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p.3 #17D: The bottom line
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Click here to read the review.Looks like he has a problem with his 7D. It's not my experience at all. Even at 100% it can be scary sharp if you nail the focus.
if you process it will 4-color CFA it does make it a touch softer at 100% than others
that said it still beats a 50D for actual reach by a trace
Tom K. wrote
Make sure you read the following review first.Click here to read the review.
if you process it will 4-color CFA it does make it a touch softer at 100% than others
that said it still beats a 50D for actual reach by a trace
Apr 30, 2010 at 01:07 AM
p.3 #27D: The bottom line
skibum5 wrote:
that seems almost weird on the face of it
the 7D has more reach and the 1D4 bigger frame to capture more light and crisper detail for birds that fill the frame
maybe the 7D AF doesnt handle distant birds as well?
he shoots mostly at the longer end so wants the better body used there?
Seems sensible when ID4 focuses at f8 (he uses converters a lot & the 800 is f5.6) and the 7D is lighter on the shoulder while the heavier 1D4 sits on a tripod with the bigger glass.
that seems almost weird on the face of it
the 7D has more reach and the 1D4 bigger frame to capture more light and crisper detail for birds that fill the frame
maybe the 7D AF doesnt handle distant birds as well?
he shoots mostly at the longer end so wants the better body used there?
Seems sensible when ID4 focuses at f8 (he uses converters a lot & the 800 is f5.6) and the 7D is lighter on the shoulder while the heavier 1D4 sits on a tripod with the bigger glass.
Apr 30, 2010 at 02:27 AM
p.3 #37D: The bottom line
PetKal wrote:
I never buy experimental technology gears. Besides, the camera is still overpriced by about $2,500 in my books. 
Well, than buy cheesy 1.6 crop body overpriced by my books on about $500 ...
Breitling65 wrote
Get mk IV Well, than buy cheesy 1.6 crop body overpriced by my books on about $500 ...
Apr 30, 2010 at 03:44 AM
p.3 #47D: The bottom line
PetKal,
I've been waiting for a few months to upgrade from a 40D to 7D and finally did it 2 weeks ago. I waited also concerned with all the "noise" going around in the Net. I mainly do Bird photography, BIF a lot.
First impression, after 2 weeks and more than 2K shots: why the hell did I waited so long...?
My opinion on your questions:
(1) One of the main advantages. My cropping capability significantly increased from my previous 40D.
(2) Either I just got a very good copy or there are a lot of people with too much free time to pixel peeping. Noise levels are very good for the amount of pixels / sensor size. Pretty good until 1250. Need some work above that but nothing too much. Just another step in the workflow.
But, the excellent behaviour on high ISO is a must. In the first day I took a shot at ISO 3200 and almost fell from my chair when I view it in my 22" screen. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dragoms/4555380399
(3) Yes. Definitely.
(4) Way better than 40D (don't have experience with 50D), and I think better than 1DIIN. Specially in low contrast environments, Servo AF is a lot better in keeping track.
(5) Didn't have a way to measure FPS... and I think most of people giving opinions on this can't either, but quicker than 40D for sure. I haven't had any issue until now, pretty fast.
What I can recommend (because I did it) is:
1. Open the 7D box
2. Read the manual
3. Set-up the 7D
4. Read the manual again, slowly
5. Read again AF custom settings part of the manual, twice
6. Try it, test, test, test...
7. Read the manual on AF again
I think one of the reasons there are so much complains going around is people that just don't RTFM.
PetKal wrote:
(1) Detail recorded and cropping depth. I think that one is pretty much a a gimme. I suspect 7D might be even better than my 1DsMkII in that regard.
(2) Low ISO noise. When I view an image on my 19" screen, and crop a bit, say 30%, I'd like to see no objectionable noise at ISO 100, 200 and 400.
High image croppability does little for me if I end up having to do NR on low ISO captures.
(3) Peripheral AF sensor sensitivity and accuracy. Is it better than 40/50D ?
(4) Servo AF. Is it more like 40/50D or closer to...Show more →
I've been waiting for a few months to upgrade from a 40D to 7D and finally did it 2 weeks ago. I waited also concerned with all the "noise" going around in the Net. I mainly do Bird photography, BIF a lot.
