The 7d will NOT, in any possible way, be aps-h. Canon plans to eliminate that form factor, so it will either be FF or APS-C (and thus ef-s compatible). As mentioned by jrscls, if it is slated to sell for the same price as the 5dm2 then it cannot be a full frame with better AF and faster frame rate - even with a 12mp sensor. Most likely case based on what has been leaked, is that it will be an APS-C with popup flash and probably better AF than the 50d but NOT 1d AF. What that means exactly I don't know, perhaps a 19 point layout with assist only in the center....Show more →
There's several possibilities, and here's one. The 1-series merges into one full-frame, fast pro camera. The 1D Mk IV or whatever it might be called. 20+ mpx, all the speed and capability of the 1D3 (with an improved focus system) but with a full-frame sensor.
Then, the 7D becomes the new 1.3X, small-footprint sports/action camera with 12-15 mpx, 6-8 fps, and a nice pro AF system.
Probably wishful thinking on my part - I wouldn't mind a fast camera to use along side my 5D2, but I don't like what the APS-C has to offer. Even when I had a 40D along with my 5D, I almost always reached for the 5D. Such is the lure of a big, clean sensor at least to me.
This is all speculation, of course. If nothing else, it provides entertainment for the Canon marketers that get to read all this.
outlawyer wrote:
I guess it would be futile to hope for eye-controlled focus. A technology from the past that worked great on film bodies.
This gets brought up often here. My experience was the opposite. I had 2 Elan7e's, played with the eye control for a while on each, found it really annoying and turned it off. I'm not saying everyone felt this way. but I found it more of a gimmick.
XsigmaSD wrote:
This gets brought up often here. My experience was the opposite. I had 2 Elan7e's, played with the eye control for a while on each, found it really annoying and turned it off. I'm not saying everyone felt this way. but I found it more of a gimmick.
I imagine eye control would be great if you're the type of shooter that looks at what you want to focus on, but would be terrible if you want to focus one one object, but want to look around the frame to check composition.
There's several possibilities, and here's one. The 1-series merges into one full-frame, fast pro camera. The 1D Mk IV or whatever it might be called. 20+ mpx, all the speed and capability of the 1D3 (with an improved focus system) but with a full-frame sensor.
Then, the 7D becomes the new 1.3X, small-footprint sports/action camera with 12-15 mpx, 6-8 fps, and a nice pro AF system...
If Canon is indeed trying to phase out the 1.3X crop from their "professional" line then this might make sense.
kakomu wrote:
I imagine eye control would be great if you're the type of shooter that looks at what you want to focus on, but would be terrible if you want to focus one one object, but want to look around the frame to check composition.
It wasn't an issue you just don't know how it worked. It would only focus when you half pressed the shutter or the * button on back when you chooser your focus point. After you released or locked focus you could examine your comp without refocusing...
drobertfranz wrote:
It wasn't an issue you just don't know how it worked. It would only focus when you half pressed the shutter or the * button on back when you chooser your focus point. After you released or locked focus you could examine your comp without refocusing...
Tom_W wrote:
There's several possibilities, and here's one. The 1-series merges into one full-frame, fast pro camera. The 1D Mk IV or whatever it might be called. 20+ mpx, all the speed and capability of the 1D3 (with an improved focus system) but with a full-frame sensor.
It's possible that Canon will make a FF 1D4 but merging the 1D with 1Ds? I doubt they're going to halve their income willingly. It won't happen unless a competition product force them to do it I think.
kakomu wrote:
Seems a lot more work than it's worth.
Actually much quicker than manually going through 45 focus points with the back wheel to pick the one you want to use. And fairly reliable even for a glasses wearer like myself.
Not a feature that's high on my wish list, but I don't see why you have to knock it without seeming to have any first hand experience.
Zara wrote:
but I don't see why you have to knock it without seeming to have any first hand experience.
I didn't "knock" the feature. I said it seems like it was more work than it's worth.
I don't see why two different people have to attack me for showing little interest in a niche feature.
"I doubt they're going to halve their income willingly."
just to play advocatus diaboli, maybe they'd willingly halve the cost of producing two pro cameras (even though, admittedly, they are technically for two different groups), especially if they can can satisfy both groups with one (and split the price). nikon seems to get along fine with only one 'pro' camera.
abam wrote: "I doubt they're going to halve their income willingly."
just to play advocatus diaboli, maybe they'd willingly halve the cost of producing two pro cameras (even though, admittedly, they are technically for two different groups), especially if they can can satisfy both groups with one (and split the price). nikon seems to get along fine with only one 'pro' camera.
- 0R - ..........maybe they are in the process of marketing a larger than full frame size sensor and introduce that to the studio photographers to challenge the MF segment - ala Leica S2 or Nikon MX??!!!
They would need a whole new set of lenses for that.
R&D and then manufacturing costs (whole new, specific assembly lines, possybly even new factory) for this would be very, very high...
fraga wrote:
They would need a whole new set of lenses for that.
R&D and then manufacturing costs (whole new, specific assembly lines, possybly even new factory) for this would be very, very high...
It's not like Canon isn't capable. They did the same thing in the 1980s with the EF system.
kakomu wrote:
It's not like Canon isn't capable. They did the same thing in the 1980s with the EF system.
Maybe they are capable, but put into perspective, it's a very small (and relatively crowded) market segment for such an investment. One that they've already made effectively smaller with the 1Ds series and the photographers who have chosen it over medium format digital.
It would probably make more sense for Canon to focus such efforts on a micro-EF format system to compete against m4/3, which as a consumer/prosumer format, has a much larger potential customer base.
