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Archive 2009Canon 7D
p.48 #1Canon 7D
Lezloid, if you take those two lenses as valid, why would the picture of a box posted show the 18-135 (which is not USM per lens data) mounted yet have clear labeling in the left corner stating a kit with USM and IS?
That, to me, would seem to designate that box photo as malarky. and if that one's crap, then I would certainly be more skeptical of the others.
That, to me, would seem to designate that box photo as malarky. and if that one's crap, then I would certainly be more skeptical of the others.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:16 AM
p.48 #2Canon 7D
dhphoto wrote:
So why 18 meg? Isn't that rather overegging the pudding for a sports shooter?
1) Canon seems to think that its customers want more megapixels;
2) forgetting sport shooters for a moment (they won't buy it unless RG says it's OK!
), wildlife/bird 'togs will be all over this camera if it works out, and as we're told all the time, more pixels = more cropping options = some redress for being FL challenged.
Edited on Aug 29, 2009 at 08:25 AM · View previous versions
So why 18 meg? Isn't that rather overegging the pudding for a sports shooter?
1) Canon seems to think that its customers want more megapixels;
2) forgetting sport shooters for a moment (they won't buy it unless RG says it's OK!
), wildlife/bird 'togs will be all over this camera if it works out, and as we're told all the time, more pixels = more cropping options = some redress for being FL challenged. Edited on Aug 29, 2009 at 08:25 AM · View previous versions
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:20 AM
p.48 #3Canon 7D
n0b0 wrote:
That box photo looks fairly believable and if it's true, there doesn't seem to be any built in flash.
By zooming in and squinting I see a button on the left side of the body that could be a flash pop-up button. I would be very surprised if it didn't have a flash
That box photo looks fairly believable and if it's true, there doesn't seem to be any built in flash.
By zooming in and squinting I see a button on the left side of the body that could be a flash pop-up button. I would be very surprised if it didn't have a flash
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:23 AM
p.48 #4Canon 7D
norrad wrote:
Lezloid, if you take those two lenses as valid, why would the picture of a box posted show the 18-135 (which is not USM per lens data) mounted yet have clear labeling in the left corner stating a kit with USM and IS?
That, to me, would seem to designate that box photo as malarky. and if that one's crap, then I would certainly be more skeptical of the others.
Not all USM lenses have USM labeled on the outer ring, maybe it depends on which version of USM?
Lezloid, if you take those two lenses as valid, why would the picture of a box posted show the 18-135 (which is not USM per lens data) mounted yet have clear labeling in the left corner stating a kit with USM and IS?
That, to me, would seem to designate that box photo as malarky. and if that one's crap, then I would certainly be more skeptical of the others.
Not all USM lenses have USM labeled on the outer ring, maybe it depends on which version of USM?
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:23 AM
p.48 #5Canon 7D
dhphoto wrote:
Don't shout at me for not having read every post here, but the received wisdom seems to be the 7D is effectively an EF-S mount APS-C crop sports camera, right?
...a baby 1D, that will take the cheapo crap EF-S zooms?
So why 18 meg? Isn't that rather overegging the pudding for a sports shooter?
Or am I missing something here?
David
No reason to use cheapo crap EF-S zooms.
EF-S is just an option to get WA on crop. Has very little to do with sports.
Not only sports. Looks like a dream camera for wildlife.
Don't shout at me for not having read every post here, but the received wisdom seems to be the 7D is effectively an EF-S mount APS-C crop sports camera, right?
...a baby 1D, that will take the cheapo crap EF-S zooms?
So why 18 meg? Isn't that rather overegging the pudding for a sports shooter?
Or am I missing something here?
David
No reason to use cheapo crap EF-S zooms.
EF-S is just an option to get WA on crop. Has very little to do with sports.
Not only sports. Looks like a dream camera for wildlife.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:28 AM
p.48 #6Canon 7D
TeamSpeed wrote
Not all USM lenses have USM labeled on the outer ring, maybe it depends on which version of USM?
That is true, however all the "leaked" specs on the two lenses list the 15-85 as USM and none of them show the 18-135 as USM.
Moreover, on all the EF-S lenses I have seen there is the hyphen (-) between the F and S, and on the box photo it appears to say "EFS".
Two fairly blatant discrepancies so my opinion is that photo has been altered.
Not all USM lenses have USM labeled on the outer ring, maybe it depends on which version of USM?
That is true, however all the "leaked" specs on the two lenses list the 15-85 as USM and none of them show the 18-135 as USM.
