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p.216 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I posted these on dpr a good comparison of the 5d2 and 1d3 the 5d has less noise the 1d files are a little more to my liking straight out of the camera.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&message=30232272



Dec 03, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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p.216 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


That's good news indeed. I presume this is for the body only with regular shipping? I ordered mine on September 17 (late afternoon) and have not received any notice at all. If you received your shipment notice from them there is some hope for the rest of us who ordered from them!

WilliamG wrote:
FYI, my Amazon order from September 17 officially left Amazon today and I'll have it tomorrow. Those of you who ordered from Amazon about then *should* be receiving your shipping confirmation anytime now. At least that's if the world is a *fair* place.




Dec 03, 2008 at 10:19 PM
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p.216 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I was doing some ISO testing with my 5D2 just to get familiar with the new camera and I thought I would post the file sizes at different ISO speeds for anyone that might be interested. All these results are at the 21.1 mp setting:

ISO 50 - RAW - 23.6 MB Large Fine Jpeg - 4.30 MB

ISO 100 - RAW - 22.4 MB Large Fine Jpeg - 4.18 MB

ISO 200 - RAW - 22.9 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 4.8 MB

ISO 400 - RAW - 23.8 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 5.58 MB

ISO 800 - RAW - 24.9 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 5.97 MB

ISO 1600 - RAW - 26.1 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 5.84 MB

ISO 3200 - RAW - 27.7 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 5.75 MB

ISO 6400 - RAW - 30.2 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 7.44 MB

ISO 12800 - RAW - 33.2 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 9.32 MB

ISO 25600 - RAW - 37.4 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 12.0 MB




Edited on Dec 03, 2008 at 10:23 PM · View previous versions



Dec 03, 2008 at 10:23 PM
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p.216 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Amazon began shipping out on the 2nd I believe, and so far I have ONLY seen people state that their "kits" have been shipped. Nothing on body only (which is what I ordered)


Dec 03, 2008 at 10:23 PM
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p.216 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Ducati or not, it's not as fast as the Lexar Pro UDMA which is 300x or 45MB per second. And you can get an 8GB card for $72 after a $40 rebate.

Wallybud wrote:
Dude! it's a Ducati?! I mean come on




Dec 03, 2008 at 10:23 PM
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p.216 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


What about those of us that are ordering much more recently?

I'm trying to figure out who I should put my order in with that a.) doesn't charge taxes and b.) might ship out soon




Dec 03, 2008 at 10:41 PM
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p.216 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
Ducati or not, it's not as fast as the Lexar Pro UDMA which is 300x or 45MB per second. And you can get an 8GB card for $72 after a $40 rebate.






Lexar Professional 300X 16GB
CF I 16GB 22.246MB/sec 31.547MB/sec


SanDisk Extreme Ducati 8GB
CF I 8GB 24.639MB/sec 33.732MB/sec



Dec 03, 2008 at 10:43 PM
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p.216 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Edgar Maguyon wrote:
Nice! Good to know they are sending them out.

What day did you pre-order?

9-17 first thing in the am....



Dec 03, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.216 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


-rce- wrote:
would anyone like to elaborate on how and why the difference in performance between the following two cards?

SanDisk Extreme Ducati 8GB
Actual Capacity: 7816MB
Protocols: PIO, UDMA
Internal Identifier: SanDisk-SDP-7611
External Identifier: BI070606696B
CF I 8GB 24.639MB/sec 33.732MB/sec

SanDisk Extreme IV 8GB
Actual Capacity: 7816MB
Protocols: PIO, UDMA
Internal Identifier: SanDisk-SDP-7611
External Identifier: ---
CF I 8GB 22.531MB/sec 30.544MB/sec

is it because the Ducati cards have a fancier paint job?


They cost more, therefore, they must be better...



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:02 AM
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p.216 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Waaaaa... 5D comes tomorrow. Not sure I'll sleep well tonight. Mad excited.


Dec 04, 2008 at 12:20 AM
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p.216 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Oooh a question. Is the shutter button on the 5DII squishy like the 5D, or clicky like the 40D/50D?

I know I know. I can wait till tomorrow to find out, but why wait?



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:21 AM
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p.216 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Is this the transfer rate with 5D2 or som other UDMA-enabled camera? I think Sandisk deliberately 'underclocked' the IV to make more money. Anyone care to hack there UDMA CF card and speed them up?
-rce- wrote:
would anyone like to elaborate on how and why the difference in performance between the following two cards?

