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p.666 #1 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


A few years back Jon started a thread called Aviation, Automobiles and Art, the last post on that thread was a "check in" post by Jon about 4 months ago. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1566720/0

I made a post about his passing, I thought it appropriate to also let anyone who followed or discovered his thread (in the future) know about his passing. If anyone decides to post a remembrance/condolence post it may be appropriate to post it on both this thread and his. I would imagine at some point his family will read his thread, and it would probably be easier for them to find a remembrance post there rather than here.




Feb 08, 2022 at 01:58 PM
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p.666 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Although a bit cluttered this photo was made with Jon in 2010 when we visited Jim and went to the Alliance airshow together.
I'm still lost for words.

Reminds me of some text that was printed on a camper van that I came across when on holiday.

Die with Memories not dreams, and Jon was certainly someone with memories.

P51D Fragile but Agile flown by the Horseman Comanche Fighters Eagle Rock Texas.







Feb 08, 2022 at 02:52 PM
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p.666 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Sad news about Jon, good news that he is on to greener pastures, praying for those he left behind. He was a talented guy for sure!

I saw the news about Jay, we chat on the side of FB occasionally, I've met him a few times. Praying that the doctors can give him a new lease on life. He is a great talent!

Sad news all the way around.

Z



Feb 08, 2022 at 03:32 PM
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p.666 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Sorry to hear about all these, Jim. I must admit I don't recall seeing Jon's posts much. But I do remember Jay, what a phenomenal aviation photographer!


Feb 08, 2022 at 06:09 PM
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p.666 #5 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


When I read Jay's post on Facebook last evening I decided that news like that deserves more personal so I rang him up this afternoon and we had a nice long talk. His attitude is great.


Feb 08, 2022 at 10:22 PM
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p.666 #6 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I am also saddened to hear about Jon's passing and Jay's illness. Jon posted somewhere else on FM a couple of months ago and I had reached out.

I don't do Facebook either, so I haven't kept up with Jay's doings or Steve Zimmerman for that matter. I always thought of them as a pair.

J-A, Jon was definitely with us at Red Flag, that's when I had the pleasure of meeting so many folks here.

Jon (on the right for folks that didn't know him) and Rodolfo between the runways at Nellis in March of 2010:



Mark



Feb 08, 2022 at 11:09 PM
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p.666 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Jim,

Thank you for keeping us informed, even if it is sad news. Sympathy to the MA2A family; seems we all have memories and stories of Jay and Jon. MA2A has brought so many together that would never had met without it; it is a great gift. I too have many "Jon" stories as we shared many conversations over the years. Little bit of a brothership, we have walk some similar roads over the years. Jay, I only knew his photography. Prays out to all, and will be saying some special ones for the families.

Clara and I talked just the other night about how the coming years will be some tough ones. As we move into our 60's we will loose more family and friends. Even now a brother-in-law is fighting pancreatic cancer, a good friend in MN has brain cancer and the best man at our wedding is with Dementia.

We can't change any of it, just show our character and Christianity with how we face this. And keep shooting!!!! The gift our photography brings to everyone has immense power to heal; in being able to capture those moments we share as family/friends in a format that can be shared forever is more valuable than you know. Saw it first hand, last year at Clara's moms celebration of life (93 good years) there were photo albums out all over; 70% of the photos from the last 20 years were mine. I don't need for anyone to know who took them, that they took family back to those good times and memories is all that is important. That is the gift.

Take care,
Dan



Feb 09, 2022 at 08:27 AM
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p.666 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Well said Guys! Yes, there was a line from some movie, "Growing old isn't for the faint of heart.....", and there is a lot of truth in that! Going back to Mark's thoughts about how challenging it is right now to navigate our daily lives given all that is going on in the world, I think our age contributes to that as well. We've lived enough of life to experience it's brutality first hand, and the optimism and invisibility of youth finds itself in the rear view mirror more and more. My Dear Gram, one of the most can-do, optimistic people I ever knew would say "Oh Honey, it ain't what you like that you get the most of in life.......!" Truer words were never spoken. I think our Brother Tony would chime in and say that the key to dealing with it and maintaining some degree of mental health is to realize that life is along way from perfect, a lot of hopes and dreams are not realized, bad stuff happens, just focus on faith, family, friends and the good things that have happened. Find the subtle blessings in each of these very challenging days, be grateful and put one foot in front of the other.