Moreover, on all the EF-S lenses I have seen there is the hyphen (-) between the F and S, and on the box photo it appears to say "EFS".
Two fairly blatant discrepancies so my opinion is that photo has been altered.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:32 AM
p.48 #7Canon 7D
dhphoto wrote:
By zooming in and squinting I see a button on the left side of the body that could be a flash pop-up button. I would be very surprised if it didn't have a flash
Ah, perhaps it's just the angle, looks smooth to me. I see the button too now.
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
By zooming in and squinting I see a button on the left side of the body that could be a flash pop-up button. I would be very surprised if it didn't have a flash
Ah, perhaps it's just the angle, looks smooth to me. I see the button too now.
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:34 AM
p.48 #8Canon 7D
n0b0 wrote:
Ah, perhaps it's just the angle, looks smooth to me. I see the button too now.
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
I would love this camera if it does indeed promise what it's suggesting but I also want a glass upgrade and I can't really afford both, so I may end up getting a 40D instead.
Just because it's "only a few hundred more" doesn't mean that few hundred more is within everyones price point.
dhphoto wrote
By zooming in and squinting I see a button on the left side of the body that could be a flash pop-up button. I would be very surprised if it didn't have a flashI'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
I would love this camera if it does indeed promise what it's suggesting but I also want a glass upgrade and I can't really afford both, so I may end up getting a 40D instead.
Just because it's "only a few hundred more" doesn't mean that few hundred more is within everyones price point.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:36 AM
p.48 #9Canon 7D
n0b0 wrote:
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
I certainly wouldn't buy an xxD,
... but many people prefer them over the rebels just because they can't stand the tiny grip on those. Since they otherwise would be fine with a rebel, those extra few hundreds would give them no affordable Canon alternative.
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
I certainly wouldn't buy an xxD,
... but many people prefer them over the rebels just because they can't stand the tiny grip on those. Since they otherwise would be fine with a rebel, those extra few hundreds would give them no affordable Canon alternative.
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:39 AM
p.48 #10Canon 7D
The box shot above is a photoshopped 50D kit box.
The 4 in iso 6400 is messed up & looks nothing like the 4 on a 5DII's 6400 icon.
All the icons are in the exact same spot as a 50D. The lighting on the camera is the same as a 50D box.
If this camera has movie mode, that would surely be one of the icons on the front, instead of a live view icon (ala 5DII box)
The 4 in iso 6400 is messed up & looks nothing like the 4 on a 5DII's 6400 icon.
All the icons are in the exact same spot as a 50D. The lighting on the camera is the same as a 50D box.
If this camera has movie mode, that would surely be one of the icons on the front, instead of a live view icon (ala 5DII box)
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:42 AM
p.48 #11Canon 7D
From Northlight :
We were sent this a few weeks ago (along with a -lot- more unsourced comments)
"7D is Pro-Crop, Dual DIGIC IV, 18.2 MP CMOS, 8 FPS, 19 All cross + 26 Hidden AF Points, 3 Inch LCD, 24/25/30/60 Frames per sec FHD/HD Movie, Electronic Focus Screen, Vertical & Horizontal Electronic Level-meter, Reveal @ 2nd Sep 2009."
We may have a true pro AF in the 7D
We were sent this a few weeks ago (along with a -lot- more unsourced comments)
"7D is Pro-Crop, Dual DIGIC IV, 18.2 MP CMOS, 8 FPS, 19 All cross + 26 Hidden AF Points, 3 Inch LCD, 24/25/30/60 Frames per sec FHD/HD Movie, Electronic Focus Screen, Vertical & Horizontal Electronic Level-meter, Reveal @ 2nd Sep 2009."
We may have a true pro AF in the 7D
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:51 AM
p.48 #12Canon 7D
Pixel Perfect wrote:
1.3x, 18MP, about 5 fps
1.6x, about 14.5MP, 8 fpsIf if was 18MP 1.3x crop it is 18*(1.3/1.6)^2 = 11.9MP in 1.6x crop mode.
Yes, I was in a hurry and too lazy to check the math
lexvo wrote
IF the 7D is for real, it could have some 'double' mode:1.3x, 18MP, about 5 fps
1.6x, about 14.5MP, 8 fps
Yes, I was in a hurry and too lazy to check the math
Aug 29, 2009 at 08:51 AM
p.48 #13Canon 7D
xxxD is just a couple of hundreds more than the xxxxD, so does xxD to xxxD. But apparently lots of people are still buying the xxxD and xxxxD.
