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Conrad Tan wrote:
I'm thinking of getting the 500mm next. I think the 500 + the 50D would make a pretty formidable combo. Not too sure if I can use it for BIF shots thought! Haha!


Conrad, I'd suggest you rent that 500 f/4 first so that you can test it for 2-3 days.

The 500 f/4 makes a great pod mounted lens, for targets that lend themselves to be captured on a pod mounted rig. For handheld photography the lens is less than ideal, and more so the faster and more intense the action becomes. That's where the 400 f/5.6 is hard to beat at 20% of the 500 f/4 price.



May 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM
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p.65 #2 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Chris B. wrote:
Conrad -

You know, if you get the 500mm, we won't let you post on this thread anymore.... Check out some of the posts on the "Nature & Wildlife" forum... lots of fabulous BIF shots with the 500mm and probably the 50D too.


Man Chris... Getting kicked off a thread I started! You guys are cold! Haha!



May 19, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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harrygilbert wrote:
I have the 400/5.6 and 500/4 (thanks to an understanding wife) and find that sometimes the sound of the IS and/or the reflection from the larger front glass surface spooks the critters (when I'm working close-in), something I don't get with the 400. But, if you get the 500, you'll not be sorry for the IQ. It's a marvelous lens.

If you get the 500, be sure to budget for the Bushhawk and Wimberly QR mount. I also put a Wimberly P5 Arca-Type Universal Quick Release Plate on the bottom of the Bushhawk, so I can use my monopod with RRS
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Thanks Harry. I will keep those in mind. You just added another grand to my budget! Damn it! Haha! I KNEW someone here would have both and would share the experience! Gotta love this forum!



May 19, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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PetKal wrote:
Conrad, I'd suggest you rent that 500 f/4 first so that you can test it for 2-3 days.

The 500 f/4 makes a great pod mounted lens, for targets that lend themselves to be captured on a pod mounted rig. For handheld photography the lens is less than ideal, and more so the faster and more intense the action becomes. That's where the 400 f/5.6 is hard to beat at 20% of the 500 f/4 price.


I've considered that too Peter! There's an outfit here that rents them so once Danno calls me to go shooting I'll go out and rent it first and see how I like it. The motivation for this is I'm trying to find and photograph the holy grail of birds in this area, a bald eagle. I hear there are a couple around in Berkeley hills, Fremont hills and at my folks area in Benicia, all about an hours drive from each other. Once I find out where any one of is, I'll go rent the 500mm or maybe even the 600mm and see what I can get! Thanks again Peter!



May 19, 2009 at 12:16 PM
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p.65 #5 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Even a good sharp bird against a vacant sky looks kinda sterile when compared to even marginally captured birds in unusual surroundings and varied backgrounds.


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May 19, 2009 at 09:22 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Even a good sharp bird against a vacant sky looks kinda sterile when compared to even marginally captured birds in unusual surroundings and varied backgrounds.



Beautifully shot Peter! Just wonderful!



May 19, 2009 at 09:44 PM
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Thank you kindly, Conrad, I think I am going to drop 400 f/5.6 for a while now and take the "Chubby" to the lake tomorrow, see how she does terns after almost 2 years of dormancy.

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May 19, 2009 at 10:02 PM
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philtax wrote:
I have had such a good time following this thread that it actually inspired me to crawl out on a bluff and take a few pictures of birds. Now you must understand that this is my first attempt at this so these are far below the level of most of the photos in this thread. Still I felt the need to contribute, if only to let you all know how much better you are than some of us!

These were taken on the bluff at Sea Ranch, about 100 miles north of SF. Lots of birds seem to be flying north
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Hey Phil! Glad to have helped (hopefully) get you crawling on bluffs and off your duff! Nice shots man. I like the pelicans especially.

Now since you are (again hopefully) in the Bay Area, you should go out and shoot some here in the South Bay sometime. There are more birds here than you can shake a stick at! Thanks for contributing!



May 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Thank you kindly, Conrad, I think I am going to drop 400 f/5.6 for a while now and take the "Chubby" to the lake tomorrow, see how she does terns after almost 2 years of dormancy.


"Chubby" Hehe... good name. Can't wait to see the results man!



May 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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Thanks for your kind words Conrad - I nearly fell on my duff climbing out on the bluff!

Phil



May 19, 2009 at 10:21 PM
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p.65 #11 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


So that's just a teaser shot for you all to guess! Hehe...


May 19, 2009 at 10:26 PM
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p.65 #12 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Conrad Tan wrote:
So that's just a teaser shot for you all to guess! Hehe...



Immature Canadian Bald Eagle ?



May 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM
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p.65 #13 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


NO ONE else wants to guess?


May 19, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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p.65 #14 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Woo hoo, that first one has the background to die for. What kinda pecker is that ?


May 19, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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p.65 #15 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


PetKal wrote:
Woo hoo, that first one has the background to die for. What kinda pecker is that ?


Its the rare ivory billed woodpecker. Haha! NOT! Looks like it though doesn't it?



May 19, 2009 at 10:44 PM
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p.65 #16 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Doesn't look like it. Well, how's a Buteo hawk, such as Red Tail ?


May 19, 2009 at 10:54 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Doesn't look like it. Well, how's a Buteo hawk, such as Red Tail ?


Put it this way Peter... I don't even WANT to top Noelle's Ospreys. Hehe... Give me a half hour. I'm processing as fast as I can!



May 19, 2009 at 10:58 PM
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p.65 #18 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Dang dude! Any closer and you're a quick snack for that bird! The suspense is killing me!


May 19, 2009 at 11:05 PM
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p.65 #19 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Ok that's enough for now... I'm literally waiting for all the images to download as I type this from my SECOND CF card! Hehe.... I hope you all enjoy them! Good guess by the way Peter. And Wing, you HAVE to get out there and redeem your Wing Tong Eagle that Peter has been busting your balls over Haha!


May 19, 2009 at 11:14 PM
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p.65 #20 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Wow. Wow. All I can say, nay, ask now is "Who is Noelle ?"
Conrad, you've become the Northern California Birdmaster.



May 19, 2009 at 11:14 PM
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