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Conrad Tan
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noelle wrote:
Very nice Conrad!

What kind of bird is that?


I think its some kind of red-beaked-faster-than-heck tern. Not really sure. I'm going to go out to where Wing was shooting this weekend to try and get some BCNH in the trees! I have the day off so off I go! Hehe... Have a good day Noelle.



Apr 01, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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noelle wrote:
Very nice Conrad!

What kind of bird is that?


Caspian Tern (Sterna caspia).

Colin



Apr 01, 2009 at 12:08 PM
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p.15 #3 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


Thanks Colin! The knowledge in this forum never ceases to amaze...


Apr 01, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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p.15 #4 · 400mm is "getting" sharp enough!


The "fin" on the male pelican is actually a breeding horn. Looks like your getting the hang of the 400


Apr 01, 2009 at 12:10 PM
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M Vers wrote:
The "fin" on the male pelican is actually a breeding horn. Looks like your getting the hang of the 400


"Breeding horn" eh? Hehe... I'm sorry I though thats kinda what human males have too, so to speak....

And thanks. The 400mm has been great. I'm having a ball out there! Even made a few friends with some "nikon" shooting folks!



Apr 01, 2009 at 12:15 PM
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Conrad Tan wrote:
I think its some kind of red-beaked-faster-than-heck tern. Not really sure. I'm going to go out to where Wing was shooting this weekend to try and get some BCNH in the trees! I have the day off so off I go! Hehe... Have a good day Noelle.



Now that.... was funny!

I knew you did not know neither did I

I guess we need to get a bird book



Apr 01, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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noelle wrote:
Now that.... was funny!

I knew you did not know neither did I

I guess we need to get a bird book


Yes Noelle, its time to get a bird book alright! But I LIKE giving them funny names. It brings out the 15 year old in me! Haha!



Apr 01, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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Excellent captures of the tern, Conrad.

Couple of suggestions:
(1) Watch your exposure/processing....those birds need to be whiter.
(2) Since you are doing enlargement crops, the ISO noise shows. I am not sure you really needed hi ISO there......you were shooting at two stops higher than needed. However, those pictures you should scrub with the Neat Image or equivalent NR program.



Apr 01, 2009 at 01:51 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Excellent captures of the tern, Conrad.

Couple of suggestions:
(1) Watch your exposure/processing....those birds need to be whiter.
(2) Since you are doing enlargement crops, the ISO noise shows. I am not sure you really needed hi ISO there......you were shooting at two stops higher than needed. However, those pictures you should scrub with the Neat Image or equivalent NR program.


+1
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Conrad, you said you shoot both jpg+raw. Do you use the raw or do you post your jpg straight out of the camera? It is always best to capture your shots correctly in the camera but for those you've already taken and want to save, (if you aren't already doing this) try opening the raw file in DPP (free ) and play around in there, specifically with exposure and NR, but other functions are useful too. Sounds like a pain if you have 200+ image to process everytime but you can save a recipe and apply it to all other files which is what I do and then quickly tweak each exposure if necessary. My RAW editing of a batch of 200 files takes about 20 minutes, then the computer processes them to JPGs in about 1 hour.



Apr 01, 2009 at 02:12 PM
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Well guys, went to do some PIF-ing today with the 400 f/5.6, but just could not get myself in a good vantage position wherever I turned. Fired some 40 shots dutifully, but no keepers.
Changed the lens to 200 f/2.8 prime, but that didn't help any.
As a consolation prize managed to snatch a few stationary pijun shots which I am happy with.

Edited on Nov 18, 2009 at 05:25 AM · View previous versions



Apr 01, 2009 at 05:47 PM
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Took this when I was in Taman Burung, bird rehabilation center in Bali. Again not from a 400mm

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv96/madzazulu/_MG_9850.jpg



Apr 01, 2009 at 06:45 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Well guys, went to do some PIF-ing today with the 400 f/5.6, but just could not get myself in a good vantage position wherever I turned. Fired some 40 shots dutifully, but no keepers.
Changed the lens to 200 f/2.8 prime, but that didn't help any.
As a consolation prize managed to snatch a few stationary pijun shots which I am happy with.



Your pijun's are much prettier than mine



Apr 01, 2009 at 07:03 PM
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maverick666 wrote:
Took this when I was in Taman Burung, bird rehabilation center in Bali. Again not from a 400mm

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv96/madzazulu/_MG_9850.jpg



That is a great image!!



Apr 01, 2009 at 07:04 PM
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Yeah it's too large Noelle ....Now it's too small .....Now it's about right

Edited on Apr 01, 2009 at 08:12 PM · View previous versions



Apr 01, 2009 at 07:10 PM
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Last one...promise I won't post again

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv96/madzazulu/_MG_9899.jpg



Apr 01, 2009 at 08:01 PM
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maverick666 wrote:
Last one...promise I won't post again



Nice shots Maverick, no problem buddy, I don't mind.

Edited on Apr 02, 2009 at 02:46 AM · View previous versions



Apr 01, 2009 at 10:47 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Well guys, went to do some PIF-ing today with the 400 f/5.6, but just could not get myself in a good vantage position wherever I turned. Fired some 40 shots dutifully, but no keepers.
Changed the lens to 200 f/2.8 prime, but that didn't help any.
As a consolation prize managed to snatch a few stationary pijun shots which I am happy with.



Boy Peter you take the best pijun shots ever!



Apr 01, 2009 at 10:47 PM
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wing tong wrote:
+1
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Conrad, you said you shoot both jpg+raw. Do you use the raw or do you post your jpg straight out of the camera? It is always best to capture your shots correctly in the camera but for those you've already taken and want to save, (if you aren't already doing this) try opening the raw file in DPP (free ) and play around in there, specifically with exposure and NR, but other functions are useful too. Sounds like a pain if you have 200+ image to process everytime but you can save a recipe and apply it to
...Show more

I tend to use the jpgs that are balanced enough and resize and post. The ones that are are improperly exposed in either direction I use raw to try to recover it.



Apr 01, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Conrad Tan
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PetKal wrote:
Excellent captures of the tern, Conrad.

Couple of suggestions:
(1) Watch your exposure/processing....those birds need to be whiter.
(2) Since you are doing enlargement crops, the ISO noise shows. I am not sure you really needed hi ISO there......you were shooting at two stops higher than needed. However, those pictures you should scrub with the Neat Image or equivalent NR program.


Thanks Peter, I'll try to keep them birds whiter! As far as the ISO noise, I am trying to find that balance between sharp photos through high shutter speed and annoying noise from increased ISO! I'll watch it though, I've been trying to use the lower ISO but sometimes I miss those opportunities when using low shutter speed.



Apr 01, 2009 at 11:59 PM
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The focusing is fine but I think you should've used flash as fill light to reduce the contrast there conrad. That is one blown bird...


Apr 02, 2009 at 05:03 AM
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