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p.4 #1the d300s killer
Pavel wrote:
No ... carry that D200 in plain site - loud and proud. Perhaps someone will take pity on you and give you a 14-24 to make life more fair.
Actually I already have that lens and it does serve to hide the camera ... though it does tend to make me lean forwards at 45 degrees.
To be serious for a moment, sort of, I wonder if the 18 mega pixies will offer a real benefit, or if it is there for marketing reasons? It does make me wonder if had they stuck to 12 MP, could they have gained a significant dynamic range and high ISO gain over Nikon? How many lenses can make use of so many pixies?
No ... carry that D200 in plain site - loud and proud. Perhaps someone will take pity on you and give you a 14-24 to make life more fair.
Actually I already have that lens and it does serve to hide the camera ... though it does tend to make me lean forwards at 45 degrees.
To be serious for a moment, sort of, I wonder if the 18 mega pixies will offer a real benefit, or if it is there for marketing reasons? It does make me wonder if had they stuck to 12 MP, could they have gained a significant dynamic range and high ISO gain over Nikon? How many lenses can make use of so many pixies?
Sep 01, 2009 at 03:56 PM
p.4 #2the d300s killer
I see that this 7D has a "commander mode" - Galbraith says it's Canon's first camera with a wireless TTL flash controller. Three groups of speedlights, four channels.
I wonder if the next round of religious wars will be centered around Nikon's CLS versus Canon's whatever-they-call-theirs?
Mike
I wonder if the next round of religious wars will be centered around Nikon's CLS versus Canon's whatever-they-call-theirs?
Mike
Sep 01, 2009 at 04:28 PM
p.4 #3the d300s killer
MikeLandry wrote:
I wonder if the next round of religious wars will be centered around Nikon's CLS versus Canon's whatever-they-call-theirs?
Mike
That particular war is already over, Canon only offers a lovely ratio TTL control while CLS offers full manual and TTL.
I wonder if the next round of religious wars will be centered around Nikon's CLS versus Canon's whatever-they-call-theirs?
Mike
That particular war is already over, Canon only offers a lovely ratio TTL control while CLS offers full manual and TTL.
Sep 01, 2009 at 05:04 PM
p.4 #4the d300s killer
This is certainly a 'revolutionary' cam for Canon, hence all the excitement. If Nikon had released the same thing it would have been seen as a nice upgrade but hardly revolutionary. I think the Canon folk are just venting their 2 years of frustration inflicted by the D300 and D700 (the frustration continues 
) when they gush like school girls in describing the 7D as a D300/s killer.
As a keen sports shooter I'm not sure I need 18MP though (12-14MP would be fine).
Cheers
Leigh
) when they gush like school girls in describing the 7D as a D300/s killer.As a keen sports shooter I'm not sure I need 18MP though (12-14MP would be fine).
Cheers
Leigh
Sep 01, 2009 at 05:08 PM
p.4 #5the d300s killer
LeifG wrote:
Does this mean I now have to cary my D200 in a brown paper bag?
Leif, that was you with the D200 around you neck the other day. Sorry I threw that tomato at you man.
Does this mean I now have to cary my D200 in a brown paper bag?
Leif, that was you with the D200 around you neck the other day. Sorry I threw that tomato at you man.
Sep 01, 2009 at 05:49 PM
p.4 #6the d300s killer
Jammy Straub wrote:
MikeThat particular war is already over, Canon only offers a lovely ratio TTL control while CLS offers full manual and TTL.
I LOVE CLS!!
MikeLandry wrote
I wonder if the next round of religious wars will be centered around Nikon's CLS versus Canon's whatever-they-call-theirs?Mike
I LOVE CLS!!
Sep 01, 2009 at 05:52 PM
p.4 #7the d300s killer
If you smashed the two together which one would survive??
That's the only way to find out which one is the killer. Other than that choose your camera by what options and strengths make you the most happy.
All of the current high end Dslr's are great cameras in their own light and do different things better than the others, it's just which things you like the most.
