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p.34 #1Canon EOS 7D Master thread
EOS20 wrote:
He's probably out having EOSfun! 
I think he's here under his sober username.
Tom_W wrote
Not wanting to break the mood, but just where the heck has EOSfun been throughout this new camera season? I think he's here under his sober username.
Sep 07, 2009 at 11:02 AM
p.34 #2Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Tom_W wrote:
Not wanting to break the mood, but just where the heck has EOSfun been throughout this new camera season?
He might hear you and decide to come back...
Not wanting to break the mood, but just where the heck has EOSfun been throughout this new camera season?
He might hear you and decide to come back... Sep 07, 2009 at 11:02 AM
p.34 #3Canon EOS 7D Master thread
brainiac wrote:
Yes and don't forget this quote from the early SteveJobs mk2 when he was asked about axing the Newton platform: "Apple makes computers. Computers have keyboards." The consumer has a very short memory.
I still have my Newton, and my $8000 Mac II.
Yes and don't forget this quote from the early SteveJobs mk2 when he was asked about axing the Newton platform: "Apple makes computers. Computers have keyboards." The consumer has a very short memory.
I still have my Newton, and my $8000 Mac II.
Sep 07, 2009 at 11:04 AM
p.34 #4Canon EOS 7D Master thread
dcmiller wrote:
He's probably out having EOSfun! I think he's here under his sober username.
Wasn't it the other guy who used to get drunk & post ..? (ralph something?)
EOS20 wrote
Tom_W wrote
Not wanting to break the mood, but just where the heck has EOSfun been throughout this new camera season?Wasn't it the other guy who used to get drunk & post ..? (ralph something?)
Sep 07, 2009 at 11:10 AM
p.34 #7Canon EOS 7D Master thread
keithreeder wrote:
On that shot, the AF point was right on the top right edge of the bubble itself - at the point where the bubble and the stick in the guy's left hand intersect, so I bet it got the trees behind instead.
I suspect Ohyeah means this shot, incidentally - the AF point for this one is on the bubble, about where the tip of the fountain(?) behind the bubble is.
Yeah, that's the picture I was referring to (thanks Keith!!). Sorry for not posting the link. My main point was the large DoF at f/2.8 (obviously it's not a 7D thing), and how the new AF system coupled with a large DoF could make for an affordable 1Dx alternative. The 1Dx will still be the defacto standard Canon sports body for pro photogs, but the 7D could prove to be a very capable little brother. Also, since the lower end cameras is where manufactures make the majority of their profits, the 7D platform could prove to be a testing grounds of sorts for 1Dx features, as well as providing Canon with more capital for R&D.
On that shot, the AF point was right on the top right edge of the bubble itself - at the point where the bubble and the stick in the guy's left hand intersect, so I bet it got the trees behind instead.
I suspect Ohyeah means this shot, incidentally - the AF point for this one is on the bubble, about where the tip of the fountain(?) behind the bubble is.
Yeah, that's the picture I was referring to (thanks Keith!!). Sorry for not posting the link. My main point was the large DoF at f/2.8 (obviously it's not a 7D thing), and how the new AF system coupled with a large DoF could make for an affordable 1Dx alternative. The 1Dx will still be the defacto standard Canon sports body for pro photogs, but the 7D could prove to be a very capable little brother. Also, since the lower end cameras is where manufactures make the majority of their profits, the 7D platform could prove to be a testing grounds of sorts for 1Dx features, as well as providing Canon with more capital for R&D.
Sep 07, 2009 at 12:18 PM
p.34 #8Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Mr.Lindy wrote:
+1
Or better yet toss me a firmware bone that has microadjust for my two 5D Classics.
I asked the canon rep the other day about this & he replied that's not happening. "No more firmware upgrade(s) for 5D"
And auto sensor cleaning
droopy1592 wrote
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.Or better yet toss me a firmware bone that has microadjust for my two 5D Classics.
I asked the canon rep the other day about this & he replied that's not happening. "No more firmware upgrade(s) for 5D"
And auto sensor cleaning
Sep 07, 2009 at 12:25 PM
p.34 #9Canon EOS 7D Master thread
droopy1592 wrote:
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.
Then we would have 27 pages of posts complaining that the AF wasn't upgraded.
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.
Then we would have 27 pages of posts complaining that the AF wasn't upgraded.