Now Canon has 7 lines of DSLR, wow.
Now Canon has 7 lines of DSLR, wow.
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:04 AM
p.48 #14Canon 7D
alundeb wrote:
... but many people prefer them over the rebels just because they can't stand the tiny grip on those. Since they otherwise would be fine with a rebel, those extra few hundreds would give them no affordable Canon alternative.
That's true I suppose but I was thinking more along the line of people who's actually after the performance. Pro AF, faster burst, higher ISO and better VF for a few hundred more? Sounds like the better value to me.
... but many people prefer them over the rebels just because they can't stand the tiny grip on those. Since they otherwise would be fine with a rebel, those extra few hundreds would give them no affordable Canon alternative.
That's true I suppose but I was thinking more along the line of people who's actually after the performance. Pro AF, faster burst, higher ISO and better VF for a few hundred more? Sounds like the better value to me.
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:09 AM
p.48 #15Canon 7D
Fred Relaix wrote:
From Northlight :
We were sent this a few weeks ago (along with a -lot- more unsourced comments)
"7D is Pro-Crop, Dual DIGIC IV, 18.2 MP CMOS, 8 FPS, 19 All cross + 26 Hidden AF Points, 3 Inch LCD, 24/25/30/60 Frames per sec FHD/HD Movie, Electronic Focus Screen, Vertical & Horizontal Electronic Level-meter, Reveal @ 2nd Sep 2009."
We may have a true pro AF in the 7D
What does Electronic Focus Screen imply?
From Northlight :
We were sent this a few weeks ago (along with a -lot- more unsourced comments)
"7D is Pro-Crop, Dual DIGIC IV, 18.2 MP CMOS, 8 FPS, 19 All cross + 26 Hidden AF Points, 3 Inch LCD, 24/25/30/60 Frames per sec FHD/HD Movie, Electronic Focus Screen, Vertical & Horizontal Electronic Level-meter, Reveal @ 2nd Sep 2009."
We may have a true pro AF in the 7D
What does Electronic Focus Screen imply?
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:10 AM
p.48 #17Canon 7D
Rob Whiting wrote:
If this camera has movie mode, that would surely be one of the icons on the front, instead of a live view icon (ala 5DII box)
I was wondering that myself. Indeed, Canon should tout the "video capability" of the new camera by displaying that feature.
If this camera has movie mode, that would surely be one of the icons on the front, instead of a live view icon (ala 5DII box)
I was wondering that myself. Indeed, Canon should tout the "video capability" of the new camera by displaying that feature.
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:12 AM
p.48 #18Canon 7D
I have the same question. Doesn't this indicate the xxD line is at an end?
Who would buy a 50D over this camera?
n0b0 wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
Who would buy a 50D over this camera?
n0b0 wrote:
dhphoto wrote:
I'll repeat my question here. If the rumour is true, why would anyone buy the next xxD body when they can have this for a few hundred more.
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:16 AM
p.48 #19Canon 7D
for 600 less than a 7D, people would/might certainly go for a less-featured xxd.
1A: lower tier drebel ~400
1B: drebel ~600
2A: lower tier 7D ~1100
2B: 7D ~1700
3A: lower tier 5D2 ~2200
3B: 5D2 ~2700
4A: 1D3 ~ 4000
4B: 1Ds3 ~7500
1A: lower tier drebel ~400
1B: drebel ~600
2A: lower tier 7D ~1100
2B: 7D ~1700
3A: lower tier 5D2 ~2200
3B: 5D2 ~2700
4A: 1D3 ~ 4000
4B: 1Ds3 ~7500
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:25 AM
p.48 #20Canon 7D
n0b0 wrote:
Not so sure about that. The long end of the focal length kinda confuses me. Why 135? And what's the point when Canon had just released the 18-200mm last year?
That box photo looks fairly believable and if it's true, there doesn't seem to be any built in flash.
Haha, when I posted the pic clearly said "EF." Looks like it was just changed to EF-S. Just look at the previous versions of the post.
orangefirefish wrote
Okay that one is just clearly a fake... I'm pretty sure the 18-135 is supposed to be an EF-S lens....That box photo looks fairly believable and if it's true, there doesn't seem to be any built in flash.
Haha, when I posted the pic clearly said "EF." Looks like it was just changed to EF-S. Just look at the previous versions of the post.
Aug 29, 2009 at 09:38 AM