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p.22 #1 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


If Fred thought this thread was a veiled solicitation, it would have been closed by now. It stands as a goodwill gesture until then. Some people genuinely enjoy helping others.


Jan 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM
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p.22 #2 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Sorry that you didn't get the fact that I was being ironic.

"And while you've appointed yourself in your mind, "the keeper of the forum" and "self proclaimed mentor of newbies", your not the only person that gets PM's, Emails, Phone Calls about photography. I've never turned down a request from anyone who ask me a question about photography."
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"Like I said before, you are trying to force a sticky down our throats. If the powers at be decide to make your Godly post a sticky, I'm fine with that. But constantly bumping it is nothing short of arrogant and irritating.

Now...

STOP THE MADNESS"
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"Steady is only the one who has the spirit to help other photographers here to learn and have fun with your photography."
-10 Not True.

There are many of people on this forum and others who help others, but they don't ask them to come to their website to learn "the World According to Steady". For every "rule" in Photography, there is an exception. Most of the "advice" I see on this forum turn interesting photographs into average, mediocre images.

There was once a quote about a Samurai, I can't remember most of it, but the end of it (and the point of it) was that he died in a classic stance. He was so adherent to the "rules" that it was his undoing.

You have a website Steady, why are you trying to control this one?


And another bump.............





Jan 23, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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Pfiltz wrote:
Steady....

Maybe you should consider that there are many types in this world, with different views, different ways of making a point, different styles of communication, etc... and although they may not line up perfectly in the Steady world of thinking, it doesn't necessarily make it bad.

I had a really, really good and very successful senior photographer tell me once, when I asked him how can I make a really tact sharp image, because I "thought" that was important, say to me, "Any dummy can take a tact sharp image, but why on earth would you want to?"

That's all he
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Pfiltz... up to your usual twisting facts and putting out distortions.

I don't think of myself as a "keeper of the forum."

I don't have time for that role and leave that up to the moderator and Fred.

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I haven't counted the number of times you have posted in this thread, but it seems that almost every time I posted something positive, you would quickly follow with some sarcastic remark in your post and bump.

So it is so funny that you think I have posted so many bumps in this thread. I bet you posted just as many or more!

No one forces you to read this thread, or to post here. That is your choice.

I do not come here to impress you. You are not important at all to me.

You really should find something else to spend your time on.

And I am not on here 24/7.

Though I do stop in often to help others when I get a moment.

In fact, I was out of town at a party having a blast while you were here typing that stuff up above.

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To the FORUM:

The negative stuff (sniping, backbiting, distortions, negative comments about a poster) that some people post in a thread like this are all the more reason this thread exists.

It was written to try to encourage more people to post positive contributions to this forum, instead of the negativism and sniping that sometimes surfaces here on the forum.

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One of the things I suggest for ANYONE and EVERYONE here is that we try to live by the Golden Rule as a community. That simply means: Treat others as you would want to be treated.

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For the Newbies and Lurkers:
There are a few people on this forum who do have a negative attitude and prefer to snipe at people rather than post photos or post positive threads or post constructive comments in threads. . It is one of the unfortunate facts about this forum. I hope you can overlook these people as much as I try to. They are a minority here and while they are consistent and persistent and pesky, they are not the majority. From what I have seen over the last couple of years, they do very little but criticize others whenever they get a chance to do that. I am sure you know people like that are in every group as large as this forum. So, don't be inhibited from posting here.

For the other forum members:
I encourage you all to post what you can in a positive fashion here on this forum. That will make this place better and may attract more Lurkers and Newbies to participate.

It is unfortunate that a thread that is truly intended to project a positive impression of welcome and good will and help to visitors, Newbies and Lurkers attracts so many negative people and their criticisms too.





Jan 23, 2010 at 06:43 PM
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Brad Alexander wrote:
Like I said before, you are trying to force a sticky down our throats. If the powers at be decide to make your Godly post a sticky, I'm fine with that. But constantly bumping it is nothing short of arrogant and irritating.