First impression, after 2 weeks and more than 2K shots: why the hell did I waited so long...?
My opinion on your questions:
(1) One of the main advantages. My cropping capability significantly increased from my previous 40D.
(2) Either I just got a very good copy or there are a lot of people with too much free time to pixel peeping. Noise levels are very good for the amount of pixels / sensor size. Pretty good until 1250. Need some work above that but nothing too much. Just another step in the workflow.
But, the excellent behaviour on high ISO is a must. In the first day I took a shot at ISO 3200 and almost fell from my chair when I view it in my 22" screen. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dragoms/4555380399
(3) Yes. Definitely.
(4) Way better than 40D (don't have experience with 50D), and I think better than 1DIIN. Specially in low contrast environments, Servo AF is a lot better in keeping track.
(5) Didn't have a way to measure FPS... and I think most of people giving opinions on this can't either, but quicker than 40D for sure. I haven't had any issue until now, pretty fast.
What I can recommend (because I did it) is:
1. Open the 7D box
2. Read the manual
3. Set-up the 7D
4. Read the manual again, slowly
5. Read again AF custom settings part of the manual, twice
6. Try it, test, test, test...
7. Read the manual on AF again
I think one of the reasons there are so much complains going around is people that just don't RTFM.
PetKal wrote:
(1) Detail recorded and cropping depth. I think that one is pretty much a a gimme. I suspect 7D might be even better than my 1DsMkII in that regard.
(2) Low ISO noise. When I view an image on my 19" screen, and crop a bit, say 30%, I'd like to see no objectionable noise at ISO 100, 200 and 400.
High image croppability does little for me if I end up having to do NR on low ISO captures.
(3) Peripheral AF sensor sensitivity and accuracy. Is it better than 40/50D ?
(4) Servo AF. Is it more like 40/50D or closer to...Show more →
Apr 30, 2010 at 04:05 AM
p.3 #57D: The bottom line
The outer AF points in servo mode is the one improvement that will really make a difference for your kind of use, as compared to the 40D, IMO.
Being able to rely on those points in an APS-C camera will give you framing and composition possibilites for (B/P/D/S)IFs with a keeper rate no other Canon camera can.
Being able to rely on those points in an APS-C camera will give you framing and composition possibilites for (B/P/D/S)IFs with a keeper rate no other Canon camera can.
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:04 AM
p.3 #67D: The bottom line
I wasn't happy with my 7D even after reading the manual several times until I watched the event videos at B&H. They really cleared up some questions and made it clear what to expect from the camera. Like having a tutor you can play over and over. You cannot compare it to any other cam... Its not a MKIII or a 5D but I find it to exceed my expectations after learning how to use it properly...Watch the videos.
Jerry Z
http://www.video.bhphotovideo.com/index.jsp?fr_chl=d252ff8377eeca37691a416d3926942ad6b34b00
Jerry Z
http://www.video.bhphotovideo.com/index.jsp?fr_chl=d252ff8377eeca37691a416d3926942ad6b34b00
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:19 AM
p.3 #77D: The bottom line
Just get an used 7D... if only to see what the latest Canon tech is all about. Don't like it, sell it
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:22 AM
p.3 #87D: The bottom line
Thank you all for your good input.
I think I'll go to my Henry's camera store today and try a demo 7D on my 100L lens. Hopefully their demo is representative and not busted somehow.
I should be able to get a bit of a feel for detail and cropping of files, ISO noise and FPS in low light, perhaps even the precision of peripheral AF points.
However, I will not be able to check Servo AF.
I think I'll go to my Henry's camera store today and try a demo 7D on my 100L lens. Hopefully their demo is representative and not busted somehow.
I should be able to get a bit of a feel for detail and cropping of files, ISO noise and FPS in low light, perhaps even the precision of peripheral AF points.
However, I will not be able to check Servo AF.
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:39 AM
p.3 #97D: The bottom line
I'm very happy with mine. Fast AF lock and great tracking for BIF. The outer AF points are as accurate as the center point.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/large-1.jpg
100% crop
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/DPP.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/large-1.jpg
100% crop
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/DPP.jpg
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:43 AM
p.3 #107D: The bottom line
Zenon Char wrote:
100% crop
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/DPP.jpg
Now THIS is sharp
What lens/aperture was used?