I've said it many times, Mustang Air to Air really isn't about photography, it's about friends, many of whom have never laid eyes on one another, it's about support and for those of us who have been fortunate enough to spend time together in person, well that's just the icing on the cake. This is a solid group of people, most of whom I would trust to the wire, we've proven over and over that we genuinely care about one another and I appreciate all of you. I hope and pray that today, and every day, there are many subtle blessings that find their way into each your lives, and that God's protection washes over you.



Feb 09, 2022 at 10:16 AM
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p.666 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


This is all shittty news and so sorry to hear about Jon and Jay, especially Jon because I knew him.
This little thing you started some 12 years ago this March 5th. ( ISAP Red Flag, 3/5/2010 ) Jim has made one big family with all of us...Thank you-
Had a blast as I'm sure we all did at Red Flag.
Got to hang out one night with Jon and his wife and had some much fun till early morning.
Makes us older one's appreciate life even more and good health at that.
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A little snippit from Jon on Oct 14th, 2008...
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Hi Rusty,
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Fortunately with all the wind and jet wash, our groans as we raised the big glass to the vertical for the thousandth time weren't audible.
JW.
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Funny thing about sound waves - they spread but don't totally dissipate. So we've been hearing echos of our groans down here in Georgia carried along by the wind - a day and a half later! They were that loud!!!

It was so much fun shooting from the runways and out between them - but best of all that we could enjoy each others company without having to fill up the time with a lot of empty chatter. I read a book once that said that was the difference between most men and most women. Women need face to face conversation and fill up their time together talking about everything - while men are generally happy to fish, hunt, watch TV... or shoot photography, with a few grunts and groans and little else to fill up the space and feel like we've had a good day. The lesson is - when you're around your women, listen intently and respond with words and sentences... and women, when you're around your man - enjoy the silence and know you don't have to talk as much for your man to feel good about the experience.

That said - working together as a team or in each others' space - is sort of a discipline. You don't want to step on each others thought process as they plan their next series, or stand in their way while they execute it. Always having to be conscious of what you say, how much you're talking and where you're standing is nearly as difficult as getting your own shots, dealing with settings, controlling the buffeting the wind is doing to the glass and trying to keep the plane centered in the viewfinder. Its all part of the same package.

Case in point - on Saturday while shooting with Rob and Glenn, a couple of little kids came up and wanted to stand in front of me (as i had cleared a gap to allow panning with the 500) Their mom apologized for them crowding in - but I told her it was OK. Good kids, and they wanted to see - so why not? I felt bad though that on a low pass - my 500 hit a couple of speed bumps at show center - which turned out to be their heads. They were OK - but I felt bad for them that i was so into my own world that I forgot to be considerate of them.

Long story short - moral of the lesson and all that - working with anyone and especially with Jim - who is actually "working" - be aware of where you stand and how much you say and keep it all to a minimum. There is always time later to ask your 50 questions. If you don't get them answered now - that's fine - you will almost certainly get another opportunity to ask again next time and by being considerate - you will likely get a next time.
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Remembering some of the names and long lost names...
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BA31Driver, FLORIDAG8R, dolfo, Rusty1, bobl, mmniemi, MustangsX2, waterflyboy22, blueangel_78, MMcGrath, Slug69, Rodolfo Paiz, Chris Luvara, Colin Giersberg, XHawkeye, Tim Adams, Leo Hursh, Bryan Martin, carrg1954, Donald Gray, richhrly, and yes, even Tim Ashton and Tentacle. I know there are more but this sums it up for now.
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Jim it was so much fun out there with you that I don't know if I said thanks for a great three days... and dBear says thanks for giving me the ride back to her cousin's little hobbit house on the edge of town. You went way beyond hospitable - thanks my friend!
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RIP Jon. 😥



Feb 09, 2022 at 10:19 AM
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p.666 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Not wanting to be the bearer of sad news but after checking some of the former members of this amazing piece of the Internet.

I saw that bobl also known as Bob Ledbetter past away 17th of march last year, he went peacefully to meet his maker.
Also met Bob in Vegas in 2010.
I know it's part of life but it's still a shock.

