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edwardkaraa wroteGary, there’s a reason why the wrapper is totally sealed. Condensation and humidity are the enemies of film. I would think 120 film with its paper backing is very sensitive to humidity. I personally always freeze my film in zip locked plastic bags for extra security. I would certainly not discard the remaining film, but probably wouldn’t shoot anything too important with it. Please keep in mind that it could be a lab mistake too. Normally affected film should come out darker and grainier.
Or - god forbid, I made a metering mistake?!? The lab is super trustworthy but could be a factor. It was a very white scene though. A lot of snow all around and a white fog in the air. Probably a bit of a challenge for slide film. Thanks for the info! My Portra160 shots of the same turned out good though....
How does the film numbering and coding look like? If it looks normal, it’s your mistake. If it looks bleached like the photos, then it’s either the film or the lab. Easy to determine if you take a close look.
https://www.olympus-lifescience.com/en/microscope-resource/primer/photomicrography/colornegprocerrors/
Film numbering/lettering looks perfect. Does this work for all film types? Thanks for the link!
So it’s your metering, Gary

Yes but for reversal film, developer issues would be reversed. Under development will cause the film to be too thin for negatives and too thick for slides.
Haha - appreciate the info Edward. I will have to look at some other negs to compare. I always thought (could be wrong) that the film lettering I have seen was always good regardless of severe overexposure or underexposure. I remember metering carefully off of a grey-ish colored window to try and get an accurate reading. I didn't want the bright snow and sky to mess with things. I should have bracketed another exposure I guess. Oh well, the joys of film!


Well, not to make things even more complicated, but it could also be your camera shutter that is slower than the actual speed you set.

As a rule of thumb, slide film has 2 1/3 stops latitude above middle grey and 2 2/3 under. I would take a spot reading off the snow and overexpose by no more than 1 1/2 stops in order to preserve detail.
Feb 06, 2018 at 10:23 AM
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Gary Clennan wroteDo you guys know if keeping the 120 film wrapper in place affects long term (freezer) storage? I recently used some Provia 100F which was expired and out of the wrapper but apparently always freezer stored. The results were not very good. Most of the film was really light and resulting images were way overexposed. If the film is out of the wrapper, is it best just to scrap it? Just wanted some input before I try a few more rolls (E6 as well) that I have. Thanks.
Gary, there’s a reason why the wrapper is totally sealed. Condensation and humidity are the enemies of film. I would think 120 film with its paper backing is very sensitive to humidity. I personally always freeze my film in zip locked plastic bags for extra security. I would certainly not discard the remaining film, but probably wouldn’t shoot anything too important with it. Please keep in mind that it could be a lab mistake too. Normally affected film should come out darker and grainier.



The only time I've had serious issues with expired 120 film is if it has had the wrapper removed. The paper absorbs moisture etc.
I wouldn't throw it away though, just use it for 'experimental/artistic' purposes.
Feb 06, 2018 at 12:23 PM
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Gary Clennan wroteOr - god forbid, I made a metering mistake?!? The lab is super trustworthy but could be a factor. It was a very white scene though. A lot of snow all around and a white fog in the air. Probably a bit of a challenge for slide film. Thanks for the info! My Portra160 shots of the same turned out good though....
How does the film numbering and coding look like? If it looks normal, it’s your mistake. If it looks bleached like the photos, then it’s either the film or the lab. Easy to determine if you take a close look.
https://www.olympus-lifescience.com/en/microscope-resource/primer/photomicrography/colornegprocerrors/
Film numbering/lettering looks perfect. Does this work for all film types? Thanks for the link!
So it’s your metering, Gary

Yes but for reversal film, developer issues would be reversed. Under development will cause the film to be too thin for negatives and too thick for slides.
Haha - appreciate the info Edward. I will have to look at some other negs to compare. I always thought (could be wrong) that the film lettering I have seen was always good regardless of severe overexposure or underexposure. I remember metering carefully off of a grey-ish colored window to try and get an accurate reading. I didn't want the bright snow and sky to mess with things. I should have bracketed another exposure I guess. Oh well, the joys of film!
Well, not to make things even more complicated, but it could also be your camera shutter that is slower than the actual speed you set.

As a rule of thumb, slide film has 2 1/3 stops latitude above middle grey and 2 2/3 under. I would take a spot reading off the snow and overexpose by no more than 1 1/2 stops in order to preserve detail.


My camera shutter did in fact sound slow. It was super cold that morning....
Feb 06, 2018 at 07:33 PM
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Gary Clennan wroteDo you guys know if keeping the 120 film wrapper in place affects long term (freezer) storage? I recently used some Provia 100F which was expired and out of the wrapper but apparently always freezer stored. The results were not very good. Most of the film was really light and resulting images were way overexposed. If the film is out of the wrapper, is it best just to scrap it? Just wanted some input before I try a few more rolls (E6 as well) that I have. Thanks.
Gary, there’s a reason why the wrapper is totally sealed. Condensation and humidity are the enemies of film. I would think 120 film with its paper backing is very sensitive to humidity. I personally always freeze my film in zip locked plastic bags for extra security. I would certainly not discard the remaining film, but probably wouldn’t shoot anything too important with it. Please keep in mind that it could be a lab mistake too. Normally affected film should come out darker and grainier.
The only time I've had serious issues with expired 120 film is if it has had the wrapper removed. The paper absorbs moisture etc.
I wouldn't throw it away though, just use it for 'experimental/artistic' purposes.