Me I like dependability, and not having to run for fear when a little drizzle, snow is out in a cheap(comparatively speaking) model.
That's the only way to find out which one is the killer. Other than that choose your camera by what options and strengths make you the most happy.
All of the current high end Dslr's are great cameras in their own light and do different things better than the others, it's just which things you like the most.
Me I like dependability, and not having to run for fear when a little drizzle, snow is out in a cheap(comparatively speaking) model.
Sep 01, 2009 at 06:08 PM
p.4 #8the d300s killer
Chris Dees wrote:
Finally a prosumer body with pro-features. Still no MLU.
Let's see how the IQ is and how (if
) the AF works.
Uhm, the 7D does in fact have MLU, all Canon DSLR's do (except maybe the rebels).
It doesn't have a dedicated MLU button though, but who cares, it's rarely ever used. I can set a dedicated MLU button on my 1D MkIII if I want, but in the 6 years of using an SLR, I've probably only needed to use MLU once.
I've never heard of CLS before, but Nikon apparently needs to fix their TTL first.
http://www.planetneil.com/tangents/2009/03/25/ttl-flash-canon-and-nikon/
Finally a prosumer body with pro-features. Still no MLU.
Let's see how the IQ is and how (if
) the AF works.Uhm, the 7D does in fact have MLU, all Canon DSLR's do (except maybe the rebels).
It doesn't have a dedicated MLU button though, but who cares, it's rarely ever used. I can set a dedicated MLU button on my 1D MkIII if I want, but in the 6 years of using an SLR, I've probably only needed to use MLU once.
I've never heard of CLS before, but Nikon apparently needs to fix their TTL first.
http://www.planetneil.com/tangents/2009/03/25/ttl-flash-canon-and-nikon/
Sep 01, 2009 at 06:25 PM
p.4 #10the d300s killer
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Sep 01, 2009 at 06:39 PM
p.4 #11the d300s killer
kaybeejay wrote:
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Don't know about you, but I turn my camera on once and leave it on while I shoot. Don't understand the need for a quick on/off button.
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Don't know about you, but I turn my camera on once and leave it on while I shoot. Don't understand the need for a quick on/off button.
Sep 01, 2009 at 06:47 PM
p.4 #12the d300s killer
chez wrote:
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).Don't know about you, but I turn my camera on once and leave it on while I shoot. Don't understand the need for a quick on/off button.
Recent wedding I attended as a friend. I had my D90 with me. It was sitting on the table in front of me and powered down. I was just relaxing and enjoying the company at the table. The B&G where dancing - and unexpectedly the groom picks up the bride and twurls her around in the air. They only swung for maybe two full turns and was over in a few moments.
In one motion, I grabbed my camera off the table, turned it on, and grabbed this shot....
I never left my seat and my left hand didn't come into play except maybe to help steady the camera. The extra moment it would have taken me to power up would have probably prevented me from grabbing this exact shot.
I see your point though, for studio work or similar, this advantage becomes moot.
kaybeejay wrote
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Recent wedding I attended as a friend. I had my D90 with me. It was sitting on the table in front of me and powered down. I was just relaxing and enjoying the company at the table. The B&G where dancing - and unexpectedly the groom picks up the bride and twurls her around in the air. They only swung for maybe two full turns and was over in a few moments.
In one motion, I grabbed my camera off the table, turned it on, and grabbed this shot....
I never left my seat and my left hand didn't come into play except maybe to help steady the camera. The extra moment it would have taken me to power up would have probably prevented me from grabbing this exact shot.
I see your point though, for studio work or similar, this advantage becomes moot.
Sep 01, 2009 at 06:57 PM
p.4 #13the d300s killer
Nice shot .
Dd you shoot that in RAW? If so, you can fix the white balance by metering it off the abundant white in the scene, particularly off on the left there.
.Dd you shoot that in RAW? If so, you can fix the white balance by metering it off the abundant white in the scene, particularly off on the left there.
