid-night capture. It is a beauty in its own. ...Show more →
You'll definitely get asked "is that an old film camera?" with that setup!
Michael, very nice shots in the forest, and congrats on the pre-asph. They say no two were the same new, and 50 years later it's probably the case for sure Looks like yours is pretty sweet.
Edward, lots of good shots, that 262 has you shooting alot!
Joakim, spectacular concert work.
Gary, I know what you mean 28 v 35. Lately I've been giving my zm35/2 some love, traveling with SEM 21, 35/2 and the 75 summarit. Below all ZM35/2
Beavers trying to stop me Beavers! by unoh7, on Flickr
Below at f/2 to see if I could isolate the tree Limber Pine by unoh7, on Flickr
There are lots of great 35s, and I would love a pre-asph lux, or a 8 element cron, or, for that matter a FLE. But the Biogon, for 600 bucks, calms me when the GAS attacks Yes, the 28 cron has more magic. But it's pretty good.
adamdewilde wrote: zhangyue wroteGary, do it if you feel you may love the rendering and handling. These days, you don't see me recommend lens even I bought so many good ones include OTUS, 135APO, a bunch of Contax645 and S35/70/100. But I have to say there are two lens I really love: one is this little guy and another is 120APO contax645. (a master piece IMO for S)
adamdewilde wrotezhangyue wroteJoakim, That set is very special. I love them all.
Edward, I really love the #1&3 in your BW set and 4,5,6 in your color set.
Here is a cross post in Mandler thread.
Got a new lens 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
The lens is front focus on my M240 though, but I will live with it. IT is very easy to compensate it.
A few images. These was before I find out it is front focus. I think I still front focus in most those images but at longer distance, the DOF covers it better.
Here is a iPhone shot of system, does it look beautiful
The sharpness WO is OK, definitely usable. I can image I will love it with BW and low light. I love those little glow, I think it looks very similar to Nikkor 35mm 1.4 AIS I had,(I should get that lens some day) but it is a leica and it is tiny.
Edit:
Here is one 100% crop after I figured it is front focus. I don't really need it is sharper than that for the way I use it.
And another sampleGreat images! I do like the rendering, I just don't know if I could put up with the goggles.You have to. I just prefer 50mm frame line and more important only M3 version can focus down to 65cm, a must, you get tons of character change from 65cm to 100cm. Not to mention the classical goggle look with brass , make you feel be part of it. Someday, I will update a nice gear shot instead of iPhone mid-night capture. It is a beauty in its own.You'll definitely get asked "is that an old film camera?" with that setup!
Haha, That is the point I paid premium for it.
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uhoh7 wrote:
Michael, very nice shots in the forest, and congrats on the pre-asph. They say no two were the same new, and 50 years later it's probably the case for sure Looks like yours is pretty sweet.
Edward, lots of good shots, that 262 has you shooting alot!
Joakim, spectacular concert work.
Gary, I know what you mean 28 v 35. Lately I've been giving my zm35/2 some love, traveling with SEM 21, 35/2 and the 75 summarit. Below all ZM35/2
There are lots of great 35s, and I would love a pre-asph lux, or a 8 element cron, or, for that matter a FLE. But the Biogon, for 600 bucks, calms me when the GAS attacks Yes, the 28 cron has more magic. But it's pretty good. ...Show more →
You are right about the that lens, In additional to age, I see so many build flavor out of that lens. It last 30 year without upgrade the longest of any leica lens. Mine was just went through a CLA claimed by seller. it flare seems slightly better than the 35cron I had.
But both with subdued color profile and lower contrast so I would not advice this lens will suit everyone. Zeiss 35mm is great as shown by your picture, no question about that.
Here are a few random capture Yesterday during weekend bike trip.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Zhangyue, congrats on the new lux! Beautiful rendering! It's supposed to have focus shift, right? Maybe the front focus is due to the lens being calibrated for f2.8? Thank you for the comments by the way
Allen, the colors are just sublime.
My initial thought exactly. (maybe it is build for f2.8 focusing) I spend a few mins handhold test that lens, actually, it looks like there is no significant focus shift. this copy was just back focus, very noticeable at MFD. I will do a careful setup later to report back if it has focus shift.
Thank you Charlie for the comments! Great mountain shots as usual.
Werner, nice selfie!
Zhangyue, clever play with the shadows. Well seen.
Edwin, lovely portrait and beautiful texture on your father's face.
