Jon Buffington wrote:
... Finished it out, developed it, relived some great memories.
That's one of the things I enjoy most about shooting film. My digital images are mostly uploaded the same day I take them and either deleted or saved and perhaps never looked at again.
My film images, on the other hand, are often processed over 6 months after they are taken and I get a completely different reaction when I see them, its somehow much more satisfying.
buggz2k wrote:
Very nice, wished they still made this film, really bums me out, just as I am starting to get into film more, sigh...
Tell me about it. It's a fscking tragedy that Fujifilm stopped making Astia. That and Reala. Such a beautiful film. I have 20 rolls of Astia left, 15 in 220 size. This film simply never disappoints.
rattymouse,
I also have a fondness for Astia.
Now my new habit of bracketing it may be a future limitation
I still see it show up on Ebay in 4x5.
I would think there still some left in 120 to be found
toshiro wrote:
A very expensive dream, specially when you add film and developing costs to the equation lol
Film is dirt cheap compared to all that hardware. Use Kodak HC-110 and you end up paying $0.40 to develop a roll of film. It doesn't get much cheaper than that.
rattymouse wrote:
Film is dirt cheap compared to all that hardware. Use Kodak HC-110 and you end up paying $0.40 to develop a roll of film. It doesn't get much cheaper than that.
The expense of film is not the actual $ cost, but the time needed to develop and scan the film. Many people have more $ than time these days.
I shoot medium and large format film and it definitely results in much more investment of my time than shooting digital. Now I love the outcome I get from film and the option to get a tradition darkroom print made, but I could do without the drudgery of developing and scanning.
chez wrote:
The expense of film is not the actual $ cost, but the time needed to develop and scan the film. Many people have more $ than time these days.
I shoot medium and large format film and it definitely results in much more investment of my time than shooting digital. Now I love the outcome I get from film and the option to get a tradition darkroom print made, but I could do without the drudgery of developing and scanning.
Photography is my *hobby*, not my job. I do photography because I love doing it. It is not drudgery. Photography gives me a wonderfully "active" activity to do, to consume my time. I *want* photography to consume my time. I have an international job which can be stressful, as well as two kids to raise. Photography is a *wonderful* way to relax from this.
In just one year I've developed over 200 rolls of film. I did two last night. They were test rolls, not images of anything interesting. Still, after souping over 200 rolls of film, I *still* LOVE it when the tank is opened up and the reels come out. It is THE most magical part of photography I can imagine. Just wonderful.
You get ONE chance to develop film right. There are no re-dos. I enjoy the challenge.
No drudgery at all. In fact, I can knock out two rolls of film in well under 1 hour. From sealed rolls to hanging in my bathroom, maybe 40 mins.
One day I'll get into printing. I don't want to buy the equipment for that while living overseas.
rattymouse wrote:
Photography is my *hobby*, not my job. I do photography because I love doing it. It is not drudgery. Photography gives me a wonderfully "active" activity to do, to consume my time. I *want* photography to consume my time. I have an international job which can be stressful, as well as two kids to raise. Photography is a *wonderful* way to relax from this.
In just one year I've developed over 200 rolls of film. I did two last night. They were test rolls, not images of anything interesting. Still, after souping over 200 rolls of film, I *still* LOVE it when the tank is opened up and the reels come out. It is THE most magical part of photography I can imagine. Just wonderful.
You get ONE chance to develop film right. There are no re-dos. I enjoy the challenge.
No drudgery at all. In fact, I can knock out two rolls of film in well under 1 hour. From sealed rolls to hanging in my bathroom, maybe 40 mins.
One day I'll get into printing. I don't want to buy the equipment for that while living overseas.
I've done my share of processing film. Once the thrill is gone...it becomes drudgery, for me. The scanning part just adds to that drudgery. Once I have a digital image, my creative passion awakes...but all steps leading to a digital image is drudgery. My view would be different if I did prints in a darkroom, but I don't.
I'd send out the film to be developed and scanned, but the cost is too much and the quality is lacking. I put up with this drudgery because I love the look of b&w medium and large format film.
Photography is mainly a hobby for me even though I do make money from it. I find developing and scanning lacks creative vision for me whereas processing, printing and framing is where my vision comes alive. I have a limited amount of time I can spend on my hobby and I'd rather not spend it smelling chemicals or watching a scanner slowly process my negative...that does not stimulate me.
chez wrote:
I've done my share of processing film. Once the thrill is gone...it becomes drudgery, for me.
That's true of every human activity. I'm grateful I do not work as a photographer as I surely would loathe doing that on my own time. Burnout is so easy to achieve in the world today.
chez wrote:
The scanning part just adds to that drudgery. Once I have a digital image, my creative passion awakes...but all steps leading to a digital image is drudgery. My view would be different if I did prints in a darkroom, but I don't.
I'd send out the film to be developed and scanned, but the cost is too much and the quality is lacking. I put up with this drudgery because I love the look of b&w medium and large format film.
I send my film out for scanning, because I just dont want to buy the equipment here in China. It's very frustrating not having the whole process in my hands, but I have to live with it this way for now. A Plustek 120 scanner is $1000 more than in the US and I'm not willing to pay that premium. Luckily I found a lab that provides very good scans. I just have to wait 7 days or so to seek the results of my work.
chez wrote:
Photography is mainly a hobby for me even though I do make money from it. I find developing and scanning lacks creative vision for me
There's enormous creative potential in developing. Something like 50 or more developers for monochrome film to choose from plus all kinds of process variables makes your output almost unlimited. However, you have to want to play that game to get any results.
chez wrote:
whereas processing, printing and framing is where my vision comes alive. I have a limited amount of time I can spend on my hobby and I'd rather not spend it smelling chemicals or watching a scanner slowly process my negative...that does not stimulate me.
Kodak HC-110 (dilution E which is 98% water), citric acid stop bath, and Ilford Rapid fixer, about as odorless as you can possibly get. I develop my film in my house, near my living room and you cannot smell any chemicals outside the bathroom. None.
chez wrote:
To each his own I guess.
Yes, that should be a given, but however is sorely lacking at most photography forums, including FM these days.
