We don't really know what the mount diameter or registration is, yet. From the looks of things to me, the NEX diameter is near A-mount dimensions, which would facilitate fullframe in the future. The a-mount is 50mm in diameter, and the M mount is 44mm. As long as the NEX diameter is greater than M mount, and the registration is shorter than M mount, we should be ok for using M lenses. I looks to me like M mount will work, but we'll have to wait for the specs.
Samsung really screwed up by not allowing M mount adaptations on the NX. The registration is good, but the diameter is too small. Due to the diameter size, Samsung would have needed to make the registration another few millimeters shorter.
I really hope M lenses work. Until Zeiss comes up with their own, native NEX lenses, I would love to mount a ZM 35 f2 on the NEX.
It's funny, I'll probably buy the camera with an AF pancake just so I have a camera mum/dad/girlfriend can use but the impossibility of using M lenses on the Samsung NX is exactly why I'm not interested in one of those cameras. I wonder if Samsung deliberately did it to try and get people to buy their lenses? So instead of selling me a body and only one lens, they get to sell me... nothing
thrice wrote:
It's funny, I'll probably buy the camera with an AF pancake just so I have a camera mum/dad/girlfriend can use but the impossibility of using M lenses on the Samsung NX is exactly why I'm not interested in one of those cameras. I wonder if Samsung deliberately did it to try and get people to buy their lenses? So instead of selling me a body and only one lens, they get to sell me... nothing
For those doubting the quality of the Sony lenses, you may be pleasantly surprised. Sony has an excellent record in lens design. The few low end Minolta-inherited, Sony-rebadged lenses should not be taken into account. The 70-300 and 70-400, completely new designs by Sony, are both excellent. The glass being used on their video cameras and high end P&S is also excellent. Surely not at the level of Leica/Zeiss but imho as good or better than the competition.
PS: Before someone jumps at me regarding the Minolta thing, I do not mean that Minolta glass isn't good, but that Sony chose to re-use some cheaper not so great Minolta designs, the exceptions being the 50/1.4, 70-200/2.8, and the 300/2.8.
Edward, all I suggested was that hoping for a Sony NEX to equal the IQ of a Leica M8 included comparing the performance of a Sony pancake to that of a Leica prime. While you rightly point out that Sony is a respectable lens designer with Minolta heritage and a cooperation with Zeiss, that comparison is still a steep hill to climb IMHO.
Hi Phil, certainly I wouldn't expect the 16 pancake to equal Leica performance. I would be suprised though if it isn't a very decent performer. I do have high hopes in the oncoming Zeiss lenses however.
It is official now. According to the Sony rumours site, Sony Hong Kong has sent invitations for the May 11 announcement, 12:45 PM local time.
I'm very excited about this, even though I personally have no interest in the proposed models and lenses, but have great expectations in the models and lenses that will follow, namely the FF version and Zeiss lenses.
oh yea... an FF NEX with zeiss lenses (even if its adapted ZM lenses)... oh I drooling already... especially if they have an excellent EVF and keep the sony in body IS... my canon stuff would be gone in an instant (though I think I'd try to adapt the zeiss 100/2 Makro planar to this new cam... I just cant give that thing up...its too good )
edwardkaraa wrote:
It is official now. According to the Sony rumours site, Sony Hong Kong has sent invitations for the May 11 announcement, 12:45 PM local time.
I'm very excited about this, even though I personally have no interest in the proposed models and lenses, but have great expectations in the models and lenses that will follow, namely the FF version and Zeiss lenses.
perhaps not the upcoming NEX cameras but Im hoping something will spawn from them in the not-to-distant future that'll have those features... Sony has everything to gain from putting out a game changing camera like that since they're the underdogs compared to Nikon and Canon (especially) who aren't really likely to enter this arena and would probably rather just keep pushing people into their dSLR lineup.
thrice wrote:
Pretty sure there isn't IBIS on the NEX cameras but we'll wait and see on Monday/Tuesday.
I also doubt this will ever be a FF range for them. But perhaps I'm just being pessimistic.
There is no IBIS on the coming NEX cameras. Sony decided to stabilize the lenses instead.
So far the rumors about the NEX have been all correct. So I truly believe the rest of the rumors: High end APS-C model in September (NEX 7) and FF in 2011.
Perhaps Sony may add IBIS in the high end bodies, who knows?
Add an accurate optical manual focusing system and it's an M9 (minus of course a large chunk of build quality and charm). I think the popularity of the M9 took a lot of other manufacturers by surprise. What most people don't realise is the process from concept to R&D to complete product is several years. So when people get snippy and say things like "why doesn't SoCaNiMpus just release a full frame mirrorless camera for way cheaper?" well, it's cos they have to design and develop it first. I'm sure we'll see one, but by that time it's 2011, and only one more year til the M10, for which Leica may be able to reduce costs, or greatly improve high ISO (which measurbators seem to care most about) as well as include some wanky features like video.
Either way, I'd pick up a FF one of these if they were small, but if I have to wait til next year I'll just get the APS-C one as I'm only using it for video, not serious shooting. Watch them squash my dreams by making adapting M lenses impossible
morpheus2891: yes, it is established Sony procedure to churn out a few start up models to see what is selling, often with just one feature differing from one another. Like they have done with the Alphas.
However, since it is an entirely new system they seem to have gone to some length to make them "right" from the get go. I think the NEX 5 will be ok, the NEX 3 with cheaper body construction and feel, 720p instead of 1080p and just a $100 price difference will probably be the model that will probably be replaced/upgraded quite fast.
I can see myself getting the NEX 5 and the 16mm to try it out and I hope for a slimline NEX full frame camera, I will probably not get the NEX 7 but wait and see if the NEX 9 is the ticket for a small traveling companion. The pipe dream is a full frame camera in the same format as the NEX 5, articulated LCD, Zeiss lenses and IBIS. I could actually skip the viewfinder if that was the case. (I never thought I'd say that!) I would not mind a few extra mm body thickness to accomodate IBIS.
Anything the Zeiss - sorry... size - of a Contax G and lenses would do brilliantly thank you very much please with sugar on top.
There are a lot of sources indicating that Sony will price the NEX series very aggressively and latest I heard was around $800 - or even slightly below that mark - for the NEX 5 with the 16mm/kit lens. Pricing is the same for either combination. Sounds good to me.
There could be a slight problem with adapting M lenses to this camera, namely if the sensor isn't optimized for a very short rear lens-to-sensor distance. The digital Leica M:s have an offset array of microlenses on the sensor, to deal with a flat angle of infalling light. With a traditional non-offset array, you'll probably get severe vignetting and perhaps color shifts towards the corners.
but the impossibility of using M lenses on the Samsung NX is exactly why I'm not interested in one of those cameras. I wonder if Samsung deliberately did it to try and get people to buy their lenses? So instead of selling me a body and only one lens, they get to sell me... nothing 
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