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noelle wrote:
#3 It's not too late...... RUN!!


Too late.

Noelle, with so many of your "friends" darkening the skies today, it looked as if the birds of death or Furiae have descended upon earth.
After spending some time with them, what a relief in shooting a heavenly white dove.

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May 17, 2009 at 08:45 PM
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noelle wrote:
Conrad did you shoot it in RAW


Nope... I've become a jpg shooter like PetKal. Hehe... I only use RAW when conditions/subject calls for it (all black birds and all white birds mostly). But for most shots, jpg is ok with me.



May 18, 2009 at 01:48 AM
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noelle wrote:
Visited my osprey pair today. Mom left the nest twice to chase away some other birds but came back very quickly


Nice shots Noelle? Hey why are the shots crooked? I wish I had something like that to photograph.



May 18, 2009 at 01:50 AM
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PetKal wrote:
All around, had a productive day with the 400 f/5.6 although nothing spectacular came out of it photographically.
* Shot a whole bunch of stunt CIFs.
* Got a few decent Common Grackle shots.
* A couple of passable GIF shots.
* A few diverse keepers.
* Shot a wedding (with 400 f/5.6.)


Nice shots Peter! The wedding shot is very "paparazzi" of you! Hehe... Man there seems to be a lot of activity at this place. You get lots of interesting shots every time you go there!



May 18, 2009 at 01:51 AM
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PetKal wrote:
Too late.

Noelle, with so many of your "friends" darkening the skies today, it looked as if the birds of death or Furiae have descended upon earth.
After spending some time with them, what a relief in shooting a heavenly white dove.


But those are some nicely exposed cormorants AND pijun! Now tell me Peter when you shoot the white birds, do you spot meter the white or do you use evaluative depending on how light the background is and just adjust the exposure to compensate?



May 18, 2009 at 01:53 AM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
Nope... I've become a jpg shooter like PetKal. Hehe... I only use RAW when conditions/subject calls for it (all black birds and all white birds mostly). But for most shots, jpg is ok with me.


Good luck with that




May 18, 2009 at 05:30 AM
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PetKal wrote:
Too late.

Noelle, with so many of your "friends" darkening the skies today, it looked as if the birds of death or Furiae have descended upon earth.
After spending some time with them, what a relief in shooting a heavenly white dove.



I think my Cormorants came your way. Not a single one at my park in two weeks



May 18, 2009 at 05:30 AM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
Nice shots Noelle? Hey why are the shots crooked? I wish I had something like that to photograph.



They are not crooked..... I was on a very dangerous slope, hanging from a branch and holding on with one hand while shooting with the other.

Let's see you try that Conrad!



May 18, 2009 at 05:37 AM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
But those are some nicely exposed cormorants AND pijun! Now tell me Peter when you shoot the white birds, do you spot meter the white or do you use evaluative depending on how light the background is and just adjust the exposure to compensate?


On those stationary birds with extreme colouring I typically use spot or partial metering in Av mode, depending on the bird size in the VF.

On birds in flight I will use manual metering, and on occasion evaluative metering in Tv mode with an appropriate amount of EC, based on experience.



May 18, 2009 at 07:06 AM
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Chris B. wrote:
Here's a grey catbird from a few days ago... Mk3 with the 100-400



MEOW!!



May 18, 2009 at 07:55 AM
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This is disappointing......a very nice background yet the birds are not properly focused and the second pijun is not good looking.
It must be either my MkII N or 400 f/5.6 that is no good, because I know what I am doing.

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 09:21 PM · View previous versions



May 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM
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PetKal wrote:
This is disappointing......a very nice background yet the birds are not properly focused and the second pijun is not good looking.
It must be either my MkII N or 400 f/5.6 that is no good, because I know what I am doing.


Well OBVIOUSLY its the camera! We know the lens is quick. We know you've got skills. So logically the MKIIN is the culprit!



May 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM
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noelle wrote:
Good luck with that



I've had pretty good luck with it as the 50D really has some good jpg reditions straight out of the camera. In fact, most of my shots I've been putting up here are straight out of the 50D. I only have trouble with egrets and cormorants. That's when RAW comes in. Hehe....



May 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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Chris B. wrote:
Here's a grey catbird from a few days ago... Mk3 with the 100-400


Nice Chris! I don't think we have that species around my neck of the woods. Mostly magpies and bluejays.



May 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
Here's the KF pulled back as far as I can Peter. You're right it looks better this way. Good advice as usual. Muchas gracias!


Oh, yes, a big difference IMO.
If you pull back just a bit more, lighten the bird slightly and reduce contrast some, that should be a killer image.

For example, I believe I've cropped this tern as far as it could go. If done any bigger, the IQ would have started to fall apart.

Edited on Nov 16, 2009 at 09:20 PM · View previous versions



May 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM
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Very nice, Conrad.


May 18, 2009 at 01:45 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Very nice, Conrad.


Thanks Peter. I could not back out any more without really putting him too much towards the bottom as he was originally shot. Again thanks for the framing/pp tips!



May 18, 2009 at 01:53 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Oh, yes, a big difference IMO.
If you pull back just a bit more, lighten the bird slightly and reduce contrast some, that should be a killer image.

For example, I believe I've cropped this tern as far as it could go. If done any bigger, the IQ would have started to fall apart.


Boy I just love how you always get the glint in the tern's eyes. I can never seem to get that! Great shot man!



May 18, 2009 at 01:54 PM
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p.63 #19 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Conrad Tan wrote:
Boy I just love how you always get the glint in the tern's eyes.



Far from always....usually I don't keep those that do not show the eye/catchlight.
If the eye is not in direct sunlight you can't bring it out easily in these black-capped terns.
This image is sharp enough and all that, but there is no eye to be seen so I am not normally showing it.

Edited on Nov 18, 2009 at 04:19 AM · View previous versions



May 18, 2009 at 02:19 PM
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That heron is one fine image, Conrad, in all its key elements.

(1) You get high mark 1 for nice background (generally that kind is much nicer than empty sky).
(2) High mark 2 for difficulty: AF Servo is severely challanged by busy background even on series 1 cameras.
(3) High mark 3 for difficulty: A bird in full flight (look at the feet) is harder to nail than one landing, taking off or hovering.



May 18, 2009 at 06:56 PM
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