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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Yeah, and everyone thought Canon didn't have anything special up their sleeves. Two unaffordable lenses, a firmware update and an AF recall - hallelujah.


Yes, 2009 looks to be as spectacular a Canon year as the 20th EOS anniversary year....

In all honesty it is time for them to just dump the 1d3's and move on, but I guess that they are afraid to - they don't know whether to start over or just go back the 1d2 generation of AF.



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:04 PM
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p.6 #2 · Mark III-Recall again ?


Well, it proves me correct. But between packing up the 5D for the mirror fix, the 1DMKIII for the whatever fix, I'll be falling back on my 1DMKIIn and 1D and 350D ...

Hey, Canon, while you're at if, any chance of an adapter so I can use the new batteries with my older 1D camera ... I've been very busy lately and the 5D is showing it's photo journalistic limitations .... batteries die rather quickly and if your darn 1DMKIII had worked, I'd have three of them by now and would only need a spare battery.

Well Happy Easter [in advance]

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Mar 03, 2009 at 06:04 PM
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p.6 #3 · Mark III-Recall again ?


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I was told I would be receiving a UPS label for Newport News Virginia, so you are wrong.

And yes they did the sub-mirror fix as well. I guess this is their recall center for the US.

Gene


Mine went out to Irvine 30 minutes ago.



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:06 PM
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p.6 #4 · Mark III-Recall again ?


timbop wrote:
In all honesty it is time for them to just dump the 1d3's and move on, but I guess that they are afraid to - they don't know whether to start over or just go back the 1d2 generation of AF.

I certainly hope not. The 1D3 absolutely destroys the 1D2 (and probably any camera) when it comes to low light focusing. In fact, I've known people who have one camera like the D3 for daylight, and then the 1D3 for low light shooting.



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:07 PM
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p.6 #5 · Mark III-Recall again ?


timbop wrote:
Yes, 2009 looks to be as spectacular a Canon year as the 20th EOS anniversary year....

In all honesty it is time for them to just dump the 1d3's and move on, but I guess that they are afraid to - they don't know whether to start over or just go back the 1d2 generation of AF.


The question is are they going to soldier on with the old EOS 3 45pt system, or finally move to a new one. Ideally they should move on and then the 45pt system (preferably from the 1D II) could then go into a 3D without stepping on 1 series toes. I'm sure they'll have a September/October announcement for a 1D IV so it'd be out well ahead of the winter olympics. Let's hope whatever they do, there's been plenty of field testing this time.



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:09 PM
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p.6 #6 · Mark III-Recall again ?


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be fixed after the error was not fixed by the erroneous sub-mirror error fix. If you can follow that, my hat's off to you.


Sure do, I posted that the previous fix was not THE fix ... at the time. I feel really smug about that, had to report a couple of retaliatory vindictive posters to the admins ~ but I was right.

THANK YOU ADOLF! That's a quote form a movie, it seems to fit here, a school boys shouts that skyward after a Luftwaffe raid demolished his school..



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:10 PM
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I believe the Virginia service center was the one that did the original sub mirror fix on the 1D3s.


hmm, sorry if i am correct

in the past DSLR stuff had almost only been handled by irvine and jamesburg though

i know i saw people dropping off 1dmkiii and 1dsmkiii at jamesburg for the mirror fix though, i know because they bumped them all ahead of me and i didnt get my cam fixed in time for my national geographic trip to tanzania grrrrrrr



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:11 PM
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Bruce Sawle wrote:
Mine went out to Irvine 30 minutes ago.


I just got the label and instructions for Newport News.



Mar 03, 2009 at 06:51 PM
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gbee wrote:
Sure do, I posted that the previous fix was not THE fix ... at the time. I feel really smug about that, had to report a couple of retaliatory vindictive posters to the admins ~ but I was right.

THANK YOU ADOLF! That's a quote form a movie, it seems to fit here, a school boys shouts that skyward after a Luftwaffe raid demolished his school..



Not sure I follow you. Do you want us to bomb your camera?

Canon is in trouble. All their talented engineers have either left the bldg or have been beaten senseless by a management team that's smoking crack. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Canon needs to fire their camera/imaging products management team, immediately.




Mar 03, 2009 at 06:58 PM
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See they are doing the customer a service. Raise the prices and then announce the camera still can't focus properly - brilliant.


C'mon PP, lighten up. You don't own one do you? At least they are addressing issues. People complain they did a piss-poor job to start with, then they are sweeping issues under the rug and ignoring them, then complain that they are fixing an issue that most people probably were not even aware of or affected by. The only legitimate complaint IMO is they did a piss poor job in the first place, and that has already been flogged ad nauseum.

Gene



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:01 PM
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Three trips for servicing and still not right in my view even though Canon said it was fine and I was getting a lot of flak from people on the Internet that ridiculed those who insisted it wasn't fixed. Hopefully my camera will now finally work as advertised after 19 months of iffy focusing.


Mar 03, 2009 at 07:06 PM
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Hi Anders,

I have followed your long saga.
It is supposedly only when manually selecting off center AF points. Will this fix your AF problems? I expect it is worth a shot and hope it does.

