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Patrick, I love the first one. How do you get in contact with these girls? They ask you to shoot them or do you advertise somewhere or what?

The first shot on this page was Zeiss Ikon with the Leica 35/2 ASPH on Velvia and the next two are Provia 100F with my FE2 and I think the Nikkor-S 5.8cm f/1.4. Thanks!


Thanks Nate!

I "meet" these people through a site called modelmayhem.com I enjoy shooting models for fun, and so we will setup a shoot, for my enjoyment/portfolio development and for the model's benefit also, sometimes calld TFP (trade fro prints). I've had great luck with the site and have only had a handful of people flake on me (although its been more recently).

I have gotten to the point that I am "good enough" (by no means am I good, just better than a lot of people on there) that I can pick and choose which models I want to work with since I have an "established" portfolio. Works out well for me

Anyway, if you have any other questions about it, let me know.

My profile is here: http://www.modelmayhem.com/PatrickTrautfield

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Jan 08, 2010 at 10:46 AM
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Arista EDU 100 8x10, in rodinal 1:50 for 10 minutes. Chamonix 8x10 camera, and a huge chunk of glass hanging off the front of the camera

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/biglens_01.jpg


Daniel, I have been thinking about this setup for some time, and think I want to try to do something like that, if a bit different. The trouble is that I know very little about LF and wouldn't really know where to start. My budget will be... constrained, but I am willing to stretch a little beyond rock-bottom to get better quality.

As far as the camera goes, I am not crazy about buying from China, with their political system and all (I am not anti-communist, but I *am* anti-invading other countries and keeping them, as well as anti-[copyright/trademark/etc]-breaking), but I understand that the Chamonix 4x5 is a special camera with some pretty decent movements for a field camera.

Could you discuss these issues a little?

Here is a film shot, to keep on topic Contax 645, Contax 35mm f/3.5, Adox CHS 25, Rodinal, Epson V750:







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Jan 11, 2010 at 06:40 PM
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Superia 400 and W-Nikkor 2.8cm f/3.5 on my SP:








Jan 11, 2010 at 07:52 PM
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Daniel, I have been thinking about this setup for some time, and think I want to try to do something like that, if a bit different. The trouble is that I know very little about LF and wouldn't really know where to start. My budget will be... constrained, but I am willing to stretch a little beyond rock-bottom to get better quality.

As far as the camera goes, I am not crazy about buying from China, with their political system and all (I am not anti-communist, but I *am* anti-invading other countries and keeping them, as well as anti-[copyright/trademark/etc]-breaking), but I
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Well, if you are wanting to use huge lenses like the one I've posted, and you don't need any (or much) movements, you could build your own camera for pretty cheap, just grab a back and film holder off of an old camear that is maybe out of commission (with bad bellows or something). That's what I'm going to be doing for this big lens, building a camera to hold it more securly. Not sure if that would be fun as a first LF camera or not. It could be an over-glorified box camera that slides in and out for focusing.

If you just want a regular large format camera to use more reasonably size/weight lenses, you don't need a new one like a chamonix. You could buy a used camera. if you want an American brand, old Deardorff's are widly known as a good camera (though for a real nice one you may end up droping some good change for it). Wista/ZoneVI cameras are also pretty good, and can probably find (at least 4x5 anyway) for pretty decent prices.

Tachihara and Shen-hao are good "starter" cameras, if you don't have issues with their origins. I say "starter" because they are perfectly good cameras, but are reasonably priced and make good cameras to learn on, and are still produced new if you want a new one (so you know there's nothing wrong with the camera).

If you want a monorail/studio camera, a pretty good (and really inexpensive) way to go is with a Cambo monorail. You can find 4x5 cambo kits for only a few hundred dollars. I've got one that I keep for the times that I want a monorail, it was my first 4x5 and was a very good starter camera, especially for the price. Alot of movements, plentiful and easy to find, and sturdy enough to handle a decent amount of abuse (accept for the ground glass )

I wouldn't suggest 8x10 as your first large format, it's another notch or two more difficult to get used to, and all around more expensive too. 4x5 is good to start with. From there you could rent an 8x10 to try it out, or borrow one just to see if you are willing to tollerate everything being much larger, heavier, and more expensive to shoot.



Jan 11, 2010 at 09:09 PM
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I LOVE that first shot Nate...


Jan 11, 2010 at 09:57 PM
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I LOVE that first shot Nate...


+1!



Jan 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM
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Thanks guys!


Jan 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM
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Well, if you are wanting to use huge lenses like the one I've posted, and you don't need any (or much) movements, you could build your own camera for pretty cheap, just grab a back and film holder off of an old camear that is maybe out of commission (with bad bellows or something). That's what I'm going to be doing for this big lens, building a camera to hold it more securly. Not sure if that would be fun as a first LF camera or not. It could be an over-glorified box camera that slides in and out
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I do want to try that, but that isn't my primary goal, so I would start with a real 4x5. I agree that 8x10 is too large for a first LF camera, and maybe too large for what I want to do with it anyway.

If you just want a regular large format camera to use more reasonably size/weight lenses, you don't need a new one like a chamonix. You could buy a used camera. if you want an American brand, old Deardorff's are widly known as a good camera (though for a real nice one you may end up droping some good change for it). Wista/ZoneVI cameras are also pretty good, and can probably find (at least 4x5 anyway) for pretty decent prices.

Tachihara and Shen-hao are good "starter" cameras, if you don't have issues with their origins. I say "starter" because they are perfectly
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The Shen-Hao is also Chinese, so I could just buy the Chamonix then. The Tachihara also caught my eye (and is Japanese, which is fine), but I was under the impression that it had less movements than the Chamonix? I prefer avoiding Chinese but not at the cost of reduced functionality. I do want a field camera though, not a studio camera, since I have no lights of any kind, and anyway, I want to walk around with it and a tripod.

