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Archive 2009 · 7D does Ducks in flight..

  
 
ruhikant
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p.1 #1 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


After all the combinations I tried, the best for me is just the center point and tracking sensitivity is set to moderate slow. Unlike 50D or 5DII, 7D's center point is very potent. I was carried away with AF expansion, while it was joy to track with this set up, perfect focus shots were very few compared with that of center point only. Again, center AF point only gives the best compromise specially with busy BG, and I bump the back AF botton to acquire focus if needed(to overcome the slow tracking sensitivity).
All shots with 400L at about 400-800 ISO.
Note that fast flying ducks against the water BG is not so easy like blue sky.
Full frame:
http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439736_8iobW-O.jpg

Crop:

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439744_4P5Rb-O.jpg

Some shots:
http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439946_DCgMD-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439781_eA2LV-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439818_2xbu9-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439650_zBcZ7-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439673_y9Bva-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439700_RC2Sb-O.jpg
http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439913_yY5R8-XL.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672440052_jibzb-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672440003_F9b25-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439859_Stvxp-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672440092_v2nuu-O.jpg

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/672439848_MeENZ-O.jpg

This one is with EF800.

http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/photos/671172396_aqLTD-O.jpg

Many more here:


http://ruhikant.smugmug.com/Birds/7D-Ducks/9876472_ZhZeU#672439962_D4949








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Oct 06, 2009 at 03:05 PM
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p.1 #2 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Excellent! This is exactly what I was looking for as examples of the AI autofocus with the 7D. Using the single, center focus point without expansion and slow tracking -- that's how I used to set the 1DM3 when I had one.

How much of the frame was filled with the bird? (There's been posts going around forums stating that the focus on the 7D was terrible for BIF, but the subject was only at 5% to 10% of the frame which is totally unrealistic and the crop would look like crap anyway.)

Thanks,

Alan



Oct 06, 2009 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #3 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


AJay wrote:
Excellent! This is exactly what I was looking for as examples of the AI autofocus with the 7D. Using the single, center focus point without expansion and slow tracking -- that's how I used to set the 1DM3 when I had one.

How much of the frame was filled with the bird? (There's been posts going around forums stating that the focus on the 7D was terrible for BIF, but the subject was only at 5% to 10% of the frame which is totally unrealistic and the crop would look like crap anyway.)

Thanks,

Alan

Thanks Alan, most of them are about 40-50% crop, but not sure how much 100% of the VF.



Oct 06, 2009 at 03:29 PM
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p.1 #4 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


That last one's not a duck!

Nice job, ruhikant. Very nice. Both you and the 7D are very capable.

Side note - it looks like your trees are changing colors. What area do you live in?



Oct 06, 2009 at 03:35 PM
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p.1 #5 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Silly question but I have to ask. How much of a help is the pixel density vs ur previous 1.6x body?


Oct 06, 2009 at 03:54 PM
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p.1 #6 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


dolina wrote:
Silly question but I have to ask. How much of a help is the pixel density vs ur previous 1.6x body?

Not much different from 50D(15MPVs18MP) but key is to get sharp pictures.

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Oct 06, 2009 at 04:03 PM
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p.1 #7 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Very well done and very nice images. Thanks for sharing your set up information. Another thing I found that has helped me was going to spot metering.


Oct 06, 2009 at 05:08 PM
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p.1 #8 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Great series! looks like the 7D has an awesome AF - along with your skill.


Oct 06, 2009 at 05:11 PM
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p.1 #9 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


wow, sounds like you guys would buy the 7D so you can shoot with it like you did with much lesser equipment, even tho the 1d3 is a 1d series. The new capabilities sound like they mean 0 to you. Focusing with the center point.....

Real funny yet incredible

Joe



Oct 06, 2009 at 05:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Joe, what do you mean exactly? As far as the "new" capabilities? Are you saying the OP should not be using center point?


Oct 06, 2009 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #11 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


well, the new capabilities include all the focusing options that were not available before in Canon cameras, as I understand it. The OP mentioned "I was carried away with AF expansion, while it was joy to track with this set up, perfect focus shots were very few compared with that of center point only." And there there was deserved commentary for the great pictures.

But the point remains, that the new focusing options in the camera failed, and the center point focusing on a F5.6 lens got the shot. With all the support and lack of surprise it just sounded like the 7D center focusing point would make a sale. My 30D center focusing point is potent as well, as was the 20D.

But the new features, including focusing improvements and the total 7D package are on my short list. I am still a little unsure how this machine really performs and how it provides enlargement capability as compared to the 5d2 and Sony 24 bit turbo-diesels.

20D and 400mm F5.6L
http://joemachado.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p228409522-5.jpg

30D and 400mm F5.6L
http://joemachado.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p630506023-5.jpg

30D and 400mm F5.6L
http://joemachado.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p780103258-5.jpg

30D and 70-200 F4L
http://joemachado.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p902070646-5.jpg



Oct 06, 2009 at 06:10 PM
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p.1 #12 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


WOW! It can do BIF and DIF simultaneously. I'm very impressed......



Happy shooting,
Yakim.






Oct 06, 2009 at 06:10 PM
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p.1 #13 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Awesome


Oct 06, 2009 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #14 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Cool shots but I feel hungry now, maybe I'll drop by the local Chinese shop later and pick up a roast duck with plum sauce.


Oct 06, 2009 at 06:35 PM
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p.1 #15 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


I was gonna comment on a particular one I liked...if you're gonna put up 400 pics, at least # them!


Oct 06, 2009 at 06:41 PM
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p.1 #16 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Jamach, now I'm really lost. What is the point of the "photos" you posted? I hope it wasn't to show how potent the 30D's AF is!


Oct 06, 2009 at 06:53 PM
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p.1 #17 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


And there is always somebody trying to spoil the party...*sigh*...the same damn person...


Oct 06, 2009 at 06:55 PM
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p.1 #18 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Mark, I am now confused myself. The thought of Peking Duck or Duck with Sweet and Sour sauce got me sidetracked. I was just presenting pretty pictures taken with the center point and got taken away sharing my goodtimes while waiting for a super duper affordable picture making machine like the 7D.

Thanks

Joe



Oct 06, 2009 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #19 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Might have fit better in the 7D master thread at the top of the board, no?


Oct 06, 2009 at 07:00 PM
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p.1 #20 · 7D does Ducks in flight..


Tom_W wrote:
That last one's not a duck!

Nice job, ruhikant. Very nice. Both you and the 7D are very capable.

Side note - it looks like your trees are changing colors. What area do you live in?

Yep, fall is in full swing in Midwest.



Oct 06, 2009 at 10:33 PM
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