I'm off to bed still dealing with the covid aftermath.
I'm getting a visit tomorrow, at work by a employment expert and someone from human resources to talk about my future with the company i work for.

Maybe I'm going to work at the office and sometime's outside or offside on the truck.
so it will be an exciting day exciting being a bit stressful......

J.A.



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Jan-Arie, I hope your visit tomorrow has a good result for you. Stay away from stress!


Feb 09, 2022 at 04:34 PM
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Good luck tomorrow Jan-Arie. Get some rest.

Thanks for letting is know about Bob Ledbetter. I remember talking with him quite a bit one of those nights we wandered around Vegas. I probably have a photo but not on this work PC.

Mark



Feb 09, 2022 at 06:12 PM
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Bob was a devoted Christian, great guy, had a voice that was made for radio. Sorry to learn of his passing.


Feb 09, 2022 at 09:57 PM
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Dam, sorry to hear as well, he was a nice old guy and being from Oregon made him even better !
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Hang in there Jan-Arie, I'm dealing with the same thing here, covid, osha, had to let a guy go that had been here a long time, employees having other personal issues other than covid...I hear ya on the stress. On top of that, can't find anyone that wants to work anymore around here. They can beg for money on a corner all day long with their dog, cell phone and smoking but can't handle a job. The thought of even hiring someone that wants to work let alone someone who wants to figure things out and a be go getter is pretty much a thing of the past I think. It's sad.



Feb 10, 2022 at 09:13 AM
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Bill Gass wrote:
Dam, sorry to hear as well, he was a nice old guy and being from Oregon made him even better !
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Hang in there Jan-Arie, I'm dealing with the same thing here, covid, osha, had to let a guy go that had been here a long time, employees having other personal issues other than covid...I hear ya on the stress. On top of that, can't find anyone that wants to work anymore around here. They can beg for money on a corner all day long with their dog, cell phone and smoking but can't handle a job. The thought
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Bill, this is not good news for our country. I am isolated from the working world by living a retired life in cozy Central Texas. (I consider shooting high school and college sports for the local newspapers a hobby.) We don't eat out much or shop in stores. I do the grocery shopping (an old habit I love) and I do see longer wait times at the deli and fish market, (fresh beef is too expensive for us). I assume this is due to the employment problem as they do have "We're Hiring" signs in the area.

I don't even know how to change the attitudes, or, 'new normal for our culture' you have described. Guess it is good to be an old guy who doesn't have long to deal with the lasting effects of the new normal.

Ray



Feb 10, 2022 at 09:37 AM
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The world is upside down for sure....the Canadians are acting more like Americans than Americans!


Feb 10, 2022 at 11:34 AM
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BTW, my 100-400 II is winging it's way to it's new owner in New Hampshire. Now I need to find a place for one 5DSR, lowered the price to $800 so it should be gone pretty quickly, given it comes with a battery grip and a 250 buck RRS angle plate.


Feb 10, 2022 at 11:37 AM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
BTW, my 100-400 II is winging it's way to it's new owner in New Hampshire. Now I need to find a place for one 5DSR, lowered the price to $800 so it should be gone pretty quickly, given it comes with a battery grip and a 250 buck RRS angle plate.

Wish it were the 90D.



Feb 10, 2022 at 11:55 AM
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Ray Swindle wrote:
Bill, this is not good news for our country. I am isolated from the working world by living a retired life in cozy Central Texas. (I consider shooting high school and college sports for the local newspapers a hobby.) We don't eat out much or shop in stores. I do the grocery shopping (an old habit I love) and I do see longer wait times at the deli and fish market, (fresh beef is too expensive for us). I assume this is due to the employment problem as they do have "We're Hiring" signs in the area.

I don't even
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Ray,
Enjoy your solitude and peacefulness. Times are getting bad, the hamburger joints are even paying good money.
I mean like every store has a help wanted sign on it.
Love a good fresh steak and crab, go Costco. . Will be taking the boat to the coast in a few months for more of that fresh fish, can't beat it.
It's depressing as well to see the writing and spelling on the applications and resumes I get. These boys now a days better buck up and get to work or things are gonna go south very quickly.




Feb 10, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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We are so rural we don't have a Costco.😀


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