100% crop
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/DPP.jpg
Now THIS is sharp
What lens/aperture was used?
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:53 AM
p.3 #117D: The bottom line
I can honestly say the 7d changed the way I use a DSLR. While I had made a few vids with my old Nikon Rubic Cube P&S bodies and did own a Sony "see thru clothes" camcorder I was far from a video guy.
I live in a condo in Florida which has developed a leak in the utility room and during one rain storm I made a video of water leaking into a bucket on the floor and sent it to my lawyer. Her comment was "that camera paid for itself", and she had no idea what the camera cost.
The IQ of the video was so good that I started experimenting with a few wildlife videos. I also started using live view a whole lot more, even with my still shooting. In the past I had never thought live view was all that important, but when I mount a big lens (500/f4 or Sigma 300-800) on a body with live view and crank it up to 5X or 10X it can be a real eye opener.
This is not to say that any of this has any bearing on the issue of your buying a 7d. I do consider mine a first rate DSLR and think you would be happy with it; but I am not sure it would do everything you want. The IQ (especially noise at hi ISO) is very much a question of did you nail the exposure. I tend to be what I call a risky shooter. I shoot M 99% of the time often in H and Auto Servo; usually stuff like birds on a stick, BIF, and other wildlife. A 500/f4 is my lens of choice, but I often shoot with two bodies and lens; the 7d on the 500 and a 1d4 on a 400/5.6; my thinking is the 7d/500 gives the best reach and the 1d4/400 will focus faster on close in pop ups. As a result of my shooting style (and not first rate skill level) I often get a whole lot of deletes and a low keeper rate. But when I nail the exposure and focus with the 7d the IQ is as good as it gets. I also do a lot of macro and like the 7d on my Sigma 150 macro with a 1.4 TC or the 500/f4 with stacked tubes. While the 1d4 is a great body and I love it the 1.6 crop of the 7d provided more DOF for macro and for those BIF shots where AF is not dead on. I also do some astrophotography attaching the bare 7d to a telescope. The live view is a god send when displayed on a monitor in the dome where my telescope is.
While it is worthwhile to look at images posted in threads like this I often wonder how many images were deleted before a keeper to post was captured. Almost any modern DSLR can produce nice images given enough time and effort. What you really want to know is will the 7d consistently produce more keepers for you than some other body (excluding a 1d4). My answer to this question is yes, if you modify your shooting style to take advantage of the 7d and its capabilities.
You are right that if you wait the 7d will drop in price, but this will be because Canon has just released the 8d, or 9d or 10d (well probably not a 10d) with more features. Then you will be faced with the question should I buy an 8d or wait for the price drop.
YMMV
I live in a condo in Florida which has developed a leak in the utility room and during one rain storm I made a video of water leaking into a bucket on the floor and sent it to my lawyer. Her comment was "that camera paid for itself", and she had no idea what the camera cost.
The IQ of the video was so good that I started experimenting with a few wildlife videos. I also started using live view a whole lot more, even with my still shooting. In the past I had never thought live view was all that important, but when I mount a big lens (500/f4 or Sigma 300-800) on a body with live view and crank it up to 5X or 10X it can be a real eye opener.
This is not to say that any of this has any bearing on the issue of your buying a 7d. I do consider mine a first rate DSLR and think you would be happy with it; but I am not sure it would do everything you want. The IQ (especially noise at hi ISO) is very much a question of did you nail the exposure. I tend to be what I call a risky shooter. I shoot M 99% of the time often in H and Auto Servo; usually stuff like birds on a stick, BIF, and other wildlife. A 500/f4 is my lens of choice, but I often shoot with two bodies and lens; the 7d on the 500 and a 1d4 on a 400/5.6; my thinking is the 7d/500 gives the best reach and the 1d4/400 will focus faster on close in pop ups. As a result of my shooting style (and not first rate skill level) I often get a whole lot of deletes and a low keeper rate. But when I nail the exposure and focus with the 7d the IQ is as good as it gets. I also do a lot of macro and like the 7d on my Sigma 150 macro with a 1.4 TC or the 500/f4 with stacked tubes. While the 1d4 is a great body and I love it the 1.6 crop of the 7d provided more DOF for macro and for those BIF shots where AF is not dead on. I also do some astrophotography attaching the bare 7d to a telescope. The live view is a god send when displayed on a monitor in the dome where my telescope is.
