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p.21 #1 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul Buff wrote:
It's 8mm OD (.315") with 0.020: walls. That makes the ID .275". 7mm is .2756" so would pretty much have to be hammered or pressed in. It's pretty difficult to fond 7mm steel shaft material in the US.


Thank you, Paul. That's great information. 7mm rod stock is difficult but not impossible to source here in the US. I've been able to get as much as I need from Small Parts through Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-ASTM-A582-Precision-Centerless-Ground/dp/B000HZS0QO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1262151548&sr=1-1). Larger quantities are readily available from www.metricmetal.com.

Will the next batch of PLMs (the ones with the shorter shafts) have the dimensions you mentioned above?

Thanks again for taking the time to post this detailed, esoteric information.

Dave F.



Dec 30, 2009 at 12:46 AM
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p.21 #2 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Yes. But around March V2 will have 7mm shaft and a completely different frame design and many improvements.


Dec 30, 2009 at 12:50 AM
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p.21 #3 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul Buff wrote:
Yes. But around March V2 will have 7mm shaft and a completely different frame design and many improvements.


As an Elinchrom user I'm eagerly looking forward to the new and improved 7mm PLMs. March should be a great month: The end of the miserable winter and the arrival of the new PLMs.

Dave F.



Dec 30, 2009 at 09:05 AM
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p.21 #4 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I used the medium PLM for a portrait of my niece when I was in London for Christmas.
Taken with an Elinchrom Quadra with an AB Silver 64” Parabolic Umbrella as modifier at camera left at approximately 1,5 meter from subject. Background lit with a bare SB900. 1,5 CTO gel attached to the Quadra, WB set to tungsten. Triggered with Skyports.
I haven't used the mid size PLM that much, but it provides a nice and crisp light used up close. In many location situations the ceiling is to low to use the larger one.


Happy New year to all on this forum. Wishing you all good light in 2010

Erik

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/4228095773_3b583f03a5_b.jpg




Dec 30, 2009 at 05:37 PM
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p.21 #5 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Nice niece



Dec 31, 2009 at 02:22 AM
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So, I recently got a silver 42" PLM and love it. I ordered the diffusion cover and appreciate that PCB acknowledges that the cover might be a little large and suggests twisting alternate grommets when attaching to tighten the cover across the umbrella.

My problem is that, even when I twist EVERY grommet to attach the cover, it is still so loose that it doesn't take much to start it falling off and, in fact, the twisted fabric acts as a spring and forces the grommets off the ribs with as little breeze as someone walking by.

I'm curious if this is typical in your experience (If I requested a replacement would it probably be the same) as I'm considering simply getting some 1/4" grommets and attaching new ones just inside the existing ones in the fabric.

Otherwise I love the modifier and will be using it on a shoot this week, probably with a little help from some gaffer tape.



Jan 06, 2010 at 02:39 PM
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Bump


Jan 12, 2010 at 07:51 PM
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p.21 #8 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


To follow up, I did exactly as I described. I purchased some grommets and a tool for about 6 dollars at a local fabric/craft store (12 per package, so I had to buy two packages) and put a new grommet just inside of each existing one. If I alternate one original and one new grommet when attaching it to the PLM it fits nice and snug without distorting the umbrella shape.


Jan 12, 2010 at 08:01 PM
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p.21 #9 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


i think this picture shows exactly why i am so excited using the large PLM.

here as main light camera right.
large foldable octobox camera left for killin a lil bit the shadows

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gkayacan/4272055414/




Jan 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM
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p.21 #10 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Paul Buff wrote:
Yes. But around March V2 will have 7mm shaft and a completely different frame design and many improvements.

But will it cost the same? What's the importance of shaft size? Smaller seems like it would be weaker.



Jan 13, 2010 at 02:14 PM
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p.21 #11 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


mattr762 wrote:
But will it cost the same? What's the importance of shaft size? Smaller seems like it would be weaker.


matt,

7mm shafts fit Elinchrom's central umbrella fitting. ProFoto use 8mm. Smaller shafts in some cases, like the Photek SL II, may be stronger if they are a solid steel rod. I wouldn't be surprised if PLM used the same approach on their 7mm shaft versions. Some of my better standard umbrellas with 7mm shafts seem to have a thicker wall and are actually stiffer than my cheaper 9mm shaft units.

Good luck.



Jan 13, 2010 at 03:02 PM
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p.21 #12 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Thanks Carmen.


Jan 13, 2010 at 03:14 PM
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p.21 #13 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


bump


Jan 21, 2010 at 07:43 PM
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p.21 #14 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I just ordered the small silver PLM Would've ordered the monster 86 as well, but it's on back order, so I'll get it later. I'll be posting about modifying the shaft to fit elinchrom if anyone is interested (couldn't wait for the V2)


Jan 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM
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p.21 #15 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I ordered a 64 PLM and a 86 PLM. My 64 PLM shipped 2 days ago, the 86 is still backordered. I placed my order back on 12/8.


Jan 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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p.21 #16 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


I ordered the small one just to tide me over as well. Can't wait until the backorder is over.

I hope that the diffusion covers fit better on the new ones.



Jan 22, 2010 at 01:06 PM
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p.21 #17 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


this backorder is killing me!!!


Jan 23, 2010 at 03:46 AM
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p.21 #18 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Josh Evilsizor wrote:
I just ordered the small silver PLM Would've ordered the monster 86 as well, but it's on back order, so I'll get it later. I'll be posting about modifying the shaft to fit elinchrom if anyone is interested (couldn't wait for the V2)


I look forward to reading about your experience Josh! The only thing that has stopped me from buying a PLM (or two) is the shaft size. Elinchrom here as well!

Mark



Jan 23, 2010 at 10:39 AM
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p.21 #19 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Elinchrom user as well... waiting on V2... great to see all the shots in this thread. Nice work all.
Hatch



Jan 23, 2010 at 02:58 PM
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p.21 #20 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Is it possible to drill out elinchrom's the extra mm to make standard umbrella's fit?



Jan 23, 2010 at 04:05 PM
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