p.8 #3 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
I should have some updates before or right on the 20th of Nov.
If you have emailed me your links (confirmation link so that others can check that their link is good), disregard this. However, if did not send me your confirmation links (links to your site so that the other members can check them) then send it to me ASAP.
p.8 #9 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
Sorry that I will be late once again.
I have been playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare2 and it's very addicting.
I will get things updated before Monday.
I looks like I need to rearrange group2 since there are way too many participants in that group and there are not enough people signing up. Most likely the photogs not in America (N. S. Central) will be moved. I'll let you guys know. I just want it to be fair for everyone.
There are many who said they will participate but only half that actually are responding (roughly 40-50 participants).
p.8 #10 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
Mike,
please make sure that one of your priorities to get done is to provide al of us with the info re: the links that are supposed to be pointing to our site.
p.8 #15 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
Mike,
I hate to say this... but either some of the participants really don't know what they're doing, or they think they're foxes or something. I have to confess that I'm not a little disappointed with my findings after looking at the pages that others provided as their links.
Let me preface this by stating what LINK HOSTS should be doing, and then I'll point out all the problems I found with the ones that IN THEORY are pointing to my site.
The links should be on a page that is EASILY accessible by Google. Easily accessible does NOT mean a FLASH file, or Javascript, or code that dynamically generates when the user clicks something, nor does it mean some immaginary POST that is located who knows where in the tail end of your blog. It should be plain HTML and it should be NO MORE THAN ONE CLICK OFF your main page. Case in point, if you look at the source for my main blog page at www.manymanymoments.com/blog you will find a real HTML link to http://www.manymanymoments.com/blog/info/vendors/ which contains real HTML links to the photographers whom I'm supposed to be helping out.
It should be easy for someone who goes to the front page of the blog to FIND these links with a click.
Anyway... looking at the list you sent me for group 3, here is my finding:
BRAWNS PHOTOGRAPHY
provided this link: http://brawns.ca/blog/links
it does NOT appear to be linked to anywhere from the main http://brawns.ca/blog page. I have no idea how Google would ever find this. EPIC FAIL
BENIPAYO (this is quite disturbing actually because I believe this to be YOU)
provided this link: http://www.benipayophotography.com/main
it's a FLASH PAGE. As far as I know Google is never going to find the links
I should point out that you have blog page here: http://www.benipayo.com/blog/
you could have done something exactly like I did and the links would count. EPIC FAIL
NORMANNG - as you mentioned - no links EPIC FAIL
FRANCIS JOSEPH - first one to do it correctly. From front page of blog there is a direct link to the page with the links and the links are all REAL LINKS. Thank you FRANCIS. WIN
WILLIAM KIM PHOTOGRAPHY - made the links page a BLOG POST, reachable with two clicks from the blog home. Is it completely worthless? Maybe not completely but it's hard to conceive of a worse way of creating a link that is still somewhat defensible. FAIL
BLACKCATWHITECAT - did it correctly. From front blog page there is a DIRECT LINK to a page with the links, and the links are REAL LINKS. Only problem... MY SITE and a few others are missing. FAIL
JASONDAVIDPAGE - honestly I don't know wether google would follow the link from his main page to the links page... since it's using php... but probably YES... so on the "getting from front page to links page" he'd get at least a passing score... except... the freggin' links are NOT REAL LINKS... they're PHP script redirections... totally worthless as far as google is concerned. Thanks but no thanks. EPIC FAIL
CONRAD LIM PHOTOGRAPHY - Did it correctly. real link from blog home to link page, real links on link page. Thank you Conrad. WIN
SCOTT MOSHER - either you messed up including him in this list or he totally messed up the links on his page since they look like my links which suggests he should be in my group... either way.. if he's supposed to link to me he's not. One of you gets the EPIC FAIL
JOSH SNYDER - done correctly. Thank you! WIN
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I dunno but 3 wins is a little pathetic, considering that I have 19 perfect outgoing links on my page.
p.8 #16 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
Do you have updates on the latest links list? The links have been added to my website and I'd like to verify mine is listed on reciprocating websites now. Thanks.
p.8 #18 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
lisy78 wrote:
Mike,
I hate to say this... but either some of the participants really don't know what they're doing, or they think they're foxes or something. I have to confess that I'm not a little disappointed with my findings after looking at the pages that others provided as their links.
