dalek53 wrote:
Exactly. This is why I don't get people excusing the autofocus on the 5Di/ii and saying if you want better trade up to a 1 series. The EOS 3 had fantastic 45 point autofocus (and a wonderful big bright viewfinder to boot) and still cost less than half of the cost of a 5d.
Maybe we'll see that in the mk-iii.
Guy
skibum5 wrote
but recall that a pro film 35mm camera was only about $1000 more than a consumer level one (and it needed not jsut better shutter/mirror but also much faster film pull motor, etc.) and now days the pro bodies are like $2000-$4000 more than the upper mid-range....
so believe us when we say they could put in pro AF module and even a second digic for all that many more hundreds and still be making money on every body sold. They could still make the 1 series with the integrated grip, bit better build and even faster fps, 100% viewfinder, etc.
that said, so far the center point appears to be better than the xxD's though....
never touched a 5D so no even prelimnary clue there....
dave chilvers wrote
The 5d2 is not the replacement for the Mk3`s, how could it be it was launched at 1/3rd the 1 series price. People are just angry because they wanted a pro camera at consumer prices. I`m not a sport or wedding photographer and see only plus signs when ever I use the 5d2 in every way over the older mk1 (people used and raved over the original 5D and still do) so whats changed? If you need the ultimate for all situations then (as good as it can be and want a Canon) then you buy the camera that is aimed at that market and that is the 1 series. There are no free lunches in the world so something has to give a little (although as I`ve said I haven`t seen much given away with the 5d2) and surely the thing at the top of the list must be IQ and the 5D2 has it in bucket loads. For specialist work you need a camera aimed at it.
I pick up the 5d2 most of the time now but there are times when I know I`m gonna need that bit of extra performance/ weather proofing etc in certain areas so grab the mk3. There`s no point buying a VW Golf and complaining that it doesn`t perform in all areas like an Audi TT and if it did we would all be driving VW Golfs wouldn`t we?
(I`m not knocking VW golf`s BTW before anyone flames me) I`ve owned both and like the cameras they are different beasts that show their strengths in different ways ( mainly your bank balance) but both get you where your going.
People on these threads act like they have a gun to their head being forced to purchase products that are not right for them.
BTW from reading many threads around the web it`s starting to look like the early American deliveries are where the most problems are, our deliveries in the UK were a few weeks behind the USA in general from a different factory maybe?
Dave
Yes dalek, but the 3 was a film camera! more like comparing a horse and cart to a car.
At the end of the day you either buy it or you don`t and just carry on using your mk1 till the mk3 or 4 comes out. I`ll also buy the mk3 or 4 and have enjoyment using the mk2 in the mean time.You weren`t going to see all the things you want till the 1dsmk4 hits the shelves.At least you probably won`t have as long to wait for the 5Dmk3 as you did for the 5D2. A very good bit of advice is to grab a 1dsmk2 while they are still around for the same amount of money. a bit of extra weight but problem solved.
Dave