It has now been a solid 4 years since Canon introduced the first 'affordable' full frame body. At the time discussion revolved around the idea that it would be only a matter of time before Canon released the first sub-$1,000 full frame DSLR just as they managed to release the digital Rebel as the first sub-$1,000 DSLR of any kind.
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF, it seems that Canon should still include a lower price point FF body in their lineup. Its killing me that I purchased the 24-105 a couple of years ago with the expectation that I would soon be using it on a used 5D and yet used prices still have barely fallen!
nads wrote:
It has now been a solid 4 years since Canon introduced the first 'affordable' full frame body. At the time discussion revolved around the idea that it would be only a matter of time before Canon released the first sub-$1,000 full frame DSLR just as they managed to release the digital Rebel as the first sub-$1,000 DSLR of any kind.
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF, it seems that Canon should still include a lower price point FF body in their lineup. Its killing me that I purchased the 24-105 a couple of years ago with the expectation that I would soon be using it on a used 5D and yet used prices still have barely fallen!...Show more →
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
I have no idea what you are talking about, FF entry point has not increased $1000. Further if you were to purchase a low clicks 5D those are selling between $1000-1300.
skibum5 wrote:
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
There were rebates and price drops within the first three months of the 5D's availability that got it easily to the $2699 point.
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
nads wrote: skibum5 wroteincreased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!There were rebates and price drops within the first three months of the 5D's availability that got it easily to the $2699 point.
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
yeah but the nov 07 price is not fair comparison that was already an old cam by then, may as well compared it to a used 5D and say it is a $1500+ increase
also even if you took the $2900 kit as legit comparison how is that $1000 less? they charge like $800 for the 24-105 as a kit so $2100 body vs. $2699 is only $600 difference and again that is comparing a new cam still in short supply vs. an old model.
$1800-$2000 price point is nicely wedged between the xxD's and the 5DMKII. I have a feeling they won't exploit this, thinking it'll eat into the 5DMKII sales or something.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
bluetsunami wrote:
$1800-$2000 price point is nicely wedged between the xxD's and the 5DMKII. I have a feeling they won't exploit this, thinking it'll eat into the 5DMKII sales or something.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
Just bought an immaculate used 5D on ebay for $1200. Whats wrong with that?
Most on ebay have been going for 1100-1350, depending on seller, shutter activations, blemishes, number of images of the camera.
That's probably what I'll do when I build the correct amount of funds. It'll either be a new FF body they release or a used 5D. I'm personally surprised at how low used 5D's are going for though.
Hah! I'm not too impatient... I haven't purchased a single piece of new equipment in over two years! I've been good and stayed away from this site for a long, long time. However my interest in gear has been rejuvenated since receiving the news of our first kid on the way.
I just figured I'd be to FF by now and was shocked when I walked into my local B&M and saw a used 5D in nice shape for the close to the same price as I nearly paid for a new one two years ago.
bluetsunami:
I'm personally surprised at how low used 5D's are going for though.
The prices are actually higher than last year. As a matter of fact the price of a new 5D was not much more than $1700 a year ago or so (with all the rebates).
I think that the release of a $2000 Sony FF will bring some common sense back to Canon.
By the way, Sony's 24-70 f/2.8 is much better than Canon's zoom. As a bonus, one gets IS.