Sep 07, 2009 at 12:25 PM
p.34 #11Canon EOS 7D Master thread
And the reason for my interest in the 7D as a sports camera is that I (regretfully) sold my 1D2N so I could afford a 1D3. But after shelling out all that extra money, it was a let down for me personally, so I returned the 1D3 for a refund. And ever since then I've really missed a "sports" body, and have been waiting for the 1D4 to be released. But since I'm not a pro and only make pocket change when I do make money selling pix, the 7D is looking very good in my case (at least in theory/based on specs). If money were no issue, I would definitely hold off for the 1D4 which should be out early next year. I'm sure it will not only incorporate relevant 7D features as well as others, and at a much higher level, so there will remain a clear distinction between the two cameras. (I'm guessing dual Digic "V"s, and other surprises Canon always manages to catch us off guard with).
Sep 07, 2009 at 12:34 PM
p.34 #12Canon EOS 7D Master thread
dcmiller wrote:
They certainly don't decide on a cameras specs three years in advance. They finalize a camera less then a year before it's released. No electronics firm could stay in business with the production cycle suggested.
The D300 greatly influenced what Canon released in the 7D. They would never put the quality AF in the 7D unless forced to by Nikon. They wouldn't do 8fps either.
true, even canon talked about they could quickly catch up in a year if, not taht it woudl ever happen (haha), nikon were to miraculously catch up and release good sensors or go FF, etc.
They certainly don't decide on a cameras specs three years in advance. They finalize a camera less then a year before it's released. No electronics firm could stay in business with the production cycle suggested.
The D300 greatly influenced what Canon released in the 7D. They would never put the quality AF in the 7D unless forced to by Nikon. They wouldn't do 8fps either.
true, even canon talked about they could quickly catch up in a year if, not taht it woudl ever happen (haha), nikon were to miraculously catch up and release good sensors or go FF, etc.
Sep 07, 2009 at 12:54 PM
p.34 #13Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Rob Whiting wrote:
Then we would have 27 pages of posts complaining that the AF wasn't upgraded.
funny but so, so very true
droopy1592 wrote
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust. funny but so, so very trueSep 07, 2009 at 01:20 PM
p.34 #14Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Rob Whiting wrote:
Then we would have 27 pages of posts complaining that the AF wasn't upgraded.
We've already gotten that with the 5D2.
Then we would have 27 pages of posts complaining that the AF wasn't upgraded.
We've already gotten that with the 5D2.
Sep 07, 2009 at 02:07 PM
p.34 #15Canon EOS 7D Master thread
droopy1592 wrote:
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.
Because the 5D2's sRAW doesn't do it for you
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.
Because the 5D2's sRAW doesn't do it for you
Sep 07, 2009 at 02:43 PM
p.34 #16Canon EOS 7D Master thread
keithreeder wrote:
Just hope Customs don't catch you and that there are no warranty issues...
I must admit, it's the latter which makes purchase from abroad less appealing to me.
Hi there
even in the dying days of "Gordon Clown's" administration there's no import duty in the UK payable on STILL digital cameras -- surprisingly this loophole has been forgotten ever since DSLR's first appeared.
If you buy from the US you are OK.
BTW this doesn't include Lenses / other accessories but just the body.
Now whether the 7D fulfills "Uk Gov't regs" as to what is a STILL DSLR is a moot point --but my experience with gov't agencies all round the planet is that their definitions are rarely updated and even when they are it takes YEARS to implement the change before the guys at the airport / ferry terminals have the correct rules.
(Note -- you could be charged VAT but that's unlikely -- and even if you were it probably still would be far cheaper to import from the US -- you'd get the US tax back in any case).
Cheers
-K
Just hope Customs don't catch you and that there are no warranty issues...
I must admit, it's the latter which makes purchase from abroad less appealing to me.
Hi there
even in the dying days of "Gordon Clown's" administration there's no import duty in the UK payable on STILL digital cameras -- surprisingly this loophole has been forgotten ever since DSLR's first appeared.
If you buy from the US you are OK.
BTW this doesn't include Lenses / other accessories but just the body.
Now whether the 7D fulfills "Uk Gov't regs" as to what is a STILL DSLR is a moot point --but my experience with gov't agencies all round the planet is that their definitions are rarely updated and even when they are it takes YEARS to implement the change before the guys at the airport / ferry terminals have the correct rules.
