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p.94 #1 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


brainiac wrote:
Any news on this? It will be much appreciated.


The two are not the same. What you view has more depth of field that what you get, by a noticeable degree.



Sep 30, 2009 at 07:58 PM
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p.94 #2 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


shelby_daniel wrote:
Man, that 'Hide Me' button works wonders!

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+1
Canonical popped my hide-me cherry. Ahh... I'm already not missing her!



Sep 30, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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p.94 #3 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


jamato8 wrote:
The two are not the same. What you view has more depth of field that what you get, by a noticeable degree.

Check out this thread for a related concept?

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/818246/1

Is this a workflow question, a measurement question, or both?


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Sep 30, 2009 at 08:24 PM
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p.94 #4 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


I got mine this morning and went around shooting and after I handed it off to a friend he tried to take a pic and got an Error 80 =/ blah not even a day into owning it...

I don't know specifics on what he did but I pulled the battery and it reset fine but is anyone else having any problems so far?



Sep 30, 2009 at 08:29 PM
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p.94 #5 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


canonical wrote:
All that means is he doesn't know when I talk about him....


As Wayne Campbell might say... "Exactly."



Sep 30, 2009 at 09:12 PM
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canonical wrote:
All that means is he doesn't know when I talk about him....


No what that means is your an obnoxious West Texas Nikon Troll and he doesn't want to hear what you have to say anymore.

Jim



Sep 30, 2009 at 09:21 PM
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p.94 #7 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


^^^^ too funny Jim


Sep 30, 2009 at 09:25 PM
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p.94 #8 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


canonical wrote:
All that means is he doesn't know when I talk about him....


He can "unhide" you any time he wants. Just not sure that he wants,,,



Sep 30, 2009 at 09:26 PM
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p.94 #9 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


I don't need a hide me button, I take what i want from the mix and leave the rest to compost. Ignorant posts are fairly easy to ignore.


Sep 30, 2009 at 09:49 PM
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jamato8 wrote:
The two are not the same. What you view has more depth of field that what you get, by a noticeable degree.


Disappointing, but not surprising.



Sep 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM
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p.94 #11 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


canonical wrote:
Actually paulfeng is a lot closer than you are with his guess.

My biggest question would be.....why...a guy like you....with a name like that?? Something don't compute in that equation !


For you who adds nothing, actually negative to the discussion to even hint at brainiac (Richard) in a negative way. Go away. For me personally, you are hidden from my view.



Sep 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM
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p.94 #12 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Learned a lot from this thread.

The 7D is the first APS-C camera that has tempted me in a long time. Love the added features. If you want a APS-C this is the one to get.

Now I don't know why I would have ever been skeptical of someone with a green head who called himself brainiac and posted on the web.

But darn if after a while I didn't agree that I needed to change the way I compare images for noise.

Never used that hide me button before, found it can have its place in smoothing the flow of a thread.



Sep 30, 2009 at 10:39 PM
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p.94 #13 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Yohan Pamudji wrote:
Disappointing, but not surprising.


A possibly related concept discussed in this thread:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/818246/1



Sep 30, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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p.94 #14 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Cameron, you're killing me. Every time I turn around, you're posting that same link all over the forums!


Sep 30, 2009 at 11:04 PM
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p.94 #15 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


dwweiche wrote:
Cameron, you're killing me. Every time I turn around, you're posting that same link all over the forums!


Dwweiche -- sorry about that. I actually think it's only in two threads? I only make reference to the original thread when I see a similar post (here) raise what I believe to be a related issue/question/concern.

I'm just trying to raise the awareness of critical focusing for DOF, and piecing together how we've evolved from depth-of-field preview, to DEP, and now to Live View.

And also trying to understand the workflow that others use to achieve critical focusing for DOF.



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Sep 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM
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p.94 #16 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Maybe only in two threads, but four times in just this thread


Sep 30, 2009 at 11:08 PM
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p.94 #17 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


dwweiche wrote:
Maybe only in two threads, but four times in just this thread


Just out of curiosity, what is your workflow for achieving critical focus for DOF?



Sep 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM
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p.94 #18 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


. Thanks for the laugh. It's needed after all the hate flying back and forth in this thread.

And to answer your question, I set my camera to f32 and clone out all the sensor dust



Sep 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM
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p.94 #19 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Usually you have gradually increasing lightloss in the viewfinder from F/4 and downwards... A viewfinder will not give you shallower depth of field than roughly F/2.8 unless you make the viewfinder VERY dark by making the matte screen VERY matte.
Most of the time you cannot see any light decrease at all, or at least VERY little if you hit "DoF-preview" on the camera - stopping down a F/1.4 lens to F/2. Almost none of this light is transmitted to the viewfinder clear aperture. Stopping down to F/2.8 from F/1.4 usually gives you about half a stop of light loss in the viewfinder when it "should" be two whole stops.

And as Dof is linearly dependent on light amount, there's a "minimum" DoF in the viewfinder...

Anyone more technically inclined can see it as if the two apertures (lens aperture and viewfinder aperture) does not transmit all light to each other. The exact surface diffusion on the matte screen determines how much of the light that's passed through the entire system, from lens front to VF eyepiece. A very matte screen will have less system "loss" going from F/4 to F/1.4, but will on the other hand be very much darker with a F/4 lens. Nowadays, manufacturers usually prioritize having a "bright" F/4 image, and this means that the losses going from F/4 to F/1.4 is higher.



Sep 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM
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That's why there's the 'S' screen... oh wait!


Sep 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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