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Archive 2009 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?

  
 
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p.8 #1 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


digitaled - WOW!! That is quite a set-up. I think there are too much components involved in that process - and the 2 speedlights (in the end) will be heavier than the ELQ heads on a lightstand. That photo is gorgeous though!! - which proves that good lighting can be achieved if you are resourceful and creative




Jun 12, 2009 at 06:14 AM
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p.8 #2 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


For the Canon folk, a 1D can also do the high shutter speed stuff, at least in my tests, and with PW up to 1/1000th.

But the D40 really is neat. I just got one a few months ago, and with 2 SB800's you get a lot of options.

That being said, I still want some Quadra love. Slapping an Octa on there, or even just the Maxi reflector to get a nice long throw for sports... would be AWESOME

Max



Jun 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
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p.8 #3 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Could anyone please "measure" the Led "modelling" light with a light meter ?
Let's say 60cm, 1meter, 2 meter distance @ ISO100 ?

(correct me if I'm wrong but you can't vary the output of that one hah !?)

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Jun 12, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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p.8 #4 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Its not much.

100ASA 1/60 sec T1.4 1/3 at 1m



Jun 12, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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p.8 #5 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Gordonmac wrote:
Its not much.

100ASA 1/60 sec T1.4 1/3 at 1m

How long does it stay on?

I wonder how it compares to the cheap lights you mount on a video camera. Might be a nice bonus amount of light if I ever video something sith my 5D2 ;-)



Jun 12, 2009 at 02:04 PM
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p.8 #6 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Gordonmac wrote:
Its not much.

100ASA 1/60 sec T1.4 1/3 at 1m


Thanks Gordon !!!!
I'm surprised at the "low" input.
I recall seeing the Quadra at a fair, the led modeling light seemed to be quiet harsh, but that's probably more the nature of the led light then it's output.

A bulb modeling light doesn't blind you but the led seemed to be "anoying" to me.



Thanks

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Jun 12, 2009 at 03:46 PM
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p.8 #7 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Does anyone know the pricing for these in the U.S? I haven't seen a definitive answer.


Jun 15, 2009 at 10:22 AM
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p.8 #8 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


I don't think anyone knows yet. I went to my dealer - Allen camera and they never even heard of it. Neverless, I gave them my name and approx release date so that they can order it for me once it's in.


Jun 16, 2009 at 07:15 PM
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p.8 #9 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


I checked Quadra head today and found that stand bracket is not strong enough even to hold umbrella


Jun 16, 2009 at 09:04 PM
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p.8 #10 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


bugaglo wrote:
I checked Quadra head today and found that stand bracket is not strong enough even to hold umbrella



What happened? Was it too light that it tipped over? That would be a lightstand issue...... Unless of course something in the head broke - which would make me worry.....



Jun 16, 2009 at 11:40 PM
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p.8 #11 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


No, this is a head bracket issue, bracket is not strong and look like designed only to hold such a small head without accessories.


Jun 17, 2009 at 07:57 AM
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p.8 #12 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Are you saying the bracket won't even hold the weight of an umbrella? What happened when you tried to use one? More detail would be much appreciated, as I'm very interested in the Quadra.


Jun 17, 2009 at 08:14 AM
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p.8 #13 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


maybe I'm mistaken, but from what the elinchrom dealer told me, there's going to be a seperate adapter to hold accessories and both the head, which would mean the head itself wouldn't need to hold the accessories? As I understood it, this adapter will fit onto a tripod; on one end you'd have to connect the head and on the other side your choice of accessories? Can you post a pic?


Jun 17, 2009 at 09:51 AM
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p.8 #14 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


I'm pretty sure that the bare Quadra head with the kit reflector will hold an umbrella no problem. But I could be wrong. And so far, all the photos I've seen from the Quadra are bare bulb with the reflector.


Jun 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM
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p.8 #15 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


It hold umbrella, but you will need to turn ratchet handle very very tight actually, I believe it will brake after couple of days of hard field work.


Jun 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM
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p.8 #16 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


bugaglo wrote:
It hold umbrella, but you will need to turn ratchet handle very very tight actually, I believe it will brake after couple of days of hard field work.


So it does hold it after all........

I use mine with an 50cm eazybox attached. Yes you have to tighten it but yes it works just fine and holds it.



Jun 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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p.8 #17 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


Actually this has made me curious as to why it does slip with such a standard tightening mechanism. I've just taken mine apart. The mechanism tightens by one half of a rosette pattern (connected to the tightening handle) squeezing onto another half (etched into the plastic head case) through a rubber washer. The fly in the ointment seems to be the inclusion of a steel washer in between the tightening handle rosette and the rubber washer, causing it to slip at the rubber/steel washer interface. Take out the washer, and both rosette patterns are only sepparated by the soft rubber washer - it doesnt slip with much less tightening as well.

I can see what they've done here - its a trade off between a solid grip, which when released to make a head tilt adjustment sticks a bit due to the rubber, and a fluid adjustment mechanism for a very light weight head.

Edited on Jun 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM · View previous versions



Jun 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM
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p.8 #18 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


It surprise to me tight it so hard, I'm more prefer how bracket work on my Broncolor Mobil head or Alien Bees.


Jun 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
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p.8 #19 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


dang, so you guys already have this unit..

I'm quite interested in investing in a portable flash kit, but still not decided if it should be a quadra or ranger rx...(other brands are not an option since I'd like to use it with my elinchrom modifiers). Did some tests today with fx/bx 400 head on innovatronix pack with a 70x70 cm softbox w/o front diffuser; I was surprised it packed quite some power but since I'd like to do some more serious overpowering of the sun on full body shots, I'm not sure if quadra will give enough power. A maxi spot reflector might help....

From what I've seen in reviews and the unit itself in real life, the compact size and weight is a real bonus and this advantage is somewhat diminished with the full size Ranger packs.



Jun 17, 2009 at 02:27 PM
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p.8 #20 · Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?


evertdoorn wrote:
From what I've seen in reviews and the unit itself in real life, the compact size and weight is a real bonus and this advantage is somewhat diminished with the full size Ranger packs.


I'm a great believer owning gear that you have no excuse not to take with you and use. If I need a ranger RX and all that power, for a planned shoot in full sun, I rent it (they are so cheap to rent) The quadra on the other hand fits in the same backpack as my camera and now goes with me everywhere.



Jun 17, 2009 at 02:37 PM
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