I did once upon a time have a Speedgraphic, and I might even get it back one day (gave it to my cousin, a pro photographer, but I think he doesn't use it), but wanted to make the next step. I already develop my own MF film, and have an Epson V750, so really, I just need a field camera and a lens or two.

Another shot, to keep on topic. Contax 645, Contax 35mm f/3.5, Adox CHS 25, Rodinal, Epson V750.








Jan 12, 2010 at 06:30 AM
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Jan 12, 2010 at 07:29 AM
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nice images lately TWoK!


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Thanks, NCPS has be doing a great job with the developing and scanning. I've hardly shot digital in the last month. I am leaving for a month in Thailand and Cambodia Saturday and I'll only be bringing film.


Jan 12, 2010 at 07:37 AM
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carstenw wrote:
I do want to try that, but that isn't my primary goal, so I would start with a real 4x5. I agree that 8x10 is too large for a first LF camera, and maybe too large for what I want to do with it anyway.

The Shen-Hao is also Chinese, so I could just buy the Chamonix then. The Tachihara also caught my eye (and is Japanese, which is fine), but I was under the impression that it had less movements than the Chamonix? I prefer avoiding Chinese but not at the cost of reduced functionality. I do want a field
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What type of movements do you think you'll need? The two photographs you've posted so far (very flat, front-on photographs of doors) would not benefit from any movements I think, accept possibly a little front rise. In awkward positions maybe some shift, but usually a door you can get positioned straight on A speedgraphic doesn't offer much movement at all, best case scenario, they only offer front movement, and limited at that. Some of them don't even offer much front movements.

My first folding field camera was a Wista ZoneVI camera, it offered enough movement for most "normal" cases. If I remember correctly, it had full front movement (tilt, shifft, rise and fall), and shift & tilt in the rear. Not extreme amounts of movement that is offered by some other cameras, but you don't really need extreme amounts of movement for most types of photographs, sometimes just a few MM or a few degrees is plenty to get the focusing where you want. (accept for front rise, sometimes an inch or two is nice to correct for converging lines)

Tachihara would offer decent movements as well, it's a very similar design to a Wista/Zone camera.



Jan 12, 2010 at 11:43 AM
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The obvious movements that I could imagine using in the kind of photography I am currently doing are rise, shift, and a little front tilt, to get the ground sharp going backwards. However, I would do some more experimentation with the setup, mostly as a learning experience, but also to expand my horizons, so the more the better in that sense. I might even want to try stitching, although that is just to try it.

How do the Tachihara and Chamonix compare w.r.t. movements?



Jan 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM
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The obvious movements that I could imagine using in the kind of photography I am currently doing are rise, shift, and a little front tilt, to get the ground sharp going backwards. However, I would do some more experimentation with the setup, mostly as a learning experience, but also to expand my horizons, so the more the better in that sense. I might even want to try stitching, although that is just to try it.

How do the Tachihara and Chamonix compare w.r.t. movements?


I've not used a Tachihara 4x5 (only the 8x10) but my guess is that the Chamonix will be able to handle larger amounts of movements, as well as additional movements on the back of the camera. However, the back of the camera is a very different design from the Tachihara, some like it, some don't. I think you would be fine with a Tachi, Wista, or any other 4x5's of similar design. Or, if you want even cheaper (and more movements) pick up a Cambo monorail, you'll have more movements (particularly on the rear standard, which is where most folding cameras are lacking movement), and you'll be in it for less money, incase you decide you don't enjoy it :-)



Jan 12, 2010 at 01:55 PM
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The Cambo is really neat, I looked into it after seeing your equipment list, but it doesn't look like it folds down to 10x12x5" or whatever the Chamonix folds down to I will look into the Tachihara and see if I can find a nice deal on one in great condition.

I will return with lens questions one day



Jan 12, 2010 at 02:24 PM
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Couple shots with my trusty little Olympus XA



Jan 12, 2010 at 03:39 PM
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carstenw wrote:
The Cambo is really neat, I looked into it after seeing your equipment list, but it doesn't look like it folds down to 10x12x5" or whatever the Chamonix folds down to I will look into the Tachihara and see if I can find a nice deal on one in great condition.

I will return with lens questions one day


You are correct, the cambo (or most any monorail camera for that matter) is not as compact as a folding field camera. However, you can more than likely find one for 1/2 the price (or less) of a decent used folding field camera, and you'll get more movements. Makes a nice camera to learn on, but (as you can imagine) it's not as easy to tote around as something that folds up nice and small.

One thing that I did really like about the Wista Zone camera that I had, was that you could keep a lens mounted to the camera while it was folded up. I don't think many folding cameras can do this, and I enjoyed that feature particularly when I didn't have alot of extra space to put things, having the lens folded up in the camera was great



Jan 12, 2010 at 04:38 PM
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I read more about the Wista and Tachihara and the Chamonix does really seem to have something special, a few really nice touches... Hmm...

Can you recommend a good but not too pricy 90mm lens? I am thinking of starting with a 90/210 set, and possibly adding a 150 later on. The Schneiders look good to me in general.



Jan 12, 2010 at 05:02 PM
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Some more superia 400 in the Nikon SP with the 5cm f/1.1:



Jan 12, 2010 at 06:26 PM
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Really, really nice photos guys!

Here's one from Iceland this past summer. Not a recent photo, but a recent scan. :-)

Click the image to see it larger (1200px).




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