While it is worthwhile to look at images posted in threads like this I often wonder how many images were deleted before a keeper to post was captured. Almost any modern DSLR can produce nice images given enough time and effort. What you really want to know is will the 7d consistently produce more keepers for you than some other body (excluding a 1d4). My answer to this question is yes, if you modify your shooting style to take advantage of the 7d and its capabilities.
You are right that if you wait the 7d will drop in price, but this will be because Canon has just released the 8d, or 9d or 10d (well probably not a 10d) with more features. Then you will be faced with the question should I buy an 8d or wait for the price drop.
YMMV
Apr 30, 2010 at 05:59 AM
p.3 #127D: The bottom line
Tom K. wrote:
Make sure you read the following review first.
Click here to read the review.
That review pretty much sums up my experience with the 7D. I absolutely loved the handling and features of the camera, but when it came down the file quality, I was disappointed when trying to crop in tight for bird shots. If I didn't have to crop the image more than 50%, results were fine, but anything more than that and things got ugly. I've since sold it for a 1DsII love the output of that camera.
Make sure you read the following review first.
Click here to read the review.
That review pretty much sums up my experience with the 7D. I absolutely loved the handling and features of the camera, but when it came down the file quality, I was disappointed when trying to crop in tight for bird shots. If I didn't have to crop the image more than 50%, results were fine, but anything more than that and things got ugly. I've since sold it for a 1DsII love the output of that camera.
Apr 30, 2010 at 06:53 AM
p.3 #137D: The bottom line
I'm thinking about upgrading my wife's xt to a 7d instead of a T2i. It just looks like a lot of camera for the money (800 vs 1300 w/ current deals) and it would make me a better backup camera compared to the 40d that I currently use. I don't think depreciation will be that bad on this camera...probably drop to around $850 in a couple of years. In my opinion anything less than $1 a day is not bad for new camera technology.
Apr 30, 2010 at 07:06 AM
p.3 #147D: The bottom line
dragom wrote:
What I can recommend (because I did it) is:
1. Open the 7D box
2. Read the manual
3. Set-up the 7D
4. Read the manual again, slowly
5. Read again AF custom settings part of the manual, twice
6. Try it, test, test, test...
7. Read the manual on AF again
I think one of the reasons there are so much complains going around is people that just don't RTFM.
And you can watch these..
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3167
What I can recommend (because I did it) is:
1. Open the 7D box
2. Read the manual
3. Set-up the 7D
4. Read the manual again, slowly
5. Read again AF custom settings part of the manual, twice
6. Try it, test, test, test...
7. Read the manual on AF again
I think one of the reasons there are so much complains going around is people that just don't RTFM.
And you can watch these..
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3167
Apr 30, 2010 at 07:07 AM
p.3 #157D: The bottom line
Boatload of stuff....
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=768556
B&H videos are also very good.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=768556
B&H videos are also very good.
Apr 30, 2010 at 07:11 AM
p.3 #167D: The bottom line
PetKal wrote:
(1) Detail recorded and cropping depth. I think that one is pretty much a a gimme. I suspect 7D might be even better than my 1DsMkII in that regard.
You'll have more freedom for cropping with the 7D but, I'd still argue the 1DsMkII is recording more detail up through ISO 3200.
PetKal wrote:
(2) Low ISO noise. When I view an image on my 19" screen, and crop a bit, say 30%, I'd like to see no objectionable noise at ISO 100, 200 and 400.
High image croppability does little for me if I end up having to do NR on low ISO captures.
This is subjective but, under certain conditions, I see more noise than I'd like with the 7D around ISO 400. That's when viewing at 100%. My 40D, when viewed at 100% seems to show less but, if I upres the 40D's image to match the 7D, the 7D is visibly cleaner and more detailed. I also don't see this noise in actual prints.
PetKal wrote:
(3) Peripheral AF sensor sensitivity and accuracy. Is it better than 40/50D ?
