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p.58 #1 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Pelicans! OK, here's one, bad light but it's hard at work

http://beyondthematrix.com/VH0M5073.jpg



May 11, 2009 at 08:42 PM
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p.58 #2 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Excellent shots Conrad. You did a full month shooting in one day! Thanks for the update on the Don Edwards, I'm temped to venture out there again.


May 11, 2009 at 10:02 PM
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Conrad, you've had a very productive day here.
Some excellent photos compositionally and exposure-wise.
The BIF shots are getting better and better, especially the fast terns.

One more thing IMO that you'd still need to polish up a bit is the exposure of those terns......I'd like to see their eye, and I'd like to see less cropping. Position yourself closer to their flight/fishing path........400 mm should be plenty long for that. As an example, I got these two images with a 200mm lens. Another benefit of proximity to them is that they will give you the eye contact.

Once you accomplish that with a bit of practice, I am confident you'll be able to shot with the best small BIF shooters out there.

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May 11, 2009 at 10:03 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Conrad, you've had a very productive day here.
Some excellent photos compositionally and exposure-wise.
The BIF shots are getting better and better, especially the fast terns.

One more thing IMO that you'd still need to polish up a bit is the exposure of those terns......I'd like to see their eye, and I'd like to see less cropping. Position yourself closer to their flight/fishing path........400 mm should be plenty long for that. As an example, I got these two images with a 200mm lens. Another benefit of proximity to them is that they will give you the eye contact.

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Thanks Peter! Geez... how do you do that?!?! I can never get the eyes of these damn terns. Great shots man! Just beautiful!



May 11, 2009 at 11:11 PM
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p.58 #5 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Well, Conrad, proximity to your target beats FL any time, and that includes 500, 600 and 800 lenses. Here is another tern caught with a 200mm lens.

In fact, on these kinds of birds I get the best results with the following lenses: 300 f/4 non-IS, 300 f/2.8 IS and 200's (f/1.8, f/2.0 and f/2.8 primes).

The 400 f/5.6 is good but often too long and too slow......larger aperture lenses allow faster/more accurate focusing which is more critical here than FL.

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May 11, 2009 at 11:41 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Well, Conrad, proximity to your target beats FL any time, and that includes 500, 600 and 800 lenses. Here is another tern caught with a 200mm lens.

In fact, on these kinds of birds I get the best results with the following lenses: 300 f/4 non-IS, 300 f/2.8 IS and 200's (f/1.8, f/2.0 and f/2.8 primes).

The 400 f/5.6 is good but often too long and too slow......larger aperture lenses allow faster/more accurate focusing which is more critical here than FL.


Man... don't tell me I need to start lugging around my 70-200 f2.8 on my 5DII now as well. Haha!! Great shot Peter. I'll see what I can do about getting closer and/or more discipine before shooting.



May 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM
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Getting closer can be a problem. here's a shot with the bigma @500mm with a 2x TC,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3525113680_cc38014608.jpg



May 12, 2009 at 03:40 AM
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p.58 #8 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


OK.... it's cuteness for me this week. My boys have had baseball games so the little park only has squirrels

I armed myself with a 6lb bad of nuts and watch the little critters as the literally surround me






May 12, 2009 at 06:02 AM
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p.58 #9 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


conrad some of those new shots are really great


May 12, 2009 at 11:29 AM
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toddmitchell wrote:
conrad some of those new shots are really great


Thanks Todd. Going to try to get a red-tail's nest next. Its pretty high up on this powerline though so we'll see!



May 12, 2009 at 02:09 PM
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noelle wrote:
OK.... it's cuteness for me this week. My boys have had baseball games so the little park only has squirrels

I armed myself with a 6lb bad of nuts and watch the little critters as the literally surround me


I suppose cuteness has some weight hehe... Nicely shot Noelle... Now if they were only cute FLYING squirrels! Haha!



May 12, 2009 at 02:15 PM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
I suppose cuteness has some weight hehe... Nicely shot Noelle... Now if they were only cute FLYING squirrels! Haha!



hmmmm..... nope.... no flying squirrels in NJ




May 12, 2009 at 03:29 PM
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toddmitchell wrote:
conrad some of those new shots are really great


I agree! I love the diving shots.



May 12, 2009 at 03:30 PM
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noelle wrote:
hmmmm..... nope.... no flying squirrels in NJ


Just toss one up in the air and shoot! That'll be good for a couple shots before he bites you! Hehe.. (Just kidding...)



May 12, 2009 at 04:46 PM
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noelle wrote:
I agree! I love the diving shots.


Thanks Noelle. The 1D is the perfect tool for those kind of shots for sure! my 50D is just too slow.



May 12, 2009 at 04:47 PM
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Any tips on how to acquire, focus and track birds as they are zooming along? I'm assuming hours and hours of practice will help but I might as well ask you folks!


May 12, 2009 at 09:20 PM
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p.58 #17 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


gpsphoto wrote:
Any tips on how to acquire, focus and track birds as they are zooming along? I'm assuming hours and hours of practice will help but I might as well ask you folks!


For the best and fastest results start practicing on bugs in flight.
After you master those, then any birds should be as easy for you as eating a square pie.

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May 12, 2009 at 09:46 PM
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PetKal wrote:
For the best and fastest results start practicing on bugs in flight.
After you master those, then any birds should be as easy for you as eating a square pie.


Great tip Peter!



May 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM
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p.58 #19 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


gpsphoto wrote:
Any tips on how to acquire, focus and track birds as they are zooming along? I'm assuming hours and hours of practice will help but I might as well ask you folks!


For me, I've been shooting for 3 months now, almost every day at least an hour a day. I try to track anything that moves. And I mean anything, just for the practice. Make sure the BG is pleasing as well. It really helps the photo I've learned (thanks Peter).

I spent a LOT of time with gulls and ducks. They are everywhere and are great to practice on. Good luck!



May 12, 2009 at 11:52 PM
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p.58 #20 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Conrad..... those are great!!

So I went to the park yesterday after having a really bad day and tried to take a picture of me surrounded by the squirrels but it did not work out very well

The time on the 5D is not long enough



May 13, 2009 at 03:57 AM
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