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p.45 #1Canon EOS 7D Master thread
skibum5 wrote:
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.
Just up the page (and here).
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.
Just up the page (and here).
Sep 11, 2009 at 03:14 PM
p.45 #2Canon EOS 7D Master thread
keithreeder wrote:
Just up the page (and here).
The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:
"My experience with other DSLR cameras is that the focus easily skip to the front wing when it comes near the selected focus - in this case, the eye of a goose. . To my great delight, it kept focus to where I wanted during the whole "flapping" sequence, which has not been the standard in similar situations before."
The google translation sais this performance has been standard before, but in norwegian he clealy says it has not.
It is difficult to translate the norweigain modifier "nok", but I think "eventually" or "probably" will do, and we can quote him on:
"This is eventually the camera with the best AF system that I've tried (including 1D/1DS MarkIII)"
skibum5 wrote
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:
"My experience with other DSLR cameras is that the focus easily skip to the front wing when it comes near the selected focus - in this case, the eye of a goose. . To my great delight, it kept focus to where I wanted during the whole "flapping" sequence, which has not been the standard in similar situations before."
The google translation sais this performance has been standard before, but in norwegian he clealy says it has not.
It is difficult to translate the norweigain modifier "nok", but I think "eventually" or "probably" will do, and we can quote him on:
"This is eventually the camera with the best AF system that I've tried (including 1D/1DS MarkIII)"
Sep 11, 2009 at 03:29 PM
p.45 #3Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Alundeb, thanks for the translation.
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
skibum5 wrote:
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY current 50d...
So I'm afraid I'm a little skeptical on this one...
Hope it's true though, since I will most likely buy one!
But I will have to wait and see...
And don't get me started on canon's initial claims of the 50d high iso performance...
Though I must admit that so far I am really impressed with the initial 7d pics.
The initial 50d high iso pics were not very good, and these are.
So fingers crossed!
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
skibum5 wrote:
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY current 50d...
So I'm afraid I'm a little skeptical on this one...
Hope it's true though, since I will most likely buy one!
But I will have to wait and see...
And don't get me started on canon's initial claims of the 50d high iso performance...
Though I must admit that so far I am really impressed with the initial 7d pics.
The initial 50d high iso pics were not very good, and these are.
So fingers crossed!
Sep 11, 2009 at 04:31 PM
p.45 #4Canon EOS 7D Master thread
fraga wrote:
Alundeb, thanks for the translation.
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), which was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with my current...Show more →
Arthur Morris still feels his 50D in some situations tracks as good as or better than his Mark 3 (and he is a guy who really likes his 1D3 too). There is another guy on BPN that agrees with him. Not agreeing with them or anything but just adding a couple more data points.
Alundeb, thanks for the translation.
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
skibum5 wrote
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), which was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with my current...Show more →
Arthur Morris still feels his 50D in some situations tracks as good as or better than his Mark 3 (and he is a guy who really likes his 1D3 too). There is another guy on BPN that agrees with him. Not agreeing with them or anything but just adding a couple more data points.
Sep 11, 2009 at 04:33 PM
p.45 #5Canon EOS 7D Master thread
fraga wrote:
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY current 50d...
That was Brutus Östling, Fraga - he's good.
The 50D does have very fast AF (40D too) but there's a lack of control and configurability in those bodies - even "little" things in the Mk III like the ability to slow down the AF before it starts seeking again (so that it doesn't instantly get distracted by a busy background) will make a big difference, and of course the 7D has that ability too - and a dedicated AF processor, which the xxD bodies lack.
Oh yeah - thanks, Alundeb.
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY current 50d...
That was Brutus Östling, Fraga - he's good.
The 50D does have very fast AF (40D too) but there's a lack of control and configurability in those bodies - even "little" things in the Mk III like the ability to slow down the AF before it starts seeking again (so that it doesn't instantly get distracted by a busy background) will make a big difference, and of course the 7D has that ability too - and a dedicated AF processor, which the xxD bodies lack.
Oh yeah - thanks, Alundeb.
Sep 11, 2009 at 05:24 PM
p.45 #6Canon EOS 7D Master thread
alundeb wrote:
"This is eventually the camera with the best AF system that I've tried (including 1D/1DS MarkIII)"
Actually, "probably" makes perfect sense in that sentence.