Yes but, there is a learning curve to the 7D's AF system. At least there was for me.
PetKal wrote:
(4) Servo AF. Is it more like 40/50D or closer to 1DMkII(N) ? Or perhaps better than any of those ? (Honestly, I haven't used a Canon camera yet that would floor me with its Servo AF performance. That's where I need help more than anywhere else.)
Never shot a 1D so I can't comment but it is easily better than the 40D/50D. There just isn't any comparison between the 40D and 7D in terms of AF performance.
PetKal wrote:
(5) Low light FPS. What's the real scoop here ? If FPS is exposure sensitive, where does it kick back to a lower FPS and what would that FPS be ?
I don't have a hard answer but, my camera will 8fps in good light. It does slow down in low-light but, that's clearly stated in the owner's manual.
Apr 30, 2010 at 07:32 AM
p.3 #177D: The bottom line
PetKal wrote:
I never buy experimental technology gears. Besides, the camera is still overpriced by about $2,500 in my books.
If this is the case then why even consider the 7D other than price point? As you can clearly see and even stated in your opening post reviews are highly skewed. Canon has just put the 7D on another $100 instant rebate which may say some thing about the current price/value point. There are numerous very lightly used 7D's on the buy/sell forum for roughly $250-300 under retail already so it's not exactly holding it's value very well. A more revealing "tell" about the 7D may be the sheer abundance of 7D's that have hit the Buy/Sell forum in such a short time. I don't believe I've ever seen so many virtually new cameras being sold this rapidly in the past at such a steep discount.
I think birders may be the happiest of the bunch with this camera and certainly those with a solid work flow. Post becomes a bit more involved and more necessary with the 7D although that is likely going to be the case with any body that crams 18MP on an APS-C sensor.
To answer you question from my experience with the 7D.
1) No response required.
2) If you don't expect to do any noise processing at even low ISO's then you are going to be disappointed with the 7D. It's just that simple. NR is a requirement on this camera. IMO you may want to consider how 18MP will resolve detail if you shoot in low light situations as well. One of the reasons for so many polarized reviews (IMO) is that we each often fail consider how I/we use a camera may be far different from the next person. Of course there are other reasons as well.
3) Yes with out question (IMO).
4) In some respects it's better than the 50D, in others not as good. The frame rate is tied to the metering system. In low light the 7D frame rate falls to 4fps. That's slower than the 50D. If you have your custom settings correct in bright light you can hit 8fps. There are a few CS that will reduce that to 7fps.
The biggest disparity of opinion in many of the forums now (IMO) is that we get so many who just have to opine and share their views about a particular camera they have never owned or used. Then there's the group that are just so overtly sensitive that they get their ru-barb rubbed the wrong way if an item they bought or like is not universally loved by every one.
So goes the internet.
Edited on Apr 30, 2010 at 09:18 AM · View previous versions
Breitling65 wrote
Get mk IV If this is the case then why even consider the 7D other than price point? As you can clearly see and even stated in your opening post reviews are highly skewed. Canon has just put the 7D on another $100 instant rebate which may say some thing about the current price/value point. There are numerous very lightly used 7D's on the buy/sell forum for roughly $250-300 under retail already so it's not exactly holding it's value very well. A more revealing "tell" about the 7D may be the sheer abundance of 7D's that have hit the Buy/Sell forum in such a short time. I don't believe I've ever seen so many virtually new cameras being sold this rapidly in the past at such a steep discount.
I think birders may be the happiest of the bunch with this camera and certainly those with a solid work flow. Post becomes a bit more involved and more necessary with the 7D although that is likely going to be the case with any body that crams 18MP on an APS-C sensor.
To answer you question from my experience with the 7D.
1) No response required.
2) If you don't expect to do any noise processing at even low ISO's then you are going to be disappointed with the 7D. It's just that simple. NR is a requirement on this camera. IMO you may want to consider how 18MP will resolve detail if you shoot in low light situations as well. One of the reasons for so many polarized reviews (IMO) is that we each often fail consider how I/we use a camera may be far different from the next person. Of course there are other reasons as well.
3) Yes with out question (IMO).