Now...

STOP THE MADNESS





You can't seem to get away from this thread Brad. Seems like an unhealthy obsession!


By the way, Pfiltz has bumped this thread just as much or MORE than I have.

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To the FORUM:

The negative stuff (sniping, backbiting, distortions, negative comments about a poster) that some people post in a thread like this are all the more reason this thread exists.

It was written to try to encourage more people to post positive contributions to this forum, instead of the negativism and sniping that sometimes surfaces here on the forum.

__________

One of the things I suggest for ANYONE and EVERYONE here is that we try to live by the Golden Rule as a community. That simply means: Treat others as you would want to be treated.

____________

For the Newbies and Lurkers:
There are a few people on this forum who do have a negative attitude and prefer to snipe at people rather than post photos or post positive threads or post constructive comments in threads. . It is one of the unfortunate facts about this forum. I hope you can overlook these people as much as I try to. They are a minority here and while they are consistent and persistent and pesky, they are not the majority. From what I have seen over the last couple of years, they do very little but criticize others whenever they get a chance to do that. I am sure you know people like that are in every group as large as this forum. So, don't be inhibited from posting here.

For the other forum members:
I encourage you all to post what you can in a positive fashion here on this forum. That will make this place better and may attract more Lurkers and Newbies to participate.

It is unfortunate that a thread that is truly intended to project a positive impression of welcome and good will and help to visitors, Newbies and Lurkers attracts so many negative people and their criticisms too.



Jan 23, 2010 at 06:45 PM
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p.22 #5 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Still full of yourself huh Steady. I don't see much connection with this self-aggrandizing thread and people photography

Edited on Jan 23, 2010 at 08:33 PM · View previous versions



Jan 23, 2010 at 06:52 PM
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rhyder wrote:
Sorry that you didn't get the fact that I was being ironic.

"And while you've appointed yourself in your mind, "the keeper of the forum" and "self proclaimed mentor of newbies", your not the only person that gets PM's, Emails, Phone Calls about photography. I've never turned down a request from anyone who ask me a question about photography."
+10

"Like I said before, you are trying to force a sticky down our throats. If the powers at be decide to make your Godly post a sticky, I'm fine with that. But constantly bumping it is nothing short of arrogant and irritating.

Now...

STOP
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Ironic?



I know you try to be "smart" with your posts. And you defend your remarks with statements like "You missed my being ironic."

As if people are supposed to get your irony....and if they don't...they don't "get it."

The samurai was up against Musashi. But that is not important.

I recognize you are smart. I also think it is a shame that "smarts" is not projected in a more friendly and helpful manner on this forum.

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My Suggestion for YOU: Use simple language. Be direct. Communicate openly. Be sincere. Don't use sarcasm and irony because not everyone has your POV or has read what you have read. This is global forum and some may mistake your attempts at irony and sarcasm for negativity and boorishness.

I just ignore those kinds of posts.

My Suggestion for YOU: IF a post or thread is not to your liking, then simply ignore it, or click on the HIDE button to hide that person's remarks.

I suggest to you or anyone else: Spend your time doing something positive for someone else here or the forum.

As I mentioned above, I know you think you are smart. So do some good with that. Post some threads sharing your smarts about photography. Share with others what you can in a positive constructive manner. Start a thread that helps people by sharing your knowledge.

Encourage others. Help this place become a friendlier place.


Edited on Jan 23, 2010 at 07:11 PM · View previous versions



Jan 23, 2010 at 06:55 PM
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PeeWee29 wrote:
I'm with Steady, I believe that this thread can help this forum a place where newbies and lurkers will learn and participate, so don't miss the chance.

Steady is only the one who has the spirit to help other photographers here to learn and have fun with your photography. (Since I started posted here)

Admit it, coz its true

Keep it UP! Steady





Thanks PeeWee.

I know you are not alone in thinking this is a positive thread. But, you have the courage to post something supportive!

Good for you!