Let me preface this by stating what LINK HOSTS should be doing, and then I'll point out all the problems I found with the ones that IN THEORY are pointing to my site.
The links should be on a page that is EASILY accessible by Google. Easily accessible does NOT mean a FLASH file, or Javascript, or code that dynamically generates when the user clicks something, nor does it mean some immaginary POST that is located who knows where in the tail end of your blog. It should be plain HTML and it should be NO MORE THAN ONE CLICK OFF your main page. Case in point, if you look at the source for my main blog page at www.manymanymoments.com/blog you will find a real HTML link to http://www.manymanymoments.com/blog/info/vendors/ which contains real HTML links to the photographers whom I'm supposed to be helping out.
It should be easy for someone who goes to the front page of the blog to FIND these links with a click.
Anyway... looking at the list you sent me for group 3, here is my finding:
BRAWNS PHOTOGRAPHY
provided this link: http://brawns.ca/blog/links
it does NOT appear to be linked to anywhere from the main http://brawns.ca/blog page. I have no idea how Google would ever find this. EPIC FAIL
BENIPAYO (this is quite disturbing actually because I believe this to be YOU)
provided this link: http://www.benipayophotography.com/main
it's a FLASH PAGE. As far as I know Google is never going to find the links
I should point out that you have blog page here: http://www.benipayo.com/blog/
you could have done something exactly like I did and the links would count. EPIC FAIL
NORMANNG - as you mentioned - no links EPIC FAIL
FRANCIS JOSEPH - first one to do it correctly. From front page of blog there is a direct link to the page with the links and the links are all REAL LINKS. Thank you FRANCIS. WIN
WILLIAM KIM PHOTOGRAPHY - made the links page a BLOG POST, reachable with two clicks from the blog home. Is it completely worthless? Maybe not completely but it's hard to conceive of a worse way of creating a link that is still somewhat defensible. FAIL
BLACKCATWHITECAT - did it correctly. From front blog page there is a DIRECT LINK to a page with the links, and the links are REAL LINKS. Only problem... MY SITE and a few others are missing. FAIL
JASONDAVIDPAGE - honestly I don't know wether google would follow the link from his main page to the links page... since it's using php... but probably YES... so on the "getting from front page to links page" he'd get at least a passing score... except... the freggin' links are NOT REAL LINKS... they're PHP script redirections... totally worthless as far as google is concerned. Thanks but no thanks. EPIC FAIL
CONRAD LIM PHOTOGRAPHY - Did it correctly. real link from blog home to link page, real links on link page. Thank you Conrad. WIN
SCOTT MOSHER - either you messed up including him in this list or he totally messed up the links on his page since they look like my links which suggests he should be in my group... either way.. if he's supposed to link to me he's not. One of you gets the EPIC FAIL
JOSH SNYDER - done correctly. Thank you! WIN
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I dunno but 3 wins is a little pathetic, considering that I have 19 perfect outgoing links on my page.
I agree with you. I found my link in people's flash sites, in an extremely hidden area not accessible from main page. I kinda wanna drop out from this... sorry to have missed your link. I haven't updated since the first round.
p.8 #19 · JOIN in a 3 WAY LINKing for better search engine optimization?
^^^^ (lisy78)
I have a flash site, so by default, it's not as great as pure html. But I did put a link from my main page to the photographers in my group. Are you suggesting that because a site is flash, it should be disallowed, or is there a technique that can be used to improve search engine bots?
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