Joe, please don't post any S2 images anymore, no matter what Michael says
You know I have a weakness for it
I played with one a couple of months ago and the VF is just fantastic, better than anything I have ever used. If I ever consider shooting with a DSLR again, it would be the S, no doubt.
Been enjoying the images when I find time to get on. Three night classes (Photography, Photoshop and Videography) and training for my now just finished 1/2 marathon keeps one away from the forums.
Our last assignment was a portraiture. One inside, one out and one with windows light. Been trying to at least submit one shot from the Monochrom. The one thing I dislike (though I understand why) is our instructor insists no post allowed except for a small amount of cropping if we want. It came down to these two for the outside shot I went with the first. No post done on either.
Keep your shots coming I do enjoy looking at them and 'Liking' then when I can get on. It is good to see what you freelancers are doing with your Leica's. Terrific and and inspiring.
uhoh7 wrote:
If you get the CV 25, know that some are RF coupled and others not. As you know, the CV 21/4 and CV28/3.5 are similar, very small etc. But the 28 is hard to find, however some feel it's the best of all the skopars.
There's also the zm25/2.8 and CV 28/2 or 1.9 Ultron you might consider
24SEM is to die for but running 1800 or so used.
The 28s are nice, but wondering if it might be too close to the 40. Then again, it would be like a 35/50 combo which isn't entirely bad... but for a two lens combo maybe too close.
Anyone know how a 21 matches up with the M8 viewfinder? The 24mm lines are a bit in so I'd imagine the entire finder to be around 21-22mm. If that is the case then I could definitely swing a 21, otherwise I may need to stick with 24/25 since I don't want to use an external finder.
Will do a little reading on the 28 Skopar though, you have me intrigued...
On a different note, found an Angelo Pelle case that's heading this way now for half off new price, and it hasn't been used. They look gorgeous in pictures so will be fun to see.
So I headed out to the antique show this weekend with a friend after her husband asked us if we could drop off the possum in a live trap that he had trapped from under their house the night before. We said sure, and loaded in the back of her brand new suburban. Well, we had a few bloody marys and after and hour and a half, I remembered that we still had the damn vermin in the car!!! We quickly got it out and proceeded to let it loose in the parking lot at the show. You should have seen the faces of the little old ladies in the car behind us - priceless. While my friend figured out how to open the trap and the little old ladies gasped in horror, I (of course) grabbed a camera...
...and with her "mini me" daughter on the stage before the show
pingflood wrote:
The 28s are nice, but wondering if it might be too close to the 40. Then again, it would be like a 35/50 combo which isn't entirely bad... but for a two lens combo maybe too close.
Anyone know how a 21 matches up with the M8 viewfinder? The 24mm lines are a bit in so I'd imagine the entire finder to be around 21-22mm. If that is the case then I could definitely swing a 21, otherwise I may need to stick with 24/25 since I don't want to use an external finder.
Will do a little reading on the 28 Skopar though, you have me intrigued...
On a different note, found an Angelo Pelle case that's heading this way now for half off new price, and it hasn't been used. They look gorgeous in pictures so will be fun to see.
I did not realize you were shooting M8, which is cool
I don't know about the VF lines, in M9 you can't see the 28 lines with glasses.
Those CV 21/4s are easy to find, and really cheap, and super tiny and light. Nothing to carry. The CV 15 could be fantastic on the M8, again some of those are coupled and some not.
The high-performance deal is zm21/2.8, which by all accounts is great lens. 900ish used.
The CV 28/2 or 1.9 Ultron would blend with 40/2 very well I think, and that is a versitile lens, indoors and out. 450ish.
The rare CV 28/3.5 would be fantastic on the M8, I'd expect. It's also tiny but brass or something heavy, so it weighs more than the other skopars but still lighter than 80% of RF lenses. I found it sharper than my 28 cron on the nex-5 in some shots, but corners were showing "digital SA".
There a bunch of sweet 28s: all versions of elmarit--obviously they vary alot, but all are pretty sweet in their own way, M-hex, ZM28, Rokkor 28.
It seems to me 28 would be great FL on the M8, like 35mm on M9.
uhoh7 wrote:
I did not realize you were shooting M8, which is cool
I don't know about the VF lines, in M9 you can't see the 28 lines with glasses.
Those CV 21/4s are easy to find, and really cheap, and super tiny and light. Nothing to carry. The CV 15 could be fantastic on the M8, again some of those are coupled and some not.
The high-performance deal is zm21/2.8, which by all accounts is great lens. 900ish used.
The CV 28/2 or 1.9 Ultron would blend with 40/2 very well I think, and that is a versitile lens, indoors and out. 450ish.