4) In some respects it's better than the 50D, in others not as good. The frame rate is tied to the metering system. In low light the 7D frame rate falls to 4fps. That's slower than the 50D. If you have your custom settings correct in bright light you can hit 8fps. There are a few CS that will reduce that to 7fps.
The biggest disparity of opinion in many of the forums now (IMO) is that we get so many who just have to opine and share their views about a particular camera they have never owned or used. Then there's the group that are just so overtly sensitive that they get their ru-barb rubbed the wrong way if an item they bought or like is not universally loved by every one.
So goes the internet.
Edited on Apr 30, 2010 at 09:18 AM · View previous versions
Apr 30, 2010 at 08:17 AM
p.3 #187D: The bottom line
Have you moved to Nikon yet ?..Maybe you can help create havoc there ? 
DLP wrote:
I never buy experimental technology gears. Besides, the camera is still overpriced by about $2,500 in my books. If this is the case then why even consider the 7D? As you can clearly see and even stated in your opening post reviews are highly skewed. Canon has just put the 7D on another $100 instant rebate which may say some thing about the current price point. They are selling very lightly used for roughly $250-300 under retail already so it's not exactly holding it's value very well. A more revealing "tell" about the 7D may be the abundance of 7D's that have hit the Buy/Sell forum in such a short time. I don't believe I've ever seen so...Show more →
DLP wrote:
PetKal wrote
Breitling65 wrote
Get mk IVApr 30, 2010 at 08:24 AM
p.3 #197D: The bottom line
Imagemaster wrote:
I don't own a 7D
The fact that you don't own a 7D and don't know for yourself speaks volumes about your following comments.
but from all the owners' comments I have read, the vast majority are impressed with the IQ and AF, and have no problems with noise. To me, that suggests the minority of complaints are user faults, rather than the camera's.
I can post RAW samples at ISO 100 that have lots of noise. Of course they can be cleaned up in PP, but dumping so many megapixels on a tiny sensor has to take a toll right? Now, I've seen the argument over and over "print it out and see if the noise appears on prints, etc". I don't care. I rarely print. It can very well be sample-to-sample variation - just like many L lenses. Why're you guys not surprised when people end up with soft L lenses, and then exchange it for sharp ones? Isn't that the same thing? Sample-to-sample variation?
Either way .. except for this issue (and I do own a 7D, by the way) .. I do love the camera and other than a much more expensive 1d series, I don't see another alternative in the Canon lineup.
Most of these were taken with the 7D
http://light.smugmug.com/Nature/Birds/New/11387659_5547R#834174819_RhueT
I don't own a 7D
The fact that you don't own a 7D and don't know for yourself speaks volumes about your following comments.
but from all the owners' comments I have read, the vast majority are impressed with the IQ and AF, and have no problems with noise. To me, that suggests the minority of complaints are user faults, rather than the camera's.
I can post RAW samples at ISO 100 that have lots of noise. Of course they can be cleaned up in PP, but dumping so many megapixels on a tiny sensor has to take a toll right? Now, I've seen the argument over and over "print it out and see if the noise appears on prints, etc". I don't care. I rarely print. It can very well be sample-to-sample variation - just like many L lenses. Why're you guys not surprised when people end up with soft L lenses, and then exchange it for sharp ones? Isn't that the same thing? Sample-to-sample variation?
Either way .. except for this issue (and I do own a 7D, by the way
) .. I do love the camera and other than a much more expensive 1d series, I don't see another alternative in the Canon lineup.Most of these were taken with the 7D
http://light.smugmug.com/Nature/Birds/New/11387659_5547R#834174819_RhueT
Apr 30, 2010 at 08:41 AM
p.3 #207D: The bottom line
saaketham wrote:
I love the 7D .. except for the low-ISO noise, which, whatever anyone says .. is pretty obvious. I don't want to start the same argument again, but ... I love the 7D for its impressive detail, AF, and the way it shines with a well-resolving lens.
+1
I love the 7D .. except for the low-ISO noise, which, whatever anyone says .. is pretty obvious. I don't want to start the same argument again, but ... I love the 7D for its impressive detail, AF, and the way it shines with a well-resolving lens.
+1
Apr 30, 2010 at 09:12 AM