Edward, thanks for comment. I think I did too much for the contrast.
Yep, I did the test again, there is negligible focus shift.
Here are a few more with 35lux preASPH and M240 from Weekend bike trip.
The lens works fine stop down. f5.6 for cross frame. f11 for perfect extreame corner.
I'm not sure who uses the T system right now, or SL for that matter.. But for what it's worth I have the 35mm Summilux-TL and have spent an hour with the just released 60mm Macro-Elmarit-TL (no I will not be buying it). A friend of mine wanted to buy it, and he wanted my opinion on it before he made the purchase. And I'm not in the habit of forming an opinion without at least trying it even if only for a quick walk up and down the street.
I'm not going to write a review with samples etc because I'm not all that interested. But for those it benefits here are my quick thoughts.
The 60 focuses faster than the 35TL which was the fastest lens in the T lineup. It is able to single shot moving subjects on a street with very accurate results (the 35 Summilux struggles more if people are moving quickly). The issue for the 60macro is when you go from macro distance to portrait or candid distance. The camera gets really confused and doesn't know what to do, so it racks focus back and forth. Quick fix for this is to focus on things in distance increments. Or to just let it rack back and forth a few times till it figures it out.
All in all, it's a really fast macro lens, I've not used a lot of recent macro lenses but it's faster than I remember the Nikon or Canon 100 to be. Though it's been a while and the last time I used said lenses was on older bodies (think 5D2 and D700).
AF accuracy for macro is also surprisingly good. Which I guess it would have to be since manual focusing on T lenses or SL lenses in general is terrible. And I found I was able to hand hold macro shots without much issue. I think maybe because I didn't seem that close. Let's put it this way, it didn't seem like 1:1 to me. Unless because it's a crop sensor 1:1 is measured differently?
Colours seemed vibrant and there wasn't anything wrong with the bokeh or the performance from the lens, but also nothing special. Though I shot into the sun only twice (tree branches). Upon reviewing I had a sneaky suspicion that the CA is being digitally corrected, but maybe that's just the bokeh or something else in the rendering at play. I'd need to own the lens before commenting fully on this. But let's just say I'm probably right
I wouldn't recommend this lens over the 35 Summilux simply because I find the bokeh and ability to play with shallow DOF more worthwhile then the reach and macro abilities of the 60mm. But both lenses are very different tools and aside from the fact that it should have been a f/2 lens, I think it's a welcome edition to the two primes currently available for those who like primes (though like most new things from Leica, not worth the price premium).
I guess if someone here is REALLY interested in getting this lens, I could post a few straight out of SL camera samples. But I no longer have a T, so I only shot the 60mm with an SL. And since I don't own the lens, I cannot do anything specific. Though I suppose if someone wanted to see the 35 Summilux-TL I could run tests since I have that lens.
adamdewilde wrote:
I'm not sure who uses the T system right now, or SL for that matter.. But for what it's worth I have the 35mm Summilux-TL and have spent an hour with the just released 60mm Macro-Elmarit-TL (no I will not be buying it). A friend of mine wanted to buy it, and he wanted my opinion on it before he made the purchase. And I'm not in the habit of forming an opinion without at least trying it even if only for a quick walk up and down the street.
I'm not going to write a review with samples etc because I'm not all that interested. But for those it benefits here are my quick thoughts.
The 60 focuses faster than the 35TL which was the fastest lens in the T lineup. It is able to single shot moving subjects on a street with very accurate results (the 35 Summilux struggles more if people are moving quickly). The issue for the 60macro is when you go from macro distance to portrait or candid distance. The camera gets really confused and doesn't know what to do, so it racks focus back and forth. Quick fix for this is to focus on things in distance increments. Or to just let it rack back and forth a few times till it figures it out.
All in all, it's a really fast macro lens, I've not used a lot of recent macro lenses but it's faster than I remember the Nikon or Canon 100 to be. Though it's been a while and the last time I used said lenses was on older bodies (think 5D2 and D700).
AF accuracy for macro is also surprisingly good. Which I guess it would have to be since manual focusing on T lenses or SL lenses in general is terrible. And I found I was able to hand hold macro shots without much issue. I think maybe because I didn't seem that close. Let's put it this way, it didn't seem like 1:1 to me. Unless because it's a crop sensor 1:1 is measured differently?