I hear ya. It is very hard for me to throw away 220 film...
Feb 06, 2018 at 07:34 PM
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Canon A1, vivitar 28/2.5 w/ yellow filter, delta 100, d76 1:1, pakon scan

below the falls






above the falls






source of the falls (you can see the top of the cave opening behind the boulder)







and another falls visited that day













Feb 08, 2018 at 08:35 PM
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Leica M5, canon serenar 50/1.8 w/ light yellow filter, delta 100, d76 1:1, pakon scan

















Feb 09, 2018 at 07:54 PM
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Fujifilm TX-1, 30mm f/5.6 lens, TMAX400.

Feb 10, 2018 at 08:44 AM
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Very nice, Tom! How long you had that tx1? I also see you shooting your favorite film, in 35mm (as opposed to 120 with all the backing paper problems )
Feb 10, 2018 at 10:56 AM
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Very nice, Tom! How long you had that tx1? I also see you shooting your favorite film, in 35mm (as opposed to 120 with all the backing paper problems )


Thanks. I've had the TX-1 for a couple of months (bought it from FM user Desmolicious!), and recently completed the lens collection by adding on the 30mm f/5.6 lens. I've got all three lenses for this camera, 30mm, 45mm, and 90mm. It's an amazing camera, with incredibly sharp lenses. While it shoots 35mm film, it's really a medium format camera; just clipped from the top.

She's a beauty!

Feb 10, 2018 at 11:01 AM
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Very nice! I should have picked one up in years past when they were cheaper. Prices are going up faster than the stock market. That is a fine kit and will serve you well for years to come.
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Fujifilm TX-1, 45mm f/4.0 lens, Neopan Acros film.



Feb 10, 2018 at 05:47 PM
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Fuji TX-1, 45mm f/4, AgfaPhoto Vista 200.

Feb 11, 2018 at 04:55 AM
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U of M Student Union, Fujitilm TX-1, 45mm f/4 lens, Fujifilm Natura 1600

Feb 11, 2018 at 11:43 AM
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Same set up as the last shot, except the film is Acros 100.

Feb 11, 2018 at 05:12 PM
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same roll of Velvia as my last few uploads. Was in my camera for 4 years haha. Taken right off the Burr Trail Road. If you are ever here in Utah, PLEASE PLEASE drive this road. It is paved even. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF down here!




Feb 11, 2018 at 09:56 PM
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Jon Buffington wroteVery nice, Tom! How long you had that tx1? I also see you shooting your favorite film, in 35mm (as opposed to 120 with all the backing paper problems )
Thanks. I've had the TX-1 for a couple of months (bought it from FM user Desmolicious!), and recently completed the lens collection by adding on the 30mm f/5.6 lens. I've got all three lenses for this camera, 30mm, 45mm, and 90mm. It's an amazing camera, with incredibly sharp lenses. While it shoots 35mm film, it's really a medium format camera; just clipped from the top.

She's a beauty!

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/25059418547_55ca637c26_c.jpg


Sweet camera! I hear nothing but good things about that seller...

Feb 12, 2018 at 06:52 PM
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Jon Buffington wroteVery nice, Tom! How long you had that tx1? I also see you shooting your favorite film, in 35mm (as opposed to 120 with all the backing paper problems )
Thanks. I've had the TX-1 for a couple of months (bought it from FM user Desmolicious!), and recently completed the lens collection by adding on the 30mm f/5.6 lens. I've got all three lenses for this camera, 30mm, 45mm, and 90mm. It's an amazing camera, with incredibly sharp lenses. While it shoots 35mm film, it's really a medium format camera; just clipped from the top.

She's a beauty!

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/25059418547_55ca637c26_c.jpg
Sweet camera! I hear nothing but good things about that seller...



Actually, he's horrible. He sold me a VERY expensive camera, and I liked it so much I had to buy the 30mm lens, which cost more than the camera itself!!

Feb 13, 2018 at 02:24 AM
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Fuji TX-1, 45mm f/4 lens, Neopan Acros.

Feb 13, 2018 at 02:28 AM
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rattymouse wrote:
Desmolicious wrote
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Jon Buffington wroteVery nice, Tom! How long you had that tx1? I also see you shooting your favorite film, in 35mm (as opposed to 120 with all the backing paper problems )
Thanks. I've had the TX-1 for a couple of months (bought it from FM user Desmolicious!), and recently completed the lens collection by adding on the 30mm f/5.6 lens. I've got all three lenses for this camera, 30mm, 45mm, and 90mm. It's an amazing camera, with incredibly sharp lenses. While it shoots 35mm film, it's really a medium format camera; just clipped from the top.

She's a beauty!

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/25059418547_55ca637c26_c.jpg
Sweet camera! I hear nothing but good things about that seller...
Actually, he's horrible. He sold me a VERY expensive camera, and I liked it so much I had to buy the 30mm lens, which cost more than the camera itself!!



Feb 13, 2018 at 02:56 AM
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Dustin Gent wrote:
same roll of Velvia as my last few uploads. Was in my camera for 4 years haha. Taken right off the Burr Trail Road. If you are ever here in Utah, PLEASE PLEASE drive this road. It is paved even. SO MUCH GOOD STUFF down here!


Rich, gorgeous color, Dustin.

Feb 13, 2018 at 11:13 AM


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