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Ralph Conway wrote:
I think you donīt like to hear it, james. But I still care about IQ only.
I have to use my cameras for work. I care about both. In this case, however, you'll get what you want, so don't worry. The 5d2 will have every amateur feature possible and probably great IQ, so you'll be happy as a clam in another week or two. 
If the 5d2 would only offer 15MP and nativ ISO 3200 at the actual 5Ds 800 IQ and change nothing else, it still would be my choise against all other now existing cameras. If it offers me more resolution, affordable nativ ISO 6400 and a shutter lifetime of 200.000 cycles it will be my camera for the next 3-5 years, I guess. I can live with an external BG, even I would prefere an integrated one. I can live with the actual AF really good because its great. I can live without the features and whatever else that a camera makes "pro" level to you. Like thousends of "pros" already using a "sucking" 5D (single or next to their 1Ds) to make their earning are doing it, too. ...Show more →
I think you made your point, and if I counted correctly, you've made 2,713 times in this thread. Or did I miss a few. 
Yes, it's clear. You want an amateur level camera, I want a small sized professional level camera. You win. You will have a 50d with FF sensor in two weeks.
You are right in one thing: looking back in a few years, the IQ will be the only thing for me that still matters. What you call a "sucky body" was and still is an exellent tool at an affordable price to me. Maybe my "short term memory lapses" give me the pleasure, you seem not be able to feel. I am sad about that for you.
Don't be sad. just understand that I'm not playing games with this stuff.Recognize that there are others out there. like me, that use these cameras as tools to get paid, and the features they provide either make our lives easier or more difficult. I have never questioned, not once, the 5ds IQ, but I'll say again the the AF and the 3 FPS is a joke. Great for a wedding where the bride is standing their with a fake smile plastered on her weary face, but for anything more challenging, it falls short. It just can't keep up and the 3 FPS can't help.
I want a small sized FF, professional level camera, with no excuses. That's not to be had by any mfg right now, simply because they don't want to provide it. I have no hope at the 1 series level so 5d was my only option.. I can't read the future so I don't know exactly what it will be like, but after all the rumors it sounds like a real snoozer.
Now Canon could surprise us all, but I really think the next wave is PMA, not PK...
But concerning me my "sucking" Canon tools helped me to become a photographer. By doing pictures, that my customers buy. Not by holding a "pro" body in my hands, I can not purchase.
Lets wait another few days. I am really sure, Canon will give me what I want and need. Maybe itīs good enough for you, too. I would wish you.
Thanks Ralph, but don't get defensive about a camera. It's a hammer. I've purchased 4 5d bodies over the years, but to tell you the truth, the rumored replacement is probably not good enough..
I'm only going by rumors and the 50d, which was a real let down for me. Some love it. Some people like George Bush too.
The 1Ds3 (though the IQ is good) is a joke at $8k and should have a $5k retail price. Even if I can "write it off", it comes out of my pocket. If I can do the job for $3k, I'm not going to throw away $5k just to brag about owning an expensive (over priced) camera.. My job is to provide the best images I can for the needs of my clients first, and then my personal work. I just hope that the tools can be shared, and that's why I had my hopes up that Canon would do right by us all...
I hope it's more than either one of us expect. If so, you'll win big time and I'll be satisfied.
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