SanDisk Extreme Ducati 8GB
Actual Capacity: 7816MB
Protocols: PIO, UDMA
Internal Identifier: SanDisk-SDP-7611
External Identifier: BI070606696B
CF I 8GB 24.639MB/sec 33.732MB/sec

SanDisk Extreme IV 8GB
Actual Capacity: 7816MB
Protocols: PIO, UDMA
Internal Identifier: SanDisk-SDP-7611
External Identifier: ---
CF I 8GB 22.531MB/sec 30.544MB/sec

is it because the Ducati cards have a fancier paint job?




Dec 04, 2008 at 12:22 AM
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p.216 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


WilliamG wrote:
Oooh a question. Is the shutter button on the 5DII squishy like the 5D, or clicky like the 40D/50D?

I know I know. I can wait till tomorrow to find out, but why wait?


I don't know about the button, but the sound of the shutter is similar to the old 5D's. I like the crisp sound of the 40D shutter better... it feels faster. The 5D2's shutter sound is laggy like the old 5D's... I don't know if you guys know what I mean.



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:29 AM
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p.216 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


EOS20 wrote:
I was doing some ISO testing with my 5D2 just to get familiar with the new camera and I thought I would post the file sizes at different ISO speeds for anyone that might be interested. All these results are at the 21.1 mp setting:

ISO 50 - RAW - 23.6 MB Large Fine Jpeg - 4.30 MB

ISO 100 - RAW - 22.4 MB Large Fine Jpeg - 4.18 MB

ISO 200 - RAW - 22.9 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 4.8 MB

ISO 400 - RAW - 23.8 MB - Large Fine Jpeg - 5.58 MB

ISO 800 -
...Show more

Wow! Is that an eye-opener. 12 MB jpegs. Jeez. I think I'll be living under ISO 6400 and maybe not-so-fine jpegs



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:44 AM
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p.216 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


zore wrote:
Lexar Professional 300X 16GB
CF I 16GB 22.246MB/sec 31.547MB/sec

SanDisk Extreme Ducati 8GB
CF I 8GB 24.639MB/sec 33.732MB/sec


Where did you get that from? Says here that the speed is 45MB per second:

http://lexar.com/digfilm/cf_udma.html



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:51 AM
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p.216 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Photomatt wrote:
Yo Mel, I'll buy all your extreme III's for a buck!

When a camera's spec says a burst rate of 13 images, at 3.9 shots per second, thats all based on internal camera buffers and has nothing to do with the CF card. Rob Galbraith's test only timed the amount of time to write to the card, which had nothing to do with the advertised total number of images in a burst, the frame rate or the cameras ability to write those images to internal memory.

So yeah, if you wanted to shoot 200 raw images at 10 frames per second, you'll
...Show more

Yes, it does have to do with the card. The buffer fills up after a few frames. After that, it's the transfer rate to the card.

We tried an Extreme III card on a 50D, and after about 8 frames, the camera burped, and slowed considerably.


If all you want to do is to shoot a bracket of three frames, it's fine.



Dec 04, 2008 at 01:22 AM
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p.216 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
Ducati or not, it's not as fast as the Lexar Pro UDMA which is 300x or 45MB per second. And you can get an 8GB card for $72 after a $40 rebate.




Check the tests on Robs site that I posted the link to. The 50D is Canon's closest camera to the 5D mkII in transfer rates.

The Ducati is the fastest.



Dec 04, 2008 at 01:26 AM
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p.216 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Paolo Dolina wrote:
Is this the transfer rate with 5D2 or som other UDMA-enabled camera? I think Sandisk deliberately 'underclocked' the IV to make more money. Anyone care to hack there UDMA CF card and speed them up?




The 50D, Which has the same UDMA compatibility, and the same Digix IV.

Uh, you don't underclock a flash card.

The Ducati is a newer card by almost a year. Memory does get faster over time. Before too long, we will see faster cards.



Dec 04, 2008 at 01:29 AM
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p.216 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
Where did you get that from? Says here that the speed is 45MB per second:

http://lexar.com/digfilm/cf_udma.html



They are from actual tests. The 45MB/s will be almost seen, about 43MB/s, if you buy the SanDisk, or Lexar Firewire 800 readers (with a USB 2 reader, the speed will be about 28MB/s). But the cameras are not as good with transfer rates as are the readers.



Dec 04, 2008 at 01:33 AM
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p.216 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


EDIT: Just created a separate thread concerning video initial observations.

Edited on Dec 04, 2008 at 03:40 AM · View previous versions



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