(Note -- you could be charged VAT but that's unlikely -- and even if you were it probably still would be far cheaper to import from the US -- you'd get the US tax back in any case).
Cheers
-K
Sep 07, 2009 at 03:07 PM
p.34 #17Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Kyle Yates wrote:
I must admit, it's the latter which makes purchase from abroad less appealing to me.Hi there
even in the dying days of "Gordon Clown's" administration there's no import duty in the UK payable on STILL digital cameras -- surprisingly this loophole has been forgotten ever since DSLR's first appeared.
If you buy from the US you are OK.
BTW this doesn't include Lenses / other accessories but just the body.
Now whether the 7D fulfills "Uk Gov't regs" as to what is a STILL DSLR is a moot point --but my experience with gov't agencies all round the planet is that their definitions are rarely updated and even when they are it takes YEARS to implement the...Show more →
Just to add to that, I remember reading in one edition of Eos magazine (came with CPS membership I think) that the reason that the maximum recording length for the 5DMKII's video clips in low res mode was 29.59 mins was that it would classify as a video camera if it was longer. They thus avoided having import duty charged on the MKII as they kept it below the 30 min mark.
How true that is I have no idea but I do remember reading something to that effect. Personally I thought it was to do with file size limitations.
The article also mentioned proposed EU rules about import duty on video cameras too but my memory fails me.
keithreeder wrote
Just hope Customs don't catch you and that there are no warranty issues...I must admit, it's the latter which makes purchase from abroad less appealing to me.
even in the dying days of "Gordon Clown's" administration there's no import duty in the UK payable on STILL digital cameras -- surprisingly this loophole has been forgotten ever since DSLR's first appeared.
If you buy from the US you are OK.
BTW this doesn't include Lenses / other accessories but just the body.
Now whether the 7D fulfills "Uk Gov't regs" as to what is a STILL DSLR is a moot point --but my experience with gov't agencies all round the planet is that their definitions are rarely updated and even when they are it takes YEARS to implement the...Show more →
Just to add to that, I remember reading in one edition of Eos magazine (came with CPS membership I think) that the reason that the maximum recording length for the 5DMKII's video clips in low res mode was 29.59 mins was that it would classify as a video camera if it was longer. They thus avoided having import duty charged on the MKII as they kept it below the 30 min mark.
How true that is I have no idea but I do remember reading something to that effect. Personally I thought it was to do with file size limitations.
The article also mentioned proposed EU rules about import duty on video cameras too but my memory fails me.
Sep 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM
p.34 #18Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Daan B wrote:
Because the 5D2's sRAW doesn't do it for you
Maybe the 12 mp would keep it cheap with the minor upgrades. The sensor is what makes rhe mkii expensive. Take it out and put the old one in and it sounds like the perfect cheap FF.
droopy1592 wrote
Hell, I'd just be happy if Canon re-released the old 5D with just live-view, better bigger LCD, and lens microadjust.Maybe the 12 mp would keep it cheap with the minor upgrades. The sensor is what makes rhe mkii expensive. Take it out and put the old one in and it sounds like the perfect cheap FF.
Sep 07, 2009 at 04:52 PM
p.34 #19Canon EOS 7D Master thread
kewlcanon wrote:
I think 7D with 5D sensor
Just think what the 5D sensor would produce if it had all the gapless microlenses and wells and bissels they've done to the 7D sensor.
I think 7D with 5D sensor
Just think what the 5D sensor would produce if it had all the gapless microlenses and wells and bissels they've done to the 7D sensor.
Sep 07, 2009 at 10:41 PM
p.34 #20Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Jeff Nolten wrote:
Just think what the 5D sensor would produce if it had all the gapless microlenses and wells and bissels they've done to the 7D sensor.
I've heard of bells and whistles, but since English is not my native language, I can't get what "wells and bissels" mean.
"Wells" perhaps has something to do with the pixel's full well capacity? Mr. Google doesn't help much as far as "bissels" is concerned.
Just think what the 5D sensor would produce if it had all the gapless microlenses and wells and bissels they've done to the 7D sensor.
I've heard of bells and whistles, but since English is not my native language, I can't get what "wells and bissels" mean.
"Wells" perhaps has something to do with the pixel's full well capacity? Mr. Google doesn't help much as far as "bissels" is concerned.
Sep 07, 2009 at 11:19 PM