Sep 01, 2009 at 07:03 PM
p.4 #14the d300s killer
kaybeejay wrote:
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Do you not have it set to power down automatically when left in the on position? Just leave it on, it will power itself down and then hit the shutter button when you are ready.
but imagine all the shots Canon users have MISSED cause they were futzing around with menus and settings.
Example: Nikon locates the power on/off switch so that it came be turned on and off with ONE hand and in such a way that you don't have to contort your thumb or some other finger to reach something as simple as the "on" button. This new 7D has the power button on the left side - which will require you to use TWO hands just to turn the thing on (unless you have a freakishly long thumb on your right hand).
Do you not have it set to power down automatically when left in the on position? Just leave it on, it will power itself down and then hit the shutter button when you are ready.
Sep 01, 2009 at 08:12 PM
p.4 #15the d300s killer
musclepics wrote:
Let's see how the IQ is and how (if) the AF works.Uhm, the 7D does in fact have MLU, all Canon DSLR's do (except maybe the rebels).
It doesn't have a dedicated MLU button though, but who cares, it's rarely ever used. I can set a dedicated MLU button on my 1D MkIII if I want, but in the 6 years of using an SLR, I've probably only needed to use MLU once.
I've never heard of CLS before, but Nikon apparently needs to fix their TTL first.
http://www.planetneil.com/tangents/2009/03/25/ttl-flash-canon-and-nikon/
P1$$ off drizzles
why do you bother?
Chris Dees wrote
Finally a prosumer body with pro-features. Still no MLU.Let's see how the IQ is and how (if
) the AF works.It doesn't have a dedicated MLU button though, but who cares, it's rarely ever used. I can set a dedicated MLU button on my 1D MkIII if I want, but in the 6 years of using an SLR, I've probably only needed to use MLU once.
I've never heard of CLS before, but Nikon apparently needs to fix their TTL first.
http://www.planetneil.com/tangents/2009/03/25/ttl-flash-canon-and-nikon/
P1$$ off drizzles
why do you bother?
Sep 01, 2009 at 08:57 PM
p.4 #16the d300s killer
Jammy Straub wrote:
I normally feel sorry for most Canon users ZING.
ouch
vchowdhary wrote
I feel sorry for the 50D users. ZING. ouch
Sep 01, 2009 at 10:12 PM
p.4 #17the d300s killer
chez wrote:
Leif, that was you with the D200 around you neck the other day. Sorry I threw that tomato at you man.
I was hoping for a nice piece of cheese and some bread too. I don't suppose you can oblige next time? Who says there's no such thing as a free lunch.
LeifG wrote
Does this mean I now have to cary my D200 in a brown paper bag?I was hoping for a nice piece of cheese and some bread too. I don't suppose you can oblige next time? Who says there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Sep 02, 2009 at 04:18 AM
p.4 #18the d300s killer
LeifG wrote:
Does this mean I now have to cary my D200 in a brown paper bag?
No, you should carry it in plain sight with honor
Does this mean I now have to cary my D200 in a brown paper bag?
No, you should carry it in plain sight with honor
Sep 02, 2009 at 04:49 AM
p.4 #19the d300s killer
Chris Dees wrote:
Let's see how the IQ is and how (if) the AF works.Chris, have a little faith... For faith I switched to Nikon.
Doesn't Nikon just releases stuff that works?
Daan B wrote
Chris Dees wrote
Finally a prosumer body with pro-features. Still no MLU.Let's see how the IQ is and how (if
) the AF works.Doesn't Nikon just releases stuff that works?
Sep 02, 2009 at 04:56 AM
p.4 #20the d300s killer
FWIW does the D7 have full weather sealing? That is my biggest concern right now, most of canon's AF issues can be "fixed" by going to AI Servo, Center Point AF only, with expansion on, well at least on the 5DmkI. Letting the camera pick the AF point while shooting hockey or baseball isn't a wise choice no matter which camera you pick up. As for interfaces nothing will be a Leica M4-P / M6 / M7 or for that matter a Hexar RF, of course you need to use that analog storage medium called film.
A canon user.
Gerry
A canon user.
Gerry
Sep 02, 2009 at 05:18 AM