Jan 23, 2010 at 06:58 PM
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jmagg wrote:
If Fred thought this thread was a veiled solicitation, it would have been closed by now. It stands as a goodwill gesture until then. Some people genuinely enjoy helping others.



Hi.

Thanks for posting your supportive comments above.

I know just what you mean.

I am glad you can see the intended Goodwill!



Jan 23, 2010 at 07:00 PM
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The difference between your bump and ours is that you do it once the thread has fallen off the first page.

We do it when you have already bumped it to the top, so really, we are not bumping.

Not all bumping is created equal.

STOP THE MADNESS!



Jan 24, 2010 at 02:23 AM
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p.22 #10 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


My bad Steady. 24x6 a day...

BTW, I'm not going back to look at your comment times...

Is the DVD on photography a double pack or single...?



Jan 24, 2010 at 09:05 AM
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p.22 #11 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Brad Alexander wrote:
The difference between your bump and ours is that you do it once the thread has fallen off the first page.

We do it when you have already bumped it to the top, so really, we are not bumping.

Not all bumping is created equal.

STOP THE MADNESS!


My Suggestion for YOU: IF a post or thread is not to your liking, then simply ignore it, or click on the HIDE button to hide that person's remarks.

I suggest to you or anyone else: Spend your time doing something positive for someone else here or the forum.

As I mentioned above, I know you think you are smart. So do some good with that. Post some threads sharing your smarts about photography. Share with others what you can in a positive constructive manner. Start a thread that helps people by sharing your knowledge.

Encourage others. Help this place become a friendlier place.



Jan 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM
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Pfiltz wrote:
My bad Steady. 24x6 a day...

BTW, I'm not going back to look at your comment times...

Is the DVD on photography a double pack or single...?


Hey...I WISH I had the skills to make a DVD or more properly...and better than a "direct to DVD".... a theatrical release...a feature film!

But, IF I did, it would probably be a documentary or a period movie (historical bio pic).

Nope...no DVD from me....not for a few years at least!




Jan 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM
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p.22 #13 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Nah, he had nothing to do with Miyamoto. It was about blindly devoting your life to a set of rules. It was just a parable to illustrate a point. What makes you think I don't like the thread? There's an underlying darkness that I find facinating.


Jan 24, 2010 at 11:39 AM
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STOP THE MADNESS!


Jan 24, 2010 at 12:17 PM
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p.22 #15 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


18 pages for reals? what happened between page 1 and 18 ? can someone give us the cliff notes?

this puts Sergio Mottolla to shame.. I used to think his 5 pager's were crazy. This is indeed MADNESS !



Jan 25, 2010 at 01:21 AM
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p.22 #16 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Wow, how did this thread get so negative?

Oh, and "bump"



Jan 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM
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p.22 #17 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Negative with all the love abound?

Insert Smiley Here ----->



Jan 30, 2010 at 01:19 PM
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p.22 #18 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Positive - Emphasizing what is laudable, hopeful, or to the good; constructive: a positive attitude toward the future; positive things to say about a painting or photograph or people who want to help others. Let's ALL be positive.
Thanks, Steady.
Really - Life is too short.



Feb 01, 2010 at 07:41 PM
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p.22 #19 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


Personally I think your 'help' is suffocating

Everyone has their own photographic journey to make, with many influences, stop baby sitting everyone and get on with your own life..

Let FM be what it will be... Its was fine in 2005 when I first came and it will be fine after you or I have left it..

Jane




Feb 02, 2010 at 07:19 AM
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p.22 #20 · Newbies or New to FM? Tips 4U


"Let's ALL be positive." No, No, NOT. You need to realize that when EVERYTHING is positive....that's a negative.

A man once saw another man taking a drink of water. He said to the man "Be careful with that could kill you". The second man questioned his reasoning, to which he replied "How far can you swim?".

Too much of anything, even a good thing can be bad.

I agree with Jane. Let him do his "control thing" on his own site, leave this one alone.



Feb 02, 2010 at 08:36 AM
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