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Archive 2009What happened to the affordable FF dream?
p.1 #1What happened to the affordable FF dream?
It has now been a solid 4 years since Canon introduced the first 'affordable' full frame body. At the time discussion revolved around the idea that it would be only a matter of time before Canon released the first sub-$1,000 full frame DSLR just as they managed to release the digital Rebel as the first sub-$1,000 DSLR of any kind.
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF, it seems that Canon should still include a lower price point FF body in their lineup. Its killing me that I purchased the 24-105 a couple of years ago with the expectation that I would soon be using it on a used 5D and yet used prices still have barely fallen!
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF, it seems that Canon should still include a lower price point FF body in their lineup. Its killing me that I purchased the 24-105 a couple of years ago with the expectation that I would soon be using it on a used 5D and yet used prices still have barely fallen!
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:01 PM
p.1 #2What happened to the affordable FF dream?
You know what they say....cheap food ain't good and good food ain't cheap
Seriously, I know what you mean. Wish I could go FF too.
Seriously, I know what you mean. Wish I could go FF too.
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:18 PM
p.1 #3What happened to the affordable FF dream?
nads wrote:
It has now been a solid 4 years since Canon introduced the first 'affordable' full frame body. At the time discussion revolved around the idea that it would be only a matter of time before Canon released the first sub-$1,000 full frame DSLR just as they managed to release the digital Rebel as the first sub-$1,000 DSLR of any kind.
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF,...Show more →
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
It has now been a solid 4 years since Canon introduced the first 'affordable' full frame body. At the time discussion revolved around the idea that it would be only a matter of time before Canon released the first sub-$1,000 full frame DSLR just as they managed to release the digital Rebel as the first sub-$1,000 DSLR of any kind.
What in the heck happened? Four years go by and instead of dropping in price, the FF options have increased in price by nearly $1000?
Considering canon's lower price lens lineup like the 85 1.8 and their f4 zooms shine on FF,...Show more →
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:42 PM
p.1 #4What happened to the affordable FF dream?
Canon needs to make a FF for about 1899.00
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:44 PM
p.1 #5What happened to the affordable FF dream?
digitalbug30d wrote:
Canon needs to make a FF for about 1899.00
i'm not particularly sure i believe it but if the 7D rumor on DPR is true then this will happen in 3 weeks. My bet is not for another year at least.
Canon needs to make a FF for about 1899.00
i'm not particularly sure i believe it but if the 7D rumor on DPR is true then this will happen in 3 weeks. My bet is not for another year at least.
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:50 PM
p.1 #6What happened to the affordable FF dream?
I have no idea what you are talking about, FF entry point has not increased $1000. Further if you were to purchase a low clicks 5D those are selling between $1000-1300.
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:51 PM
p.1 #7What happened to the affordable FF dream?
keep FF out of the sub 1K market.
Aug 05, 2009 at 06:58 PM
p.1 #8What happened to the affordable FF dream?
skibum5 wrote:
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
There were rebates and price drops within the first three months of the 5D's availability that got it easily to the $2699 point.
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
There were rebates and price drops within the first three months of the 5D's availability that got it easily to the $2699 point.
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:05 PM
p.1 #9What happened to the affordable FF dream?
in 2005 i bought my 5D I for 2200 after rebates.
i highly doubt that there will be a sub $2000 full frame any time soon, but only canon knows.
i highly doubt that there will be a sub $2000 full frame any time soon, but only canon knows.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:08 PM
p.1 #10What happened to the affordable FF dream?
nads wrote:
I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!There were rebates and price drops within the first three months of the 5D's availability that got it easily to the $2699 point.
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
yeah but the nov 07 price is not fair comparison that was already an old cam by then, may as well compared it to a used 5D and say it is a $1500+ increase
also even if you took the $2900 kit as legit comparison how is that $1000 less? they charge like $800 for the 24-105 as a kit so $2100 body vs. $2699 is only $600 difference and again that is comparing a new cam still in short supply vs. an old model.
skibum5 wrote
increased by $1000?? The 5D cost a lot more than $2699 when it came out. Wasn't it like $3500 or something (and there has been a tiny bit of inflation and lowering of the dollar since then which only adds even a little more to that).I don't think anybody expected the next FF to hit under $1000!