The rare CV 28/3.5 would be fantastic on the M8, I'd expect. It's also tiny but brass or something heavy, so it weighs more than the other skopars but still lighter than 80% of RF lenses. I found it sharper than my 28 cron on the nex-5 in some shots, but corners were showing "digital SA".
There a bunch of sweet 28s: all versions of elmarit--obviously they vary alot, but all are pretty sweet in their own way, M-hex, ZM28, Rokkor 28.
It seems to me 28 would be great FL on the M8, like 35mm on M9.
I'll look a little closer at the 28s! Thank you for all your thoughts. I shoot a mix of B&W and color, the M8 colors are too nice to ignore at times, such a natural look to them.
pingflood wrote:
I'll look a little closer at the 28s! Thank you for all your thoughts. I shoot a mix of B&W and color, the M8 colors are too nice to ignore at times, such a natural look to them.
Only reason I ask is color shift issues, with which I am unfamiliar on M8,
But since it has the thinnest sensor cover, it might be fine.
If that's the case, the CV 15 could be totally off the hook as a UWA for the M8. Any of the 21 finders might be OK for framing. That lens is beyond great on the Nex-5.
Love to see more M8 color shots
is yours the M8 or 8.2?, If the former are you using IR filters?
50 cron is pretty good:
Can you see a hiker? L1021195 by unoh7, on Flickr
I could not when I shot the image
but on review (orig size): L1021195-001 by unoh7, on Flickr
He's near center, but just 1/4 way up on the first sage ridge line
Handheld, mind you, iso
160 SS=1500 f/5.6, I need to try one on my little tripod...
uhoh7 wrote:
Only reason I ask is color shift issues, with which I am unfamiliar on M8,
But since it has the thinnest sensor cover, it might be fine.
If that's the case, the CV 15 could be totally off the hook as a UWA for the M8. Any of the 21 finders might be OK for framing. That lens is beyond great on the Nex-5.
Love to see more M8 color shots
is yours the M8 or 8.2?, If the former are you using IR filters?
I have the original M8; found one in really nice condition with 26k clicks that had just had a visit to Solms for a checkup/cleaning. Absolutely love it. Am using IR filters since I take lots of pics of the kids and the magenta issue is pretty prevalent there, especially with the synthetic fall/winter clothing...
The CV15 has been on my mind on and off; from what I gather the newer version can be used with an IR filter and does not suffer any bad color shifts (worst case you can always use a Cornerfix profile, right?). Might be a little too wide for pairing with the 40, but if I squeeze a 28 in there it would make a pretty flexible three lens setup. Will have to do some thinking here!
pingflood wrote:
I have the original M8; found one in really nice condition with 26k clicks that had just had a visit to Solms for a checkup/cleaning. Absolutely love it. Am using IR filters since I take lots of pics of the kids and the magenta issue is pretty prevalent there, especially with the synthetic fall/winter clothing...
The CV15 has been on my mind on and off; from what I gather the newer version can be used with an IR filter and does not suffer any bad color shifts (worst case you can always use a Cornerfix profile, right?). Might be a little too wide for pairing with the 40, but if I squeeze a 28 in there it would make a pretty flexible three lens setup. Will have to do some thinking here!
How wide do you want to go? Btw the new CV15 has just been released so it might be worth waiting for reviews on the new version . I use a 21mm on my M8 but its not easy to compose without an external viewfinder. If you use it enough you could probably get used to it but I find its much easier to stick on an external VF and zone focus.
joe88 wrote:
I agree, shooting the M is faster. The S system has to be looked at from a medium format or near medium format perspective, more suited to planned shots to get the most out of it, although its DSLR like size and design makes it currently the most ergonomic of digital MF cameras...
edwardkaraa wrote:
Joe, please don't post any S2 images anymore, no matter what Michael says...ou know I have a weakness for it ...
Interesting. Joe's S2 pictures in p.1048 #16 have a wonderful quality but, for myself, I am interested in the "35mm aesthetic," rather than in the medium format look, so I would not want an S2.
With my M9-P I've been experimenting some more with VSCO and Replichrome in LR5. The three color pictures below have been processed with VSCO presets and further small adjustments in LR5. However, for B&W pictures, I sometimes find I can only get the look that I want with Silver Efex, as in the fourth picture below.
M9-P | Elmarit-21 ASPH | ISO 640 | VSCO (L-Kodak Gold 800--) Paris
M9-P | Elmarit-21 ASPH | ISO 640 | VSCO (L-Kodak Gold 100+) Paris
M9-P | Macro-Elmar-90 | ISO 320 | VSCO (L-Fuji 400H) Paris
M9-P | Summilux-50 pre-ASPH | ISO 320 | Silver Efex Paris
