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p.11 #1 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Any way i can pre-order to ensure i get one?


Sep 13, 2009 at 03:40 PM
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p.11 #2 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


does the 42" version throw the same output power as the 86" but with a narrower pattern ?


Sep 13, 2009 at 05:23 PM
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turbodude wrote:
Any way i can pre-order to ensure i get one?

I believe if you call Monday they can probably take your order. Not entirely sure because they probably have some pre orders ahead - but they should be able to take you order. Ask for Lori in need be and mention this post. Lori is VP of marketing and a super person.



Sep 14, 2009 at 12:10 AM
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denoise wrote:
does the 42" version throw the same output power as the 86" but with a narrower pattern ?

All three sizes produce the same amount of light and similar beam spread. Up close, the smaller sizes will produce slightly more light because there is less inverse square law drop from the edge of the PLM to the center of the subject. This is true of any large modifier. Small or large softboxes produce similar output from distances further than the size of the box. Smaller boxes produce more subject light when used close in.



Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
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I put a "pre-order" in for the new beauty dish and haven't heard anything and can't find it on the site?? Did the price remain the same? I'll try calling this week.


Sep 14, 2009 at 08:08 PM
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They are in, and being inspected. More due in tomorrow. Call customer service and it will likely ship in a few days depending on your position on the pre-order list. They're preparing the site now and it should be online in a few days.


Sep 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM
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p.11 #7 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


bump


Sep 16, 2009 at 07:50 AM
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Alright here are some more images taken with PLM 86" Silver. Morning Time around 7ish/Los Angeles. All one light setups B1600. No shots done above 1/4 power.

reflector was a min of 6 feet away in all shots.

All shots at http://thelafashionphotographer.blogspot.com/2009/09/86-plm-on-location-b1600-light.html

enjoy





Sep 16, 2009 at 01:47 PM
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lafashionphoto wrote:
Alright here are some more images taken with PLM 86" Silver. Morning Time around 7ish/Los Angeles. All one light setups B1600. No shots done above 1/4 power.

reflector was a min of 6 feet away in all shots.

All shots at http://thelafashionphotographer.blogspot.com/2009/09/86-plm-on-location-b1600-light.html

enjoy

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eBOZP6uIazc/SrEx0FgbhnI/AAAAAAAAAHM/uJ4f7_GyN2k/s1600/_DSC1476e.jpg

Nice, as usual. Suggestion . . . move the PLM back a bit and use full power, or better, use B800 or even B400. You'll get considerably better action stopping and wider coverage from the PLM . . . although your action is well stooped with the B1600 at 1/4. You'll get about 1/3 the flash duration with B800 at Full than B1600 at 1/4.

Regarding the new 22" High Output BD, they are almost as efficient as the PLM - I get f16 +4/10 at 10' ISO100 with B800 (320WS). About 45° beam spread. They are textured to tame them down and make really smooth patterns. They produce parallel rays so will lose very little power with grids compared to white dishes. They are also more even with diffuser sock.



Sep 16, 2009 at 02:59 PM
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Wait Paul, so the flash duration is actually shorter when you have full power?




Sep 16, 2009 at 03:41 PM
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Yes, this has been documented many times. Flash duration doubles from Full to 1/32, plus B800 at Full is considerably shorter than B1600 at Full. This is not unique to Buff lights, but applies to almost all monolights include most Euros. Speedlights behave entirely differently, as will future Buff products.

From http://www.paulcbuff.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59&sid=bdd559d230a702e6d2e583701fba82e3

Variable Voltage Control:
The primary method of flashpower control in most monolights such as AlienBees, White Lightning and most competitive products is by varying the voltage to which the flash capacitors are charged. This allows for a relatively wide range of power control without compromising the full power flash duration.

However, this method causes flash durations to become longer, rather than shorter, as power is reduced. As power is reduced from full power to 1/32 power, the flash duration typically approaches being twice as long. There is also a slight change in color temperature of about 60° Kelvin per halving of power with this method.



Sep 16, 2009 at 03:55 PM
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I'm getting a lot of "This image is copyrighted by the owner" alt text and an empty box with no images in a lot of posts. The last lafashionphoto post for example. What up with that?


Sep 16, 2009 at 04:17 PM
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I have no idea whats..up i'm hot linking to blogspot.com

they might not like it and stop it?

who knows?

You will have to click link to see photos unfortunately.



Sep 16, 2009 at 04:30 PM
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oh wow! Crazy! I have a b400 mono light too. Shall I just use that at full power then If I dont need the head room?


I thought faster flash duration happened with stopped down power...how wrong I was...






Sep 16, 2009 at 04:39 PM
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lafashionphoto wrote:
oh wow! Crazy! I have a b400 mono light too. Shall I just use that at full power then If I dont need the head room?

I thought faster flash duration happened with stopped down power...how wrong I was...



Yes. B400 at Full has 1/6000 second t.5, about 1/2000 t.1. B1600 at 1/4 power is the same output and recycle time, but has a flash duration of about 1/1300 t.5 and about 1/450 t.1. So the B400 is about four times faster.



Sep 16, 2009 at 05:05 PM
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wow awesome! Good to know! Stoked!


Sep 16, 2009 at 05:28 PM
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lafashionphoto wrote:
I have no idea whats..up i'm hot linking to blogspot.com
they might not like it and stop it?


That's what most sites typically do, so no need to try embedding the photos..just post a link to your current blog post.



Sep 16, 2009 at 05:37 PM
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p.11 #18 · PCB PLM system REVIEWS


Question.....
Why would one want to use the white plm (with spill kill) vs using the silver with the diffusion?



Sep 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM
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questions i have a zeus 2500 with a bi-tube head on it's way which should handle the larger waterfalls in my neighborhood. does the ringmaster make sense as a second head even if using it as a ringflash is not my primary application? with the umbrella adapter will the small PLM work well? the ringmaster is 1 1/2 lbs. is there any downside to getting the ringmaster instead of a Z2500SH flashhead? i just wonder if this will give me more options.



Sep 18, 2009 at 10:55 AM
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amplexis wrote:
questions i have a zeus 2500 with a bi-tube head on it's way which should handle the larger waterfalls in my neighborhood. does the ringmaster make sense as a second head even if using it as a ringflash is not my primary application? with the umbrella adapter will the small PLM work well? the ringmaster is 1 1/2 lbs. is there any downside to getting the ringmaster instead of a Z2500SH flashhead? i just wonder if this will give me more options.

No major downside except the ringmaster only projects an 80° pattern and won't fill the PLM to the edges. Using the front diffuser will help but wont extend the pattern out to the optimal 180° as will the standard head. This won't affect the pattern from the PLM much but will result in a smaller effective size - thus less shadow softening.



Sep 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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