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Z_man wrote:
And what gives you the right to set a "rule" prohibiting parents "from shooting within the fence line?" I assume you are shooting at a public facility where I, as a parent, have every right to shoot whereever I can, inside or outside the fence line. I am not sure how you can prevent anyone from selling whatever they want. If I want to sell another parent a 5x7 for my printing cost, what are you going to do to stop me?
Your "rules" are unenforceable.
Yeah clearly a troll, but others will read this thread, and it's worth responding for their benefit.
They may not be HIS rules - they may be set by the League. And, furthermore, what gives him the right?: how about working for months, if not years, to obtain the contract to cover the League - agreeing to share revenue with the League; making numerous presentations at League meetings; negotiations with League officials; paying other shooters on "spec" (hope) that you will make sales to allow you to adequately cover all games and all kids so nobody is complaining that you didn't get any good shots of their kid?
How about the fact that some of these photographers are doing their JOB - this is how they make a living?
Would you think it OK ito stand right next to the class photographer when school portraits were being taken, with your camera and a pocket wizard to poach the strobe lights, the backgrounds, all the other set-up equipment the official photographer paid for and learned how to use, and then selling or even giving away the photographs to other parents?
The classic follow-up question posed here is "do people wander off the street into your place of work, offering to do your job for free, using your company's resources (office space, equipment, etc) and getting in your way?"
Scott is right: without rules like this you'd have parents and other kids wandering all over the field, getting in the way of players and putting themselves at risk and more importantly, putting the players at risk. Spectators belong in the stands, not on the field. Lee is also on track with saying, especially as the levels go up, the sidelines, inside the fence lines, baselines at basketball courts, etc, are no place for people who don't know what they're doing.
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I am covered by a liability policy I pay for, which protects me, the League and more importantly, the kids, in case something bad happens. Plus, I (and the other pro's on the board) have been doing this a while and know where to go and not to go, what to look out for, and how to anticipate problems before they happen. How many DWC's can claim all of these things?
I was working a 9 year-old baseball game earlier this Spring, and there were two DWC's taking photos between the first base dugout and the foul line and two more on the third base side, and one of the supposed "coaches" was in the third base coach's box with "pro" gear taking shots of every batter, every base runner, and when his team was in the field, he was literally ON the field, (as in between the base lines) shooting fielders. This same game, one of the Mom's was about 15 feet away from the plate, standing about 5 feet outside of the foul line, snapping her P&S, taking shots of batters. This is absurd, and dangerous. She was almost run into a couple of times by runners 'cuz she had her eyes trained on the LCD and didn't realize she was in the way.
This was the worse case I have seen, but by no means the only instance of people being where they didn't belong.
Paul, yep, action sales are down, but they're not dead, at least not where I've been working. We have seen a sales decrease that undoubtedly comes from the economy, but we've also had some bad weather which has reduced the number of teams covered and in some case, reduced the number of images of the teams we did cover.
Edited by dmwierz on Jun 13, 2008 at 08:19 PM GMT
Edited on Jun 13, 2008 at 09:19 AM
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