Last time I was close to buying it was available at all of the major outlets (b&h, amazon, adorama) kitted with the 24-105 for close to $2900. Bodywise that would give us a $1000 increase since November '07.
yeah but the nov 07 price is not fair comparison that was already an old cam by then, may as well compared it to a used 5D and say it is a $1500+ increase
also even if you took the $2900 kit as legit comparison how is that $1000 less? they charge like $800 for the 24-105 as a kit so $2100 body vs. $2699 is only $600 difference and again that is comparing a new cam still in short supply vs. an old model.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:11 PM
p.1 #11What happened to the affordable FF dream?
$1800-$2000 price point is nicely wedged between the xxD's and the 5DMKII. I have a feeling they won't exploit this, thinking it'll eat into the 5DMKII sales or something.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:13 PM
p.1 #12What happened to the affordable FF dream?
bluetsunami wrote:
$1800-$2000 price point is nicely wedged between the xxD's and the 5DMKII. I have a feeling they won't exploit this, thinking it'll eat into the 5DMKII sales or something.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
we should know in 19 days
$1800-$2000 price point is nicely wedged between the xxD's and the 5DMKII. I have a feeling they won't exploit this, thinking it'll eat into the 5DMKII sales or something.
I honestly think a FF camera at a reasonable price point (just before the price limit of hobbyists) would be a big boon. Strip out features or something just give me that larger sensor.
we should know in 19 days
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:16 PM
p.1 #13What happened to the affordable FF dream?
5D, great shape, 5K actuations, $1250... Here's an affordable FF dream for you>>> https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/800914
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:24 PM
p.1 #14What happened to the affordable FF dream?
Just bought an immaculate used 5D on ebay for $1200. Whats wrong with that?
Most on ebay have been going for 1100-1350, depending on seller, shutter activations, blemishes, number of images of the camera.
Scottt
Most on ebay have been going for 1100-1350, depending on seller, shutter activations, blemishes, number of images of the camera.
Scottt
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:29 PM
p.1 #15What happened to the affordable FF dream?
That's probably what I'll do when I build the correct amount of funds. It'll either be a new FF body they release or a used 5D. I'm personally surprised at how low used 5D's are going for though.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:37 PM
p.1 #16What happened to the affordable FF dream?
Canon's next release of DSLRs will most likely include one cheaper FF with lower specs. Don't be too impatient, it wouldn't be too long a wait.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:46 PM
p.1 #17What happened to the affordable FF dream?
Hah! I'm not too impatient... I haven't purchased a single piece of new equipment in over two years! I've been good and stayed away from this site for a long, long time. However my interest in gear has been rejuvenated since receiving the news of our first kid on the way.
I just figured I'd be to FF by now and was shocked when I walked into my local B&M and saw a used 5D in nice shape for the close to the same price as I nearly paid for a new one two years ago.
I just figured I'd be to FF by now and was shocked when I walked into my local B&M and saw a used 5D in nice shape for the close to the same price as I nearly paid for a new one two years ago.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:56 PM
p.1 #18What happened to the affordable FF dream?
big country wrote:
in 2005 i bought my 5D I for 2200 after rebates.
i highly doubt that there will be a sub $2000 full frame any time soon, but only canon knows.
Watch out for Sony. They will lead the way to the low cost FF system.
in 2005 i bought my 5D I for 2200 after rebates.
i highly doubt that there will be a sub $2000 full frame any time soon, but only canon knows.
Watch out for Sony. They will lead the way to the low cost FF system.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:56 PM
p.1 #19What happened to the affordable FF dream?
bluetsunami:
I'm personally surprised at how low used 5D's are going for though.
The prices are actually higher than last year. As a matter of fact the price of a new 5D was not much more than $1700 a year ago or so (with all the rebates).
I think that the release of a $2000 Sony FF will bring some common sense back to Canon.
By the way, Sony's 24-70 f/2.8 is much better than Canon's zoom. As a bonus, one gets IS.
I'm personally surprised at how low used 5D's are going for though.
The prices are actually higher than last year. As a matter of fact the price of a new 5D was not much more than $1700 a year ago or so (with all the rebates).
I think that the release of a $2000 Sony FF will bring some common sense back to Canon.
By the way, Sony's 24-70 f/2.8 is much better than Canon's zoom. As a bonus, one gets IS.
Aug 05, 2009 at 07:58 PM
p.1 #20What happened to the affordable FF dream?
Are Sony lenses more economical in the same categories?
EBH
EBH
Aug 05, 2009 at 08:03 PM