Colours seemed vibrant and there wasn't anything wrong with the bokeh or the performance from the lens, but also nothing special. Though I shot into the sun only twice (tree branches). Upon reviewing I had a sneaky suspicion that the CA is being digitally corrected, but maybe that's just the bokeh or something else in the rendering at play. I'd need to own the lens before commenting fully on this. But let's just say I'm probably right
I wouldn't recommend this lens over the 35 Summilux simply because I find the bokeh and ability to play with shallow DOF more worthwhile then the reach and macro abilities of the 60mm. But both lenses are very different tools and aside from the fact that it should have been a f/2 lens, I think it's a welcome edition to the two primes currently available for those who like primes (though like most new things from Leica, not worth the price premium).
I guess if someone here is REALLY interested in getting this lens, I could post a few straight out of SL camera samples. But I no longer have a T, so I only shot the 60mm with an SL. And since I don't own the lens, I cannot do anything specific. Though I suppose if someone wanted to see the 35 Summilux-TL I could run tests since I have that lens....Show more →
Thanks for the insight Adam. I have the T with the 11-23 and 18-56 and it's a better camera than is commonly thought, The 35 interests me but as you say, I'm not convinced that it's worth the Leica price premium.
CVickery wrote: adamdewilde wroteI'm not sure who uses the T system right now, or SL for that matter.. But for what it's worth I have the 35mm Summilux-TL and have spent an hour with the just released 60mm Macro-Elmarit-TL (no I will not be buying it). A friend of mine wanted to buy it, and he wanted my opinion on it before he made the purchase. And I'm not in the habit of forming an opinion without at least trying it even if only for a quick walk up and down the street.
I'm not going to write a review with samples etc because I'm not all that interested. But for those it benefits here are my quick thoughts.
The 60 focuses faster than the 35TL which was the fastest lens in the T lineup. It is able to single shot moving subjects on a street with very accurate results (the 35 Summilux struggles more if people are moving quickly). The issue for the 60macro is when you go from macro distance to portrait or candid distance. The camera gets really confused and doesn't know what to do, so it racks focus back and forth. Quick fix for this is to focus on things in distance increments. Or to just let it rack back and forth a few times till it figures it out.
All in all, it's a really fast macro lens, I've not used a lot of recent macro lenses but it's faster than I remember the Nikon or Canon 100 to be. Though it's been a while and the last time I used said lenses was on older bodies (think 5D2 and D700).
AF accuracy for macro is also surprisingly good. Which I guess it would have to be since manual focusing on T lenses or SL lenses in general is terrible. And I found I was able to hand hold macro shots without much issue. I think maybe because I didn't seem that close. Let's put it this way, it didn't seem like 1:1 to me. Unless because it's a crop sensor 1:1 is measured differently?
Colours seemed vibrant and there wasn't anything wrong with the bokeh or the performance from the lens, but also nothing special. Though I shot into the sun only twice (tree branches). Upon reviewing I had a sneaky suspicion that the CA is being digitally corrected, but maybe that's just the bokeh or something else in the rendering at play. I'd need to own the lens before commenting fully on this. But let's just say I'm probably right
I wouldn't recommend this lens over the 35 Summilux simply because I find the bokeh and ability to play with shallow DOF more worthwhile then the reach and macro abilities of the 60mm. But both lenses are very different tools and aside from the fact that it should have been a f/2 lens, I think it's a welcome edition to the two primes currently available for those who like primes (though like most new things from Leica, not worth the price premium).
I guess if someone here is REALLY interested in getting this lens, I could post a few straight out of SL camera samples. But I no longer have a T, so I only shot the 60mm with an SL. And since I don't own the lens, I cannot do anything specific. Though I suppose if someone wanted to see the 35 Summilux-TL I could run tests since I have that lens.Thanks for the insight Adam. I have the T with the 11-23 and 18-56 and it's a better camera than is commonly thought, The 35 interests me but as you say, I'm not convinced that it's worth the Leica price premium.
You are welcome. Yes not worth the current price tag over its competitors like M lenses are worth the price over what competitors are charging. BUT I guess that's subjective. Though if you wait another 6-8 months, I believe the 35TL will be available "certified preowned" for $1500 or less (since all other T lenses you can find for around $999 or less). And all certified preowned means is that dealers can't sell them at retail, so they make some excuse to sell them cheap.
I'll see if I have time to dig up and post some random 35TL shots. Since I don't see many up on the net.