"This is eventually the camera with the best AF system that I've tried (including 1D/1DS MarkIII)"
Actually, "probably" makes perfect sense in that sentence.
Sep 11, 2009 at 05:28 PM
p.45 #7Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Wow! I see 600mm at F2.8 from him at those water shots....
Typo I guess.
Typo I guess.Sep 11, 2009 at 06:26 PM
p.45 #8Canon EOS 7D Master thread
alundeb wrote:
Just up the page (and here).The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:
"My experience with other DSLR cameras is that the focus easily skip to the front wing when it comes near the selected focus - in this case, the eye of a goose. . To my great delight, it kept focus to where I wanted during the whole "flapping" sequence, which has not been the standard in similar situations before."
The google translation sais this performance has been standard before, but in norwegian he clealy says it has not.
It is difficult to translate the norweigain modifier "nok", but I think "eventually" or "probably" will...Show more →
well it sort of came across anyway with the first part of the sentence, so I read it properly to begin with, but it doesn't hurt to have it clarified just in case it had been the first part it had mis-translated and not the last part.
As for the "eventually" or "probably" PLEASE let it NOT be "eventually"! Haha we don't need another year long saga, ala Mk3, of mirror fixes and all!
I'm sure it should be translated as "probably".... i hope.
anyway, this guy, at least, certainly seems to know what he is doing unlike many of the others shooting pre-pro samples. nice samples.
Edited on Sep 12, 2009 at 02:37 AM · View previous versions
keithreeder wrote
skibum5 wrote
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3."My experience with other DSLR cameras is that the focus easily skip to the front wing when it comes near the selected focus - in this case, the eye of a goose. . To my great delight, it kept focus to where I wanted during the whole "flapping" sequence, which has not been the standard in similar situations before."
The google translation sais this performance has been standard before, but in norwegian he clealy says it has not.
It is difficult to translate the norweigain modifier "nok", but I think "eventually" or "probably" will...Show more →
well it sort of came across anyway with the first part of the sentence, so I read it properly to begin with, but it doesn't hurt to have it clarified just in case it had been the first part it had mis-translated and not the last part.
As for the "eventually" or "probably" PLEASE let it NOT be "eventually"! Haha we don't need another year long saga, ala Mk3, of mirror fixes and all!
I'm sure it should be translated as "probably".... i hope
.anyway, this guy, at least, certainly seems to know what he is doing unlike many of the others shooting pre-pro samples. nice samples.
Edited on Sep 12, 2009 at 02:37 AM · View previous versions
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:27 PM
p.45 #9Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
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Edited on Sep 11, 2009 at 06:28 PM · View previous versions
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:27 PM
p.45 #10Canon EOS 7D Master thread
fraga wrote:
Alundeb, thanks for the translation.
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
When the 50d was announced, canon also gave a pre-production model to a well-known bird-photog who claimed that in his tests he found the 50d's AF to be faster for birding than his 1DIII.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY...Show more →
Yeah, I well remember that. It proved to be a lot of crap.
I have better feel from how this guy is talking though, of course it remains to be seen.
Alundeb, thanks for the translation.
I believe that I speak in the name of us all when I say it is very appreciated!
skibum5 wrote
I saw a link to a Norwegian photographer (birds/sports/people) who said that after a short test for a day it appeared to focus better than the 1D3.I had the pleasure of owning a 1DMIII. One of the firsts my dealer received (he is one of the biggest dealers in Europe), and it was never serviced.
Let me tell you that in terms of AF, MY previous 1DMIII wipes the floor with MY...Show more →
Yeah, I well remember that. It proved to be a lot of crap.
I have better feel from how this guy is talking though, of course it remains to be seen.
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:28 PM
p.45 #11Canon EOS 7D Master thread
alundeb wrote:
The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:
Why use the awful translator when you can have it written properly in English
here?
The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:
Why use the awful translator when you can have it written properly in English
here?
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:30 PM
p.45 #12Canon EOS 7D Master thread
It wasn't available that time. You're late!
thw2 wrote:
Why use the awful translator when you can have it written properly in English
here?
thw2 wrote:
alundeb wrote
The translation gets one sequence wrong, it should be:here?