Best,
Gene



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:19 PM
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p.6 #13 · Mark III-Recall again ?


GeneO wrote:
No I already scheduled mine - a newer yellow dot. Supposed to get UPS sticker in email in 48 hours. It is going to Newport News - like the sub-mirror fix.

Note that this fix is for issue when using an AF point other than the center that some cameras may experience

There is also a service notice for error 99 mirror problems.

Gene



Both of ours are heading to Canon next day tomorrow (Wednesday)

Chad



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:19 PM
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I called this afternoon and had the shipping label (actually 2 of them for some reason) in my email by the time I got home from work.


Mar 03, 2009 at 07:25 PM
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p.6 #15 · Mark III-Recall again ?


GeneO wrote:
C'mon PP, lighten up. You don't own one do you? At least they are addressing issues. People complain they did a piss-poor job to start with, then they are sweeping issues under the rug and ignoring them, then complain that they are fixing an issue that most people probably were not even aware of or affected by. The only legitimate complaint IMO is they did a piss poor job in the first place, and that has already been flogged ad nauseum.

Gene


Gene you should lighten up a little, it's a tongue-in-cheek response to mike's post.

I'm glad they have openly admitted a fault but it has to make you wonder how many more AF issues they'll find?

I'm more than happy with my 1D II and I'll wait for the 1D IV now. The 1D III probably is a much better camera overall than the 1D II, but I would always have that doubt in my mind when I got OOF shots, was it me, was it the camera and when spending several thousand dollars it's unacceptable to me.



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:27 PM
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p.6 #16 · Mark III-Recall again ?


This is really bad....
i was going to upgrade to 1DsIII when MKIV version comes out...and I'm not sure anymore.



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:29 PM
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p.6 #17 · Mark III-Recall again ?


GeneO wrote:
Hi Anders,

I have followed your long saga.
It is supposedly only when manually selecting off center AF points. Will this fix your AF problems? I expect it is worth a shot and hope it does.

Best,
Gene


I can only hope. I've not considered a difference between focus points, I frequently use off-center points but haven't looked for that connection - likely there's a varying degree of problems with both center and off-center points though. I've just noticed that a lot of shots are slightly off in AI Servo. I'm not going to repeat any testing to see what's what, I'm sick of that, I'll just send the camera in and if they replace some hardware hopefully it will improve all aspects of the AF.



Mar 03, 2009 at 07:29 PM
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p.6 #18 · Mark III-Recall again ?


the biggest problem and difficulty as far as i am concerned as an owner of 2 markIII's over time is that the problems are not consistent and they may appear very real and obvious to one person because of the way they use the camera while to another user the camera is wonderful....i myself have not had problems and love the camera but i acknowledge the problems of others..if this was one problem that manifest itself in the same way with every user it would be much easier to deal with and easier to deem fixed once and for all....if there is a problem that some are having with AF points other than the center point i am glad that canon is still working to make things right..that said,i fully understand the frustration inherent


Mar 03, 2009 at 07:36 PM
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Rant on: I have to admit, I'm thinking of giving Canon 1 more year of use (I know, I say this now.....) and hope that within this year they come out with some knockout products that are reliable and create Industry leading images (Canon is behind Nikon in my book). While I'm loving my lenses, the bodies and flashes are just not going in the direction I'd like. If Canon can get their butts back in line and produce something that doesn't cause problems (AF issues, ETTL2's constant problems, lots of little headaches due to poor quality control, worse image quality than Nikon (I'm sorry, but IMO Canon's low ISO now sucks between the 1 and 5 series, and I like the images from my 5D better than the 5D2 I tested), Canon's severe crippling of their semi-pro 5d that many pros use, etc). I know there's many people happy with Canon's new offerings, I'm just not one of them. I know many pros that feel Canon is causing them problems when used in a professional setting. I'll give Canon semi-kudos for fixing their problems 2 years after the camera has been out, it just shouldn't have happened.....ESPECIALLY from a pro gear standard that are used by professionals. Canon is starting to feel the heat from their poor performance with many more black lenses showing up in front of the national spotlight instead of Canon white. If I wasn't so invested in lenses, and looking to get into a system, Nikon would get my vote at this point. Okay, rant off


Canon is in trouble. All their talented engineers have either left the bldg or have been beaten senseless by a management team that's smoking crack. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Canon needs to fire their camera/imaging products management team, immediately.



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Mar 03, 2009 at 07:49 PM
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p.6 #20 · Mark III-Recall again ?


This is really sad and at least they're doing something about it rather than releasing a new model. Unfortunately I'm pretty much done with Canon. It's funny to think that when I switched over to Canon I did it for the AF. Now it looks like I am going the other direction, for the same reason. The II N and mark III focused okay- it was just difficult having to have a specific setting for a slightly different situation. I had shot a couple of BBall games back in December with a D3 and was very impressed. Finally picked up a D3 and D700 and sold my mark III/IIN last week and the 5d2 and remaining lenses are going up for sale soon.

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