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wayne seltzer
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p.7 #1 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


I guess choices for a fast 24/1.4 or 36mm effective would be either the uber expensive Leica M 24/1.4 or the new Nikon 24/1.4 G adapted for a "mere" half of the 'Lux ($2200).


May 11, 2010 at 07:21 PM
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p.7 #2 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


With the lenses Sony's offering here, you have to wonder if they aren't assuming that people will just forego their lenses and adapt other mounts to it?

The 16/2.8 appears to be a dog toy from the IR test. The 18-55 isn't a whole lot better, and it's pretty big. The 18-200 is comically large.

From what I see, these cameras will live and die based on their handling with alt lenses. It's too bad they aren't offering an EVF, because many people who use alt lenses like viewfinders, too.

The more the merrier, but Sony certainly left some holes in these first two cameras for the competition to exploit.



May 11, 2010 at 08:34 PM
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p.7 #3 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Great news the path that Sony are taking. Very much like Olympus when it first introduced the EP-1. I loved the EP-1, and I used 43 lenses with the adapter, such as the Oly 50mm macro. Great combo, but the IQ did not compare to the 5DII in medium and low light. I ended using the 5DII with zeiss lenses, as this is IQ that I prefer. For a P&S, there are some great cameras now at low ISO's.
I am personally looking to forward to a FF Sony with Zeiss lenses. Everything else is a compromise.

If you want a light P&S at low ISO's, they are available. These cameras do produce excellent images, poster size shots which are very acceptable.

I don't think you can have a excellent APS or FF sensor and lenses don't match, or have inferior IQ.



May 11, 2010 at 09:33 PM
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p.7 #4 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


For everyone complaining about the size of the 18-55, it's the diminutive size of the camera (a good thing!!) that's confusing you.

Sony E-mount 18-55: 62 x 60mm
Nikon F-mount 18-55: 73 x 79.5mm

And as for everyone already complaining about no EVF, soft lenses, etc... the thing was just announced! Give it some time.

If in 4-5 years there is a full frame version that's not much bigger with a Zeiss 35mm lens I will be ecstatic. Until then I'll wait.



May 11, 2010 at 11:05 PM
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p.7 #5 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


+1


May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM
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p.7 #6 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


thrice wrote:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX5/NEX5A4.HTM


Great center. Awful corners. I wonder how much it will matter to P&S shooters but DSLR shooters will probably be dismayed. I wonder how good lenses will perform on it.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



May 12, 2010 at 01:47 AM
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p.7 #7 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


looks like wides are adapted onto other lenses
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex5/
"Sony is also taking the unusual step of offering screw-on adapterlenses for its 16mm F2.8 pancake lens (they attach to the bayonet of the lens so can't be used with other lenses). In a manner familiar from compact cameras, it will be possible to adapt the lens from its usual 24mm equivalent field-of-view using either an ultra-wide adapter taking it to 20mm equivalent or a fisheye that gives a 16mm equivalent view."

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex5/Images/converter-UW.jpg;

23.4 x 15.6 mm Exmor APS HD CMOS Sensor is a tad smaller than Nikon 1.5x



May 12, 2010 at 02:48 AM
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p.7 #8 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


I don't think the currently offered lenses are claimed to be anything but entry level amateur grade. I'm sure the better lenses will be labelled G or Zeiss.


May 12, 2010 at 03:22 AM
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p.7 #9 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


I've measured and adapted a 34 lux asph to the NEX-5 (in photoshop).

If you're on a 24" 1920x1200 monitor (or any monitor with 94.34 ppi) then this is life size as well.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/NEX5AS.png



May 12, 2010 at 04:26 AM
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p.7 #10 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Yakim Peled wrote:
Great center. Awful corners. I wonder how much it will matter to P&S shooters but DSLR shooters will probably be dismayed. I wonder how good lenses will perform on it.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Really? The center has loads of CA, for a prime lens that doesn't have to be a retrofocus or fast optical design. Very poor all round IMO.



May 12, 2010 at 04:29 AM
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p.7 #11 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


thrice wrote:
Really? The center has loads of CA, for a prime lens that doesn't have to be a retrofocus or fast optical design. Very poor all round IMO.


I was generally speaking about both lenses.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



May 12, 2010 at 04:39 AM
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p.7 #12 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Ok, no problems. Given the cost of the lenses I think the observed performance is to be expected


May 12, 2010 at 04:40 AM
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p.7 #13 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


thrice wrote:
I've measured and adapted a 34 lux asph to the NEX-5 (in photoshop).

If you're on a 24" 1920x1200 monitor (or any monitor with 94.34 ppi) then this is life size as well.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/NEX5AS.png


That actually looks like a nice combination



May 12, 2010 at 05:02 AM
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p.7 #14 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


thrice wrote:
I've measured and adapted a 34 lux asph to the NEX-5 (in photoshop).

If you're on a 24" 1920x1200 monitor (or any monitor with 94.34 ppi) then this is life size as well.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/NEX5AS.png


that looks great, i will probably use the voigtlander equiv (or maybe contax g) to save money (i wish i could afford the lux) and space though.



May 12, 2010 at 06:57 AM
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p.7 #15 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Cool, thrice. Looks great, although I think the adapter may be smaller at only 9-10mm, no?


May 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM
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p.7 #16 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


I really like the look of the NEX-5, but wish there was a better selection of lenses (without using adapters). I'd love something a bit less wide than the 16mm without the bulk of the 18-55. I think I'm going to end up picking up the NEX-5/16mm anyway - this looks like a really fun camera, and so easy to carry around.

Justin



May 12, 2010 at 12:36 PM
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p.7 #17 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


zeissrumors says that there will be new Zeiss lenses released for this camera. It might be good to wait a little


May 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM
wayne seltzer
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p.7 #18 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Hopefully, they will roll out faster than ZA lenses. !
Hope they start with a fast 24 prime, 36mm eff, as I want to shoot it indoors low light.



May 12, 2010 at 12:48 PM
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p.7 #19 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


Oh yes

Zeiss AF 24 2.0 and I´ve finally found a pocket cam. Lets just hope for a more conventional camera control interface soon.



May 12, 2010 at 01:29 PM
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p.7 #20 · Sony NEX as a Leica M8 alternative


RGB. wrote:
Oh yes

Zeiss AF 24 2.0 and I´ve finally found a pocket cam. Lets just hope for a more conventional camera control interface soon.


+1



May 12, 2010 at 01:57 PM
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