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p.71 #1 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
Geez, that's some accomplishment, with the slowish 100-400 to boot.


100-400+1.4x TC The more I use the combo the more it surprises me.



May 22, 2009 at 09:58 PM
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p.71 #2 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
Thank you, Noelle, shots like that are not always premeditated.



They are when you are like me and you make them that way in PS



May 23, 2009 at 04:30 AM
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p.71 #3 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


pingflood wrote:
I'm no noelle, but I often prefer to shoot with manual exposure. When you remain in the same light it's often easier to do so than fiddle with the camera's various metering modes and trying to get them to do what you want. The camera will meter entirely different exposures when you point it towards the sky vs the ground even if the light remains the same, so the same bird might go from overexposed with a dark background to underexposed with a light background. What I do--and mind you, I am nowhere near in the same league as most
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YUP! I would have said the same thing

Hello Al, This family was in a pond I frequent and the ducks are not that wild. This mom was very trusting and sometimes brought her family too close and I would have to move back because of the 400mm. Some of the images were cropped but not too heavy since I was close enough.

I



May 23, 2009 at 04:42 AM
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p.71 #4 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


M Vers wrote:
Peter, I think you caught yourself a Wing Tong Killdeer*

I don't own a 400/5.6, but there's always room for a 100-400 shot here and there...
100-400+1.4x



Very nice images!!



May 23, 2009 at 04:43 AM
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p.71 #5 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


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Jealous! I hear we get that way when we get old and useless and have too much time on our hands... Go out and shoot some real birds for a change, Peter, we know you still have a few feeble shots left in those used hands of yours! Better than spending your old age lonely behind a computer taking my photography out of context and making a mockery out of it unprovoked for over 2 months now and intertwined over a dozen posts. Don't fret, Canon will come out with that fabled 10-stop IS !!! hahaha...
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That's funny



May 23, 2009 at 04:45 AM
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p.71 #6 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


I will not be able to do any nature shooting until next week

I have 250 baseball players today and a wedding tomorrow.....UGH!

This work stuff really gets in the way of my pleasure

The family left me all alone and headed to the Poconos for the weekend.



May 23, 2009 at 04:48 AM
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p.71 #7 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


pingflood wrote:
I'm no noelle, but I often prefer to shoot with manual exposure. When you remain in the same light it's often easier to do so than fiddle with the camera's various metering modes and trying to get them to do what you want. The camera will meter entirely different exposures when you point it towards the sky vs the ground even if the light remains the same, so the same bird might go from overexposed with a dark background to underexposed with a light background. What I do--and mind you, I am nowhere near in the same league as most
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What do you mean by "look for blinkies in the highlights" - is there a setting that will worn you...I'm assuming the highlight tone alert. One thing I liked about my old Panasonic P&S is that I could place the histogram in the upper right hand of the screen so that I could see it as the camera metered the shot and adjust on the fly without having to take a picture go to the screen and check it. But I know P&S and DSLRs are worlds apart. Can this be done with a 50D?

Here's been the way I've tried it: Point the camera at the scene and get a meter reading, adjust either the aperture or shutter speed, usually shutter speed because I like to keep the aperture wide open on the 400, until the meter is centered and then compensated to either +/- exposure compensation based on the scene (i.e. - for dark colors and + for lighter colors) or what I perceive to be the best exposure.

I plan, NEED, to take a class in exposure, particularly manual exposure because that is what I want to learn most.

Thanks for the response and help

Al




May 23, 2009 at 07:08 AM
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p.71 #8 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Where is Conrad ?
His friend is on a lookout for him, saying "Hey Conrad, let us practice some exposure control."

Edited on Nov 18, 2009 at 04:15 AM · View previous versions



May 23, 2009 at 08:57 AM
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p.71 #9 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


The 500mm gave me a bit more cropping power on the terns today, although the lens is much more cumbersome for extended handheld BIF photography than the 400 f/5.6. There is always some compromise in this craft, ideally we'd be able to get closer to the birds so that a very agile 300 f/4 or 200 f/2.8 could be used.
Target proximity rules.

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May 23, 2009 at 09:48 AM
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p.71 #10 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Think I'm getting a little better at focus and holding steady - a shot from this morning:

http://www.hfgilbert.com/images/Birds/IMG_0744.jpg

and a 100% crop: - you can see my garage reflected in the squirrel's eye:

http://www.hfgilbert.com/images/Birds/IMG_0744c.jpg

Set up a Finch feeder and had visitors within 30 minutes:

http://www.hfgilbert.com/images/Birds/images/IMG_0703.jpg



May 23, 2009 at 02:37 PM
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p.71 #11 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Great Harry! Your finch still looks a little soft....are you using a tripod?

Mr. Squirrel looks great! What is he eating?



May 23, 2009 at 02:43 PM
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p.71 #12 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Nope, handheld; I'm really trying to learn proper hold and brace technique. It could be the hanging Finch feeder was swaying in the 15mph wind.

Squirrel is eating a peanut. I throw out a few handsful every morning and watch the squirrels and grackels fight it out. The squirrels are smarter - they come up to me and beg.

My "backyard" collection is at: http://www.hfgilbert.com/images/Birds
The sequence is in chronological order from when I set up the feeder.



May 23, 2009 at 02:48 PM
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p.71 #13 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


harrygilbert wrote:
Nope, handheld; I'm really trying to learn proper hold and brace technique. It could be the hanging Finch feeder was swaying in the 15mph wind.

Squirrel is eating a peanut. I throw out a few handsful every morning and watch the squirrels and grackels fight it out. The squirrels are smarter - they come up to me and beg.

My "backyard" collection is at: http://www.hfgilbert.com/images/Birds
The sequence is in chronological order from when I set up the feeder.


I like to hold and brace myself but if I am not shooting a BIF I will use my tripod. It really helps me.



May 23, 2009 at 02:56 PM
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p.71 #14 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
Don't panic. Just a couple of test shots.



#2 it just tops! Great shot man!



May 23, 2009 at 03:37 PM
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p.71 #15 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


pingflood wrote:
Hey everyone, I am back from a hiatus so have some pages to catch up on!

Ran into some terns again today though. This time with the 20D.




Hey pingflood! Good stuff man! Love these. #1 is my fav.



May 23, 2009 at 03:39 PM
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p.71 #16 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
Where is Conrad ?
His friend is on a lookout for him, saying "Hey Conrad, let us practice some exposure control."


Damn you and your Grackles... I love the exposure you're able to get on those birds Peter. Hehe... Sorry I've been out shooting more eagles and stuff. But the light has not been cooperating by the time I'm off work.



May 23, 2009 at 03:40 PM
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p.71 #17 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
The 500mm gave me a bit more cropping power on the terns today, although the lens is much more cumbersome for extended handheld BIF photography than the 400 f/5.6. There is always some compromise in this craft, ideally we'd be able to get closer to the birds so that a very agile 300 f/4 or 200 f/2.8 could be used.
Target proximity rules.


So..... looks like I'm going to have to save up for the 500mm now! Hehe... Nice shots Peter. Very nice. #3 is my fav.



May 23, 2009 at 03:41 PM
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p.71 #18 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


I think I found a great blue heron today

Overcast day so light wasn't very strong, but I like it... looks like he almost grew out of the tree!

http://beyondthematrix.com/IMG_8440.jpg



May 23, 2009 at 03:58 PM
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p.71 #19 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Very cool shot pingflood! You were able to get up fairly close I see!


May 23, 2009 at 04:08 PM
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p.71 #20 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Yup, I only cropped maybe 10% off the bottom of that shot. Was crawling behind a bush


May 23, 2009 at 04:12 PM
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