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:33 PM
p.45 #13Canon EOS 7D Master thread
In the dark maybe it glows ?
kresearch wrote:
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
kresearch wrote:
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
Sep 11, 2009 at 06:33 PM
p.45 #14Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Well, I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered. Now, the likely 4-6 week wait. 
Sep 11, 2009 at 07:22 PM
p.45 #15Canon EOS 7D Master thread
cameron12x wrote:
Well, I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered. Now, the likely 4-6 week wait.
If like 5d2, try months....
Well, I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered. Now, the likely 4-6 week wait.
If like 5d2, try months....
Sep 11, 2009 at 08:00 PM
p.45 #16Canon EOS 7D Master thread
kresearch wrote:
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
It means it's not a pro camera! The 1D MkIV Will feature a Red ring!
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
It means it's not a pro camera! The 1D MkIV Will feature a Red ring!
Sep 11, 2009 at 08:07 PM
p.45 #18Canon EOS 7D Master thread
timbop wrote:
Not to be picky, but who cares if he had NR ON or OFF? The results speak for themselves - there appears to be plenty of detail with low noise, and no banding. I am pretty sure I can live with that. If it was accomplished in-camera (or during raw import) without having to go through noiseninja or neatimage I am actually happier, as it saves me a step in post.
It's all about the final image, isn't it?
It is about the final image... but also how you have come to that final image
We all know the 50D files looked better in DPP than in ACR/LR. Since I use ACR/LR, I am more concerned how the 7D RAW files will hold up in this software than in DPP.
Not to be picky, but who cares if he had NR ON or OFF? The results speak for themselves - there appears to be plenty of detail with low noise, and no banding. I am pretty sure I can live with that. If it was accomplished in-camera (or during raw import) without having to go through noiseninja or neatimage I am actually happier, as it saves me a step in post.
It's all about the final image, isn't it?
It is about the final image... but also how you have come to that final image
We all know the 50D files looked better in DPP than in ACR/LR. Since I use ACR/LR, I am more concerned how the 7D RAW files will hold up in this software than in DPP.
Sep 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM
p.45 #19Canon EOS 7D Master thread
kresearch wrote:
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
It adds a "touch of class and luxury"
I wonder what's up with this [new] silver ring around the rear wheel... I don't see any reason/usage for it. Any ideas?
It adds a "touch of class and luxury"
Sep 12, 2009 at 02:32 AM
p.45 #20Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I am actually wondering if this camera would be performing as good as my 5D up to ISO 800. If what some people are saying about it is true and it can keep up with just 1/2 stop disadvantage against 5D "classic" I think I'm going to sell my 5D very soon.
IF AF is so good and ISO performance too, I think I'm going to enjoy coming back to crop sensor and wait for new stuff to come.
Things I'm missing in my 5D while I wish to have the same form factor:
1-Great AF with the outer points and more frame coverage.
2-Good Screen
3-Live view
4-AF micro adjust
5-Level
6-Some extra reach for macro work
7-100% viewfinder
8-ISO reading in the viewfinder
9-Custom modes
10-greater FPS. I would have enough with 5 FPS.
11-Resolution for cropping/framing even more. (Sometimes I suck at framing )
12-Less Shutter lag delay
13-OK...video will come handy too
Now, if the 7D was APS-H or Full Frame... what a dream camera... (3D?)
IF AF is so good and ISO performance too, I think I'm going to enjoy coming back to crop sensor and wait for new stuff to come.
Things I'm missing in my 5D while I wish to have the same form factor:
1-Great AF with the outer points and more frame coverage.
2-Good Screen
3-Live view
4-AF micro adjust
5-Level
6-Some extra reach for macro work
7-100% viewfinder
8-ISO reading in the viewfinder
9-Custom modes
10-greater FPS. I would have enough with 5 FPS.
11-Resolution for cropping/framing even more. (Sometimes I suck at framing
)12-Less Shutter lag delay
13-OK...video will come handy too
Now, if the 7D was APS-H or Full Frame... what a dream camera... (3D?)
Sep 